What would pro-lifers say if abortion could become moot in the timescale of a single generation and all it would take is a very simple 45 minute procedure that is 100% effective 100% of the time and could be reversed as and when the person was ready to have children. http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/04/ff_vasectomy/ All it would take is a law, much like the one pro-lifers want banning abortions, removing the rights of the male for 45 mins as opposed to ~9 months for a woman. Just think lifers, no more abortions (except in life threatening cases, or fetal disability incompatible with life), no more contraception, no more worries about welfare paying for unwanted children, within a single generation and all us liberals being able to have all the sex we want with whomever we want, whenever we want .. without the worry of pregnancy. Could this be the "golden" answer to both sides of the debate?
No because there are those of us who are against violations of other people's autonomy especially through law. A man's testicles belong to him, he may choose to have them snipped or not; even if it is reversible it should not be forced.
I tend to agree with you, but I'm posting this for the pro-lifers out there who it would seem have no problem with removing people's autonomy when it comes to making abortion illegal, so the question is it more to do with restrictions on just women or are they prepared to do the same for men.
I can tell you. They are NOT prepared to do the same for men. Most Anti-Choicers are misogynists, it has been proven over and over especially in this forum. They're goal is to control women and punish them for having sex. As has been proven they care NOTHING for actual born living breathing children...it is all and only about controlling and punishing women. They refer to men supporting their actual real living breathing children as being "screwed"....showing that they worship men and believe men need not have any personal responsibility, that women are evil for expecting a man to actually care for their own children. They believe men should be able to run free like rutting deer, having all the sex they want, raping not only strangers but their own relatives and the ensuing pregnancies MUST come to term. So tamper with their Precious god, Men? Not going to happen.
No because promiscuity carries far greater risks than mere pregnancy. AIDS kills, and many other STDs cause serious health problems.
So you want people to have STDs and die of AIDS. And here I was thinking you only wanted to kill children.
Just interesting...isn't it, Whaler? A way to end abortion...but it doesn't stamp your sexual morality all over everybody else.....so you raise an objection to it.
Interesting reply, especially as it would be two consenting adults taking any risks involved, there would be no "person" involved who wouldn't be able to give consent.
It actually isn't a way to end abortion at all. Its just another mindless short signted pro abortion post.
You essentially asked if I would condone a practice that would promote people having sex with whomever whenever with no risk of pregnancy. I pointed out that pregnancy is only one risk of promiscuity, and isn't even the most dangerous one. Glad you found it interesting.
But NO Anti-Choicer has ever given a sure fire plan , or any other plan, to end abortions. It's quite short-sighted, not to mention stupid to ignore the fact that whether it was legal or not, abortion has always been around and will continue to be. It's enormously short-sighted to just scream "Make it illegal" with NO explanation, an intelligent one anyway, as to how that law could be enforced.
This is an absolute lie. Abstain from killing your child, that is a sure fire way to end all abortions. I have already explained numerous times how the law could be enforced. Just because you deperately want to claim it can't so you ignore my posts doesn't change the fact that you are lying, again.
No, you only think your "plan" would work....you have never proven it would. But many posters have shown how it wouldn't work...over and over again. Now, have you written you Congressperson and requested they introduce your law???
It isn't up to me. It is up to the would be killers. But once again, deterrence is not the sole reason to make abortion illegal.
No I asked if pro-lifers would support a proven way to end abortions .. the sex with whomever, whenever is just a bonus to all us immoral people. So in reality pro-life isn't really about ending abortions it is about enforcing a minority, restrictive moral viewpoint onto everyone . .abortion is just the ticket pro-lifers ride to get to the true finish.
Care to elaborate on why that is your opinion .. why would you turn down the chance to end almost all abortions in a knowable timeframe, isn't that the pro-life goal? I mean so many of your cohorts call for certain women to be sterilized, which is permanent, at least this procedure can be reversed. Just look at all the "good" things that could result from it. 1. Abortions only when the woman's life is in danger or a fetal disability nonconforming to life. 2. No more men being chased through the courts for maintenance payments. 3. A huge drop in the welfare payments 4. Less children going into care homes 5. No more cases like Gosnell, no need for illegal abortions. Basically the abortion debate would be moot. Why on earth would a pro-lifer stand against that ..... unless the agenda is not really about abortion but something more sinister.
What isn't up to you? Writing your Congressperson? Who else would it be? If deterence isn't the reason for making something illegal what is?
Exactly! It's not the LIFE that's important, it's the WAY of life. They want to use the fear of pregnancy as a motivation for abstinence.
No you haven't.....not ONCE have you explained how you would determine if a woman is pregnant before you accuse her of having an abortion. - - - Updated - - - How many times have we seen "pro-lifers" here basically saying "A woman wants to play...she has to pay"...i.e. she wants to have sex, she has to risk getting pregnant.
It is about different things to different people. Sorry, I cannot dumb it down to fit your ability to comprehend it. For me, it is about making our homicide body of law consistent and logical. Currently it is far from it solely because of legalized abortion. I do not condone promiscuity, but that is a seperate matter as far as I am concerned.
lol dumb it down, just another evasion of things you don't want highlighted concerning your fragile facade of defending the unborn when in reality it is all about enforcing your morality onto others.
Have you noticed how certain posters are conspicuous by their absence .. makes me wonder if their "fight" to speak up for the unborn is nothing more than a facade for their true intent.
