White Slavery in the U.S.

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Whites were also enslaved in the U.S. and other parts of the world.

Poll closed Jul 10, 2013.
  1. True

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  3. How dare you suggest this, you racist scumbag

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  1. Charles Nicholson

    Charles Nicholson New Member

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    I don't just mean indentured servants - I mean real, honest-to-goodness slaves, like the ones we hear about from our educators from the first grade up to graduate school.
    Let me know what you think, and be honest - don't look this up beforehand. It is, after all, something every man, woman, and child should know about the US and the world.
     
  2. Charles Nicholson

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    The correct answer is "true." Most of these slaves - at least in the U.S. - were Irish by birth.
    The only reason few people know or admit to this is because it would unite us. The powers that be don't want unity - they want to "divide and conquer" as they do so well. That's the reason we have this corrupt two-party system in which the liberties of citizens always lose. That's the reason blacks and whites are pitted against each other, and why the rich are blamed for the mistakes of others.

    We've all been hoodwinked. Willingly. If you're not angry, keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
     
  3. KSigMason

    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You can't talk about this! This doesn't support the Left's agenda.
     
  4. ThirdTerm

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    Indentured servitude was a method of increasing the number of colonists in addition to voluntary migration and convicts were also forcefully shipped out to American colonies before America's independence for this purpose. Indentured servitude wasn't slavery per se and there were laws to protect some of their rights and they were freed after five years of service and they went on to become small landowners or part of the colonial elite after receiving "freedom dues" (i.e. 50 acres of land, money, clothes). It was a typical way for working-class Englishmen to start a new life in the New World because they could not afford to pay their passage and indentured servants made up around 60% of the total English emigration to America prior to the American Revolution. On the surface, indentured servitude seemed like a terrific way for the English poor to make their way to prosperity in a new land but beneath the surface, this was not often the case.

     
  5. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    In modern times, I believe we should blame the right for requiring an Iron Age work ethic without a morals test, but a willingness to drug test the least wealthy, potential labor market participants.
     
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    >"RAN away from the Subscriber's House in King George County, the latter End of April last, a white Irish Servant Man named John Lee, he is by Trade a Joyner, a short thick well-set Fellow, fresh Colour'd, pitted with the Small Pox, with a Scar in his Forehead, speaks through the Nose, and has the Brogue in his Speech, and stoops forward as he walks: He was pursued to Susquehannah Ferry, where he pawn'd his Rule for his Passage; The Horse he took with him, was seiz'd near the Ferry; it is suppos'd he was harbour'd by some of the Irish Inhabitants in these Parts, and is since gone to New-York, or to Mr. Skeler's Works; he chang'd his Name to George Falmouth. Any Person that will apprehend the said Servant, and convey him to my house in King George County, in the Colony of Virginia, shall be paid by me the Subscriber, upon the Delivery of him, Twenty Pounds Current Money, or if they will apprehend and secure him in some Public Goal, and give me immediate Notice, they shall have Ten Pounds Current Money of Virginia Reward: He is an Irish Papist. Also a Mulatto Fellow, named Watt, ran away some Time before Christmas last; he is middle-siz'd, with some dark Spots in his Face; he was taken in Execution by Mr. Henry Power, as part of the Estate of Matthew Anderson, of Hanover County, and bought on Account of the Subscriber, by Mr. Augustine Graham: He is conceal'd by his late sister, or some other ill designing Person in the said County. I do hereby declare, if any Person entertains the said Slave, that I will prosecute them with the utmost Severity, unless they immediately deliver him up, to be sent from Constable to Constable, to me. And whereas, some Time before Christmas, I wrote a Letter by my Servant, that I sent in Pursuit of the said Slave, to Matthew Anderson, wherein I did engage to pay Ten Pounds for a white Servant Man, to be bought by the said Matthew Anderson, on my proper Account, and for the Use of the said Matthew Anderson, during the Time he continued to deserve the Favour at my Hands, provided he delivered up the said Slave Watt, to my Servant, which he refused to do, pretending that he knew nothing of him. I therefore give public Notice, that I will not pay the abovesaid Sum, on the said Matthew Anderson's Account. Charles Carter."< http://www2.vcdh.virginia.edu/xslt/...ocs/slavery/ads/display_ad.xsl&ad=v1737030006
     
  7. Unifier

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    There were also free blacks in America that owned black slaves. Amazing how they don't teach us about that in school either.

