Do you support Polygamy?

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Do you support Polygamy?

  1. Yes, I support it and it should be legalized

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  2. Yes, I support it but not as a form of marriage

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  3. No, I don't support it and it should not be legalized

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  4. No, I don't support it but I don't care if it's legalized

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  1. TM2

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    The homosexual cause is not the true socialist cause. It is a bourgeois distraction from economic disparity.
     
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    I am personally a believer in Judeo- Christian moral structure. Polygamy was practiced in early Biblical times and expressly said to be a wrong practice. So was homosexuality. Nothing is said about interracial marriage. The homosexual cause seeks to make itself an important civil issue. It isn't. Economic coercion is. I know a number of "leftists" involved with the cause. I don't hate them and I don't despise them. However, I think they are wrong on the issue and furthermore I think the issue is a bourgeois distraction from addressing real social ills. Gