Israeli Airstrikes in Syria Act of unprovoked WAR!

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  1. moon

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    You haven't posted a ' fact ' yet. You've managed a great deal of posturing, much plagiarised rhetoric, hasbara trumpeting, tirades of trolling and pompous picayunery but facts ? Facts are an existential threat to Zionism. Why on earth would you want to post any of those ?
     
  2. DrewBedson

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    I posted this but you couldn't handle it and then made up some stupid rule stating that when somebody who actually made something explains what they meant, it doesn't mean that at all but rather what you say it does.

    In other words, when you are presented with 'facts' you fall to pieces so, no wonder you gloss over them out of hand.:roflol:
     
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    Inarticulate posturing accompanied by an emoticon of a small fat yellow insect in its death throes hardly forms an adequate rejection of my suggestion. Still, that's the accepted norm.
     
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    This might surprise you but those were Russian weapons that were being taken into Lebanon, and if there is anything Russia wouldn't want is its advanced weaponry getting into the hands of Hezbollah and by extension Iran. Russia couldn't do anything about it without going against its policies, so last week a Russian ship just happened to dock at Haifa. They know well Israel's security concerns, so they no doubt dropped the info and gave them a nod and a wink. :wink:
     
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    Thats the problem, here is the reality;

    The current atmosphere is much as its ever been.

    My avatar is entirely inoffensive to anyone. Nor would I consider you flying the Israeli flag offensive.

    And while im an anti-zionist, my posting history is one of for the most part entirely reasonable defence of Palestinian, pro jewish and arab positions. Ive done more arguing against those obstensibly on my side than you will ever do on these forums against those obstensibly on yours. As long as that continues, there is a large moral gap between us, from which is clearly seen that I hold the moral high ground. If you wish to discuss this in detail Im ready to listen to your arguments.
     
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    I hope you stick around.
     
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    At the very least, the world owes it to the hero, Vanunu.
     
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    The Holocaust, Biblical provenance, Jewish bankers, the Zionist lobby, UN declarations, the Rothschild loan, and appeasement treaties are all red herrings. A Jewish homeland was set up after World War I because the British of that generation, the Winston Churchill generation, knew history and predicted correctly that a new jihad for world domination would plague the West again. So they intended to use Israel as a decoy. A different British generation, those who had appeased Hitler, tried to appease the Muslims by blocking immigration to Israel and refusing its independence. But the Israelis defeated both the British and the neighboring Muslim beast that tried to swallow up the Jewish homeland.

    The decoy idea worked out just as the brilliant and prescient Churchills had hoped. For forty years, the jihadists were sidetracked into wasting their efforts trying to conquer Israel, which had a world-class military, or at least world-class brains who could easily outsmart the backward Muslims. Osama bin Laden was the first to propose a world-domination strategy that would bypass Israel and attack the infidels directly. Before it is too late, it is time for the West to use its current power to cripple Islam's ability to fight, because we no longer can expect Israel to the only country trying to survive against a relentless attack by bloodthirsty power-hungry religious fanatics. We will not survive if we continue to be led by ignorant, appeasing weaklings and cowards. Just because our leadership is worthless and self-destructive is no reason we should let them drag us down into the pit of Stone Age Islamic slavery. Like Islam, our present ruling class also must be disempowered forever.
     
  9. philxx

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    indeed a brave man ,who paid a price for his honesty and warnings to the world .the Julian Assange of his time!

    don't hear of him much now ,still being held as a political prisoner ,in Israel,must remember him more.
     
  10. philxx

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    Wow ,better out then trying to keep that in ,and some say I rant ?

    Before the Soviet-Afghan War ,OBL and the Jihadists of Al Qaeda,were unknown thanks to the CIA and Ronald Reagan that all changed .As far as israel being the bastion of Freedom and Democracy in a sea of Muslim reaction ,well Palestinian history to that!
     
