The bad news for "gay rights" is that both countries are "civilized", how you call them. France is "West" and Georgia is pro-US and pro-west, with western marionette president Saakashvilli. So, you can't manipulate anymore by facts, like these counties are outcasts or "backwards", like Arabic countries(1). And, you can't manipulate the fact that people like me, who are, how you label "homophobic bigots" are just "tiny minority"(2). What other prove do you need to see that people are mad at you? France: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22671572 [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovzlpf7aU-c[/video] Look, even French writer commits a suicide in protest of gay-marriage in France: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern...herdral_closed_a fter_pAfeeupcdIAlPBKItNQHsJ Georgia: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/17/georgia-gay-pride-rally-_n_3293652.html [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NErcgqgYeE[/video] Stop forcing us to like you, tolerating you and live around you. We need to have something like Gayland and Striaghtland!. Let us be free from you!
Freedom of speech is a lovely thing is it not? We tolerate your intolerance! I've said it before and I'll say it again - if you want a "straightland" then move somewhere that executes gay people like Iran. Afterall, according to Iran's president "there are no gays in Iran". But don't think you can force your bigotry on the majority who support equal marriage. That's not how democracy works.
It doesn't matter that you may be some real or perceived 'minority'... what matters is whether or not you have the RIGHT to impose your way upon others; in the strictly human sense, you DO NOT have that right. Homosexual people are human beings... just like you are. - - - Updated - - - You are correct!
I am not for extremes and never suggested them. You are suggesting them. Look, these people are fed up, how else they can express that they are UPSET, UPSET, UPSET about people like you? You just don't hear us, refuse to hear us, what else these people are left to do? And how it's bigotry? Majority in the country, USA, where fluoride is fed to people to make them docile?! Where outcome of elections strongly depends on amount of money you have?! Country where 2 totalitarian parties control the country and don't invite others even on debates? Gayland and straightland are going to prove that there is a democracy on the west and everybody is respected. Hey, I remember you, you once kept trying to convince me in these facts, like I am a tiny minority and the countries which don't like gays are Arabic, etc and they are all outcasts and "backwards". Now you sustained a total failure... - - - Updated - - - I've heard this from you many times. You always trying to portray me like I am I think about gays as a human beings. You know what you are missing? You think that gays are the only ones who are human beings. People who don't find your ways right, offensive and unacceptable for themselves are human beings too. We, like you are, have rights what to love and which society to prefer. We don't want to be forced people like you upon us. This is exaclty like you said the strictly human sense and you don't have the right to impose upon us something we don't find right.
Well- as I've said before, TOO ****ING BAD. You don't get to restrict the freedoms of others in a free country, so either get over it or leave, as you will never be happy here.
There was a link already submitted. See post number 1. Just use your mind - in Gayland you can be gay without problems, marry, celebrate your identity and do whatever and I will be free from tolerating all of this nightmare - live with people who have the values, which are different then yours and we too, celebrate our identity and values.
Will there be a Negroland and a Caucasianland also? How about Bigotland and Non-Bigotland? We could have a very nice little Balkanization as every person in the world demands that whatever group they don't want to be associated with be in their own little Swaziland...er...Gayland.....
Are gay people NOT human beings? (What say you?) No, I think the above comment is... 'stupid'. (You aren't serious.) But let's make this distinction: I'm NOT going to seek to persecute them for BEING what they are. And I 'promise' to fight back against those who seek to persecute myself and other homosexuals for BEING what they are. It is that clear/simple. (We all have choices to make.) Sorry, you DON'T get to discriminate against people just because they are homosexual. You are just asking for trouble. Who exactly WANTS to be near/around 'you'? Really, be yourself; but don't think that you can dictate what the freedoms or liberties of others shall be. After all, we have a Constitution to live by. And I think that you misunderstood whatever it is that I actually said. Please, quote and link what I said. You aren't making good sense.
All I'm saying is it's the closest thing to what you desire. Gays generally try and get away from Iran, so there's probably fewer there than anywhere else in the world. And the ones who stay act heterosexual for fear of being hung or stoned to death. So you won't see any gays holding hands or kissing, you won't see any government endorsement of gay rights or same-sex relationships, there will be no gay bars, no pride marches, nothing. You might not agree with killing gay people, but their society is basically a "straight-land" in that there is no open homosexuality whatsoever. People who desire what you desire can simply go there for the closest thing to a society free from gays. It is entirely unreasonable to expect your own society to bend to your will and segregate gays. It's also NEVER going to happen, it's a pipe dream of yours. Try thinking in realistic terms for once. Of course they can express how upset they are - that's how a free and democratic society operates. No one is suggesting they should not be able to do so. What you desire is not democracy however because even the majority of those against SSM would not advocate the forced segregation of homosexuals. I think fewer than 2% of society would support such a radical idea, and I'd say even that estimate is generous. It's not generally bigotry to oppose same-sex marriage, but unfortunately major rallies tend to bring out the extremists. The latest rally in France turned violent because far right/neo nazi groups joined in, which was sad. I personally think the protests were (for the most part) a wonderful expression of democracy and demonstrated just how necessary it is to ensure LGBT people and their relationships have full equality before the law. Wow, and a conspiracy theorist to boot! No surprises there Gayland and straightland aren't going to exist so they aren't going to prove anything. If a theoretical national referendum were held in the US tomorrow, or even on the state level in all 50 states, there is NO WAY a majority would back forcibly segregating homosexuals, shipping them off to a "gayland" and banning them from ever returning home. Not even in Mississippi. So your proposal has NOTHING to do with democracy. You are a tiny minority in the country you live in. You've just admitted that Arabic countries are better suited to your needs, so bloody well go there!! Doesn't of course have to be one that executes gays, many go for life imprisonment. What are you waiting for?
Many of you, when I was taking about "gayland" kept pointing me that I want to uproot people from their homes. So, you want me to get uprooted and live in a culture with different language, customs, etc? Gayland, like state-wise, city-wise or county-wise allows you to keep your connections, culture, language and stay in a gay-free or pro-gay environment. Of course it's your guess. Also, don't forget, some people who support SSM might not want to be around you in the same time. They might just so fed up with you, that they are ready to support whatever, just to be left alone. >forced segregation of homosexuals Right now we have a forced integration. Why it's a democracy? >I think fewer than 2% of society would support such a radical idea You really, really want to convince me that I am some kind of tiny minority. Despite of huge protests. Interesting, when some activists were telling me that majority can't vote away rights of minority, referring to gay. So, if according to you, I am a minority, then how come it's ok to vote away my rights and force me to integrate? I see, if arabic coutries, who don't like gays are "backwards", then one of the major leading countries in Europe is nazi. No surprises there! Great! Now you know, that we are not a tiny minority or "backwards". People who laugh at conspiracy theorists know that there is a conspiracy and this is why they are laughing. Conspiracy always there and it's a major ruling force. I am not going to dismiss the facts about water fluoridation, what makes people more docile and vote for whatever. Re-read about http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-l...-my-mind-what-wrong-about.html#post1062374027 You are bringing this up again, something what I never suggested, like "shipping off" and " banning them from ever returning home". Suggested solution is very democratic and it respects interests of all groups. Telling me lies over and over is not going to change me.
BTW, as you were pointed multiple times, there is a gayland and straightland. I know how hard to memories this kind of things. But I understand you, your strategy. Convincing people that they will never achieve something will make them never achieve that, because they will be so convinced that they will never achieve that and they won't even try... Good manipulation, but I know that, as well as people who are creating Gayland in Spain and Striaghtland in Moldova.
The 'Agenda ' of the gay and lesbian rights movement is to set up what they call ' A gay lesbian queer homeland' as they openly advocate for this 'homeland in America' being a ' county in California' ,have no illusion that after they get 'gay lesbian equality ' of middle class stupidity Rights, that the dismemberment of the USA and all other as they call them ,'hetro-sexist ' nations is not on the agenda.i can only quots their own material don't blame me for the insanely stupid nature of the radical far right-wing middle class character of the gay and lesbian rights movement and their SECTARIAN COMMUNALIST attitudes.
The GBLTIQ advocates for its own form of segregation,its called queer nationalism , http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...5IGYCQ&usg=AFQjCNFmPmlEWqD2MNhqngEJ5guqz6RxFg don't believe me read for your self ,they bring a lot of crap on themselves with their ultra-reactionary sectarian out look of carving up nations for their Homelands ,much the same as the genocide and dispossession of the Palestinian people by the Zionists ,the gay and lesbian community sectarians are just as reactionary and backwards in their thinking! Oh and in this link one must remember of course the central use and reference to "FOLK' by the NAZI Party of Germany circa 1933-45 ,which the gay and lesbian 'FOLK' would have quite happily joined .yep, I am saying the gay and lesbian political movement can be defined scientifically and historically as ULTRA- Right-wing!
Wow, I'm not even sure I should waste my time with this madness Martin... I mean the water flouridisation thing? C'mon....
The Christian way, eh? A surprisingly good quote from a poster on the news article: "You do not need the bible to justify love, but no better tool has been invented to justify hate." Sad but true it seems.
