Egypt's second revolution - June 30 2013 !!

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  1. Ivan88

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    Would Egypt ask Syria to help take out the Saudis once they have neutralized the "Muslim" Brotherhood?
     
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    I took a call this afternoon from an....acquaintance...who is currently monitoring the situation in Egypt. I was told that the Egyptian Military Liaison to CENTCOM had asked CENTCOM how to respond to the Muslim Brotherhood's COUNTER DEMONSTRATION which has members of the Brotherhood and their supporters in sizable numbers staging a counter demonstration right next to a much larger number of Egyptian Demonstrators in Cairo.

    According to my associate...Gen Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has been informed though the Egyptian Military CENTCOM Liaison that the Egyptian Military IS NOT to perform any Military operation that would target the Muslim Brotherhood demonstrators UNLESS....those demonstrators were to attempt to occupy Government Buildings or attempt to act as a PROTECTORATE FORCE that might interfere with the eventual removal from office of Morsi.

    CENTCOM has made it very clear that the American supported and supplied Egyptian Military cannot be seen as the mechanism that would remove Morsi from power or be seen attacking members of the Egyptian Population whatever side they might be on.

    As well...if Morsi refuses to step down from power CENTCOM has already dispatched DIA Special Psychological Op's Units and Advisers to assist the Egyptian Military as a way to use Non-Lethal Force should Morsi hold up in Governmental buildings.

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    DAMN!

    I just took a call.

    Looks like I am going to Egypt.

    I can tell you a few small things that are not an issue to disclose.

    The NSA has intercepted communications between Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhoods Leadership asking that the Muslim Brotherhood Protester that are grouped near the Egyptian Protesters demanding Morsi to step down...to attempt to create an all out Mob War between the two sides.

    The reasoning for this is to portray the Egyptians Crowds demanding Morsi leave office as nothing more than a bunch of THUGS who care not for the laws of Egypt. If the two sides start to brawl Morsi will go on TV and DEMAND that the Egyptian Military do something effectively making it difficult for the Military to remove Morsi if he refuses and fails to step down.

    CENTCOM is dispatching DIA agents as well as Langley is dispatching CIA agents to broker a deal that will have Morsi step down peacefully.

    I was asked if I am needed would I go as it has been my...JOB...for over 3 decades to broker such agreements and I have extensive experience as well so does my team.

    I REALLY...do not want to go right on the 4th weekend! SUCKS!

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. signcutter

    signcutter New Member

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    You think that is funny.... Did you get a load of Obama telling Morsi that a democratically elected government is supposed to represent the people ? .. I dont know how Obama said that with a straight face LOL!!!..... unless of course he only counts votes from the millionaires and up.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    You guy's are going to LOVE this.

    I was just told that Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood have directly asked the Egyptian Military for $500 MILLION DOLLARS in exchange for Morsi to peacefully step down from Leadership.

    It is OBVIOUS who Morsi and the Brotherhood expect to pay this money and the Egyptian Military Leadership and specifically Gen Abdel Fattah al-Sisi are contemplating whether to formally request this money although as of yet all that the Egyptian Military Leadership has done at this point is notify CENTCOM of Morsi's demand.

    Looks like I am going.

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  8. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Let's face it...Egypt goes and elects a Leader that is a professed supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and their ideology...then when this leader goes and attempts to create a strict Islamic State a little at a time....all of Egypt cries FOUL!

    WHAT THE HELL DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ELECTING THIS GUY??!!??

    Now if this leader goes and attempts to break Egyptian Law in attempting to create his and the Brotherhoods vision of a strict Islamic State....well then Egyptians should use the law to remove this leader.

    USE THE LAW! NOT THE RULE OF THE MOB!

    Egypt and it's people look like a Freekin' JOKE to the rest of the world as a few months in to a new government and already everything has gone to S#!%!

    And to make matters worse...I might have to go to this region of the world....AGAIN....to Babysit.

    And some people here were wondering why I was acting so %#$@#$ OFF talking about having to get stuck in the Middle East for months on end dealing with a bunch of whining Brats!

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. dudeman

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    Let's see if it works before the principle is applied to the current "Forrest Gump in charge".
     
  10. wgabrie

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    AboveAlpha, keep your security clearance to yourself. We have enough Snowdens. And, the last person I spoke to, on a web forum, who admitted they were operating in an official capacity for the USA and heading to the middle east was someone going to the Libyan embassy, that was somewhat before the 9/11 anniversary attack.

    Also, whoa you're our envoy to the region? With that much frustration? Have you considered that your frustration may be a sign for you to consider retirement?

    I'm sorry, I don't want to be eating into you when you're down. I know you're under a lot of stress, and I don't want to add to it. But, I just want things to work out, you know? For the USA. So, what the heck? Why are you talking pompously? And then, you act like you're the only adult in the region, but you come across as the only one without a stress relief technique.
     