  11. philxx

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    Its pretty clear who calls the tune as far as the israeli government is concerned and visa World Socialist Web Site[h=2]Published by the International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI)[/h]

    [h=2]US pledges to arm Syrian opposition as new terror bombing hits Damascus[/h][h=5]By Alex Lantier
    1 May 2013[/h]Senior Obama administration officials announced yesterday that the United States will directly arm the Islamist opposition fighting to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. This came as another terror bombing hit the Syrian capital, Damascus, amid a wave of bombings carried out by the US-backed opposition.
    Reports of the shift in US policy to directly arming the so-called rebels followed a White House press conference at which President Barack Obama indicated a determination that Syria had used chemical weapons would lead to war, calling such a finding a “game changer.” Clearly alluding to military intervention, he stated that “as early as last year I asked the Pentagon, our military, our intelligence officials to prepare for me what options might be available.”
    Taking a page from the Bush administration’s lying “weapons of mass destruction” propaganda in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq, Obama is using completely unsubstantiated charges of chemical weapons use by the Assad regime as a pretext for an escalation of the US-orchestrated war for regime-change that has already killed tens of thousands of Syrians and turned a million more into refugees.
    In an article entitled “Obama preparing to send arms to Syrian rebels,” the Washington Post web site quoted administration officials as follows: “We’re clearly on an upward trajectory. We’ve moved over to assistance that has a direct military purpose.” The New York Times posted a similar report under the headline “US Considers Expanding Support for Syrian Rebels by Supplying Guns.”
    Late yesterday, US National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden confirmed that Obama “has directed his national security team to identify additional measures so that we can continue to increase our assistance.”
    US officials also said they would seek to persuade Russian President Vladimir Putin to drop his support for the Assad regime.
    These announcements end Washington’s pretense that it is not itself providing military support to opposition fighters, including the Al Nusra Front, which has pledged loyalty to Al Qaeda, but is only allowing its Middle Eastern allies to do so in its place.
    It is well known that the opposition is led by Al Qaeda elements. The New York Times recently reported, “Rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists…Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.”
    Washington designated the Al Nusra Front a terrorist organization last December, noting that it had already carried out nearly 600 terror bombings in Syria “in which numerous innocent Syrians have been injured and killed.” (See: “Washington discovers terrorists in Syria”).
    US officials did not spell out what further assistance they will provide. However, Syrian opposition forces have in the past requested US anti-tank and surface-to-air missiles. The implications of giving such weapons to Al Qaeda-type forces in the Syrian opposition were underscored by reports yesterday that a Russian civilian airliner flying over Syria was targeted by anti-aircraft fire.
    At his press conference, Obama declared that “we have established international law and international norms that say when you use these kinds of weapons, you have the potential of killing massive numbers of people in the most inhumane way possible.”
    Obama’s invocation of “international law” is cynical and repugnant. His administration is the biggest violator of international law on the planet, its crimes including drone assassinations that have killed thousands in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia; the abduction of alleged terrorists and their transfer to allied regimes and CIA black sites to be tortured; the illegal detention, abuse and torture of alleged terrorists at Guantanamo and other US prisons around the world; and the adoption of a policy of preemptive war, i.e., aggressive war against current or potential rivals of US imperialism.
    Obama is hypocritically invoking international law to justify the escalation of a war that Washington has pursued in large measure through terrorist bombings carried out by its proxy forces in Syria. The operational alliance between the US and Al Qaeda underscores the criminal character of US foreign policy and the political fraud of the so-called “war on terror.”
    In his press conference, Obama proposed to wait before directly invading Syria, citing opposition from US allies in the region. Noting that allegations of Syrian chemical weapons use remained unproven, he added: “when I am making decisions about America’s national security and the potential for taking additional action in response to chemical weapon use, I’ve got to make sure I’ve got the facts.”
    Sections of the US media criticized Obama for not moving more aggressively, braying for an immediate war. Richard Cohen, a liberal columnist at the Washington Post, compared Obama to the “Cowardly Lion in the Wizard of Oz,” writing: “His plan, if it can be called one, is to let events force his hand. He’s issued red lines and virtual ultimatums, so sooner or later he’ll have to do something.”
    Neither Obama nor any member of the White House press corps mentioned the latest terror bombing earlier that day in Damascus, when a powerful car bomb detonated on Martyrs’ Square, killing 14 people and wounding over 70. The blast, which reportedly came at a time of day when the square would be filled with people, shattered storefronts and set cars ablaze. It is feared that the death toll will rise, as many of the wounded are in critical condition.
    Yesterday’s bombing came the day after Syrian Prime Minister Wael al-Halqi narrowly escaped an attempted assassination in Damascus by means of a roadside bomb. Opposition forces claimed five people were killed, including two of al-Halqi’s bodyguards.
    Washington is escalating its proxy war in Syria in defiance of massive public opposition in both the United States and the Middle East. A New York Times /CBS poll published yesterday found that 62 percent of the US public opposes intervention in Syria, with only 25 percent expressing support. Fully 77 percent oppose war with North Korea.
    As for the Syrian people, even the pro-opposition US media has been forced to admit that it is largely hostile to the Islamist opposition. The New York Times noted that opposition “bombings have fueled a growing sense of insecurity that has prompted anger among Damascus residents who blame rebels for attacking civilians.”
    As it fans the flames of sectarian warfare, Washington is setting the stage for a war that could ignite the entire Middle East and be far more destructive and costly than the already deeply unpopular wars launched by the Bush administration. The broader US objective is regime-change in Iran—Syria’s main regional ally—and the establishment of unchallenged US imperialist hegemony over the entire Middle East.
    Already, violence is spilling over from Syria to neighboring Iraq and Lebanon, where the leader of the Shiite organization Hezbollah said that his organization might join the fighting in Syria.
    Hassan Nasrallah said, “Syria has real friends in the region and in the world who will not allow Syria to fall in the hands of America, Israel, or the Takfiris [i.e., ultra-right Sunni Islamists]… What do you imagine would happen in the future if things deteriorate in a way that requires the intervention of the forces of resistance in this battle?”
    Sectarian bloodshed has also spread into neighboring Iraq. On Monday, a wave of car bombings tore through Shiite areas in Baghdad, killing 36 people. Sunni forces tied to the Syrian opposition are fighting the Shiite-led Iraqi government, which is close to the Iranian regime, with hundreds of people killed in battles with security forces since clashes began throughout Iraq last week.