    Do you ever wonder how different society would be if people knew the whole truth about history instead of just the select parts that are supposed to make us feel bad?
     
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    If one is considered chattel or subject to being beaten, branded or killed is that slave enough? Does being inherited or sold or loaned make one less a slave? Slavery is slavery is slavery is slavery.
     
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    To build on the OP's point, when the Ku Klux Klan used to be active in the northwest corner of Montana where I live they were primarily opposed to, prejudiced against, and inclined to attack Ukrainian-American immigrants. It is rather tragic that folks keep finding out-groups to feel threatened by, stereotype, discriminate against, and otherwise hold in low regard. There was a time when nativists (e.g. Ben Franklin) argued against German immigration for reasons very similar to those people present against Latinos - especially those of Mexican nationality - today. The Irish and Chinese icertainly faced their share of troubles, as did folks of many other backgrounds. A lot of Americans were once wary of Jews and did not want them to build synagogues, not at all unlike how many feel about Muslims and having mosques or other symbols or meeting places in their communities today.

    Alas, many folk are good at rationalizing often ignorant, prejudiced, us vs. them attitudes toward anyone who seems different.
     
  10. danielpalos

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    Our Founding Fathers were wise enough to Ordain and Establish our temporal and secular morals and legal ethics, and enumerated them in our supreme law of the land. What is not covered by our Constitution and Ten Amendments?
     
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    i cannot vote because i dont know if it is true
     
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    I happen to know that the Saugus Iron Works was staffed by scottish slaves, not indentured servants, but slaves captured in battle and bound to slavery for life.
    However the management converted their bondage to indentured servitude, if the Iron works failed, the conversion wouldn't hold up, as the slaves were collateral that would be taken by creditors, if the mill succeeded, then the conversion would become legal, and the slaves would gain their freedom after 7 years.
    The Iron works that had been losing money became profitable as productivity went up, and the freed slaves moved on to Pennsylvania, Andrew Carnegie, the steel magnate was the descendant of one of these slaves.
     
  13. danielpalos

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    If only, we could find nice politicians of morals, especially in modern times.
     
  14. dudeman

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    Whites are currently enslaved by the Affordable Care Act. You will be required to buy health insurance if you are white. You will get a "Medicaid waiver" if you are hispanic or black. Quit work now. It is a waste of time. There is no opportunity for advancement in the USA, currently.
     
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    If only, we could find nice politicians of morals who are willing to bear true witness to a federal doctrine regarding employment at will and State at-will employment laws.
     
  16. dudeman

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    If only, we had a NON-RACIST president in the USA that would have advocated UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.
     
  17. danielpalos

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    Maybe we should enjoin our President to faithfully execute a federal doctrine regarding employment at will and insist States follow that moral example.
     
  18. dudeman

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    Negatory. Let's all quit work to ensure that the racism imposed upon the USA called the "Affordable Care Act" fails.
     
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    I believe our civil obligation ends with official poverty elimination. After all, what excuse could Persons have for staying poor if they can no longer claim to be in (official) poverty.
     
  20. dudeman

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    And that MIGHT happen with UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE. Why support a racist moron who wants to racially discriminate against whites to steal their wealth through taxation? Are your seriously debating Obama's racism? I can give you a lot of examples upon request.
     
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    How would "racism" be a factor if we can enjoin our elected representatives to bear true witness to our own laws?
     
  22. dudeman

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    Why not ask that question to the current Congress? Not the one that was intimidated and coerced (i.e. Mary Landrieu, LA and Ben Nelson, NE) into submission.
     
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    The point is that our original Constitution and Bill of Rights are both gender and race neutral.
     
  24. dudeman

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    And when YOU, Daniel Palos, coordinate the academic test competition between a low-life like me and "President" Obama, and he actually defeats me in ANY academic test (let alone tests about the Constitution), I might actually consider this as real. I've stated before, $100 K. Dunce boy has wasted $10 million dollars in travel expenses at USA tax dollar expense to earn $90 K in campaign contributions in the past. I can even drive to D.C.
     
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    Yes, but it was called peonage.

    and BTW, despite what people commonly think, about a quarter of those lynched in the US were white as well.
     

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