  11. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!

    You know...the reason I am posting is because posting was recommended to me as a way to RELIEVE STRESS! LOL!

    I WOULD NEVER...post something that is Classified as well what I have posted about the NSA listening in on MORSI...well they WANT it to be known this guy is asking for money as Morsi and his buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood are not the sharpest tools in the box! LOL!

    I HATE...and I mean absolutely HATE going to some places in the Middle East where I have to practically play secret agent just to drink a BEER! Just TRY to live in such a place for months on end. IT SUCKS!

    But what really frosts my ass is having to be in endless meetings with two sides that waste time calling each other names while people are dying and I am getting chapped lips!

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    By the way...I have been TRYING to retire but because the person who is asking me to do a...JOB...is someone I owe...and this debt I think will be paid off...FINALLY...after this last time....I really can't say no.

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    Live stream, from egypt.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/world/meast/egypt-protests/index.html
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    Oh good, I was worried that you'd take my post hard but you seem okay, even chipper. :smile:
     
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    I guess you are EVE online player ;)
     
  17. AboveAlpha

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    I am not a person that brings any emotional baggage with me when I am doing a...JOB.

    You have to leave stuff like that behind as any kind of distraction be it emotional or other can easily make a person miss things that are important to notice to get the JOB done.

    So...I blow off that steam here. LOL!

    It just blows my mind how some people here who state they are either from these places I might go or such people state they KNOW what is really going on really don't have a clue.

    As example...some here have sung the praises that their beloved military will once again throw out a U.S. Puppet Egyptian Leader...LOL!

    They don't seem to recall that THEY were the ones who ELECTED THIS LEADER! LOL!

    As well...their beloved military that does not crush the uprising has been directed to not do so by orders from CENTCOM. But hey...whatever makes them feel good.

    In the mean time...if I have to go...I will have to get multiple SHOTS to deal with the various Bacteria and Virus specific to this region so I don't end up puking and on the toilet for a week.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The Egyptian people have a major problem, that they have been organized (by politics, propaganda, fear, provocation) The top of power (elite and military) are now going to side with the masses, they still have their (imperialistic) mass media and are going to organize the masses behind a grand leader. MB and Morsi will be gone, the next popular leader will brought forward. The Egyptian people are going to loose their freedom over the next years, Egypt will become a real dictatorship one day. Puppets Mubarak and Morsi were there to cause this revolutionary process, next a real dictator can brought forward and organize a majority of the masses, and rule over Egypt with an iron fist (if the Egyptian people are going to stand as one behind this new leader) So they have to open their eyes as soon as possible.
     
  19. Tommy Palven

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    I'm a Blame America Firster. It seems reasonable given the US track record, so it seems probable to me that the probelm with Morsi is that he not a US puppet.
    Like when Bush and Rice went to Palestine and were heralding the elections there, but when Hamas won, the US encouraged the PA when it refused to let the elected Hamas representatives take their seats in the new parliament. The US encouraged what was essentially a coup in the West Bank while talking about democracy. I'd be very surprised if the CIA isn't up to its eyeballs in orchestrating this coup against Morsi.
     
  20. AboveAlpha

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    Uhhh....about a MILLION PLUS Egyptians standing in protest along with about 88 Million other Egyptians watching on TV would disagree with you. LOL!

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  21. Tommy Palven

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    Actually, as one of the few people who believe in total emancipation and individual sovereignty, about 7 billion people disagree with me.
     
  22. AboveAlpha

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    Here is the thing about such concepts.

    I am a person that has a deep need to feel FREE.

    I express and enjoy such freedom by riding across the American countryside on a Harley as well as I enjoy living in the United States.

    Still...as free as I might feel or need or think I am...as long as a person NEEDS other people or needs such things as ROADS to be able to drive my Harley on to get this feeling of freedom...one is never truly free nor would one ever want to be free to such an extent.

    As long as a person or people have a need for a government or state or local police to protect them or need roads and fresh water and sewers and electric lines and telephone...etc....TOTAL EMANCIPATION AND INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY ARE BUT A FANTASY.

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  23. Mayerling

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    You missed my point Abu iff Gamal had been a military man like his father he would have had no issue with the military
     
  24. Tommy Palven

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    You may be right, that individual sovereignty is impossible to attain, however, a number of people think tht it's worth giving it a try. Milton Friedman's son, Professor David Friedman wrote a book some time ago called The Machinery of Freedom, and more recently Prof. Butler Shaffer wrote Boundaries of Order. They and a few other people have proposed voluntary systems where we could have roads and bridges, clean air and water, and so on, without having professional politicians and bureaucrats.
     
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    This is not a new revaluation to those of us who live here.
     

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