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    Its a tag team action with the Alqada =CIA on the ground with the 'rebels' ,Airstrikes by Israel moving to control airspace over Syria ,All announced by Obama.


    Advanced preparations for intervention into Iran!



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  12. Wizard From Oz

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    Do you have evidence the Lebanese Government didn't give their permission for the jets to enter their airspace. And I hope you were equally outraged at Syrian fighters crossing Lebanese airpsace
     
  13. philxx

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    Obama refuses comment on Israels raid,other then to defend their right to do as they wish when they wish against whoever they wish .

    The act of War invading Lebanese Airspace is now so common place as to not raise any eyebrows ,and the right to us Lebanese ,came about ,When and what is the position of the UN!

    is an act of war to do it ,for every other nation then Israel??

    Imagine the uproar if russia invaded French or German airspace?

    Or Mexico[not likely granted] the USA's?

    Oh but israel is 'special' israel dosen't have to recognise International Law ,Israel is god's own country !

    http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...r4G4BQ&usg=AFQjCNHYgJxzu9Pcy1Qp-Yiv6qzvNmiDsA


    Cant help themselves the murderous Israeli regime,WMD's with a Terroist State of religious fanatics=ISRAEL !

    Humanity's enemy No1!

    US Imperialism's proxy terror State!

    ISRAEL!
     
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    Give him a few days; he's probably taking another vacation again. Maybe when his golf game is over.

    Well, their drug cartels have invaded Texas, Arizona to a lesser degree, and Our Glorious Messiah has hamstrung immigration officials from doing much against them, so at least The Anointed One is being consistent.
     
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    Sorry, couldn't help myself as you seem over your head after I posted the refutation to your contention.:roflol:

    Here's another one for not getting the first and just proving once again in your above post that when out of your depth and presented with facts you gloss over them out of hand.;

    :roflol:
     
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    Israel is like a cop living in a neighborhood of crackheads.
     
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    Israel is the pimp.
     
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    via Jordan is is being reported and this is very bad news for Jordan to allow this
     
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    Obama came to Jordan then Hashemite Abdallah went to Washington no doubt to green light (because that is the way it will be seen now) an Israeli airstrike on Syria using Jordan airspace to attack.

    I'm waiting on Russian response who have their navy there and Turkeys response now they joined Russian Chinese bloc at SCO
     
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    you can just see all the American contractors with dollar signs in their eyes with the British and French behind them lining up for visas for when they step in to rebuild Syria can't you!

    some obviously going to get rich and richer over this

    war and killing is very profitable
     
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    Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister said Israeli airstrike on research facility is a 'DECLARATION OF WAR'

    UN obviously has to agree with that
     
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    40 years and Israelis never worried about Assad regime and chemical weapons.

    Not a word was mentioned about it till now.
     
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    Except they are said to be receiving weapons from Iran via Hizballah. The research center is a cover.
     
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    Proof?
     
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    I'm just going by what some media has said. I'm curious as to the specifics myself.
     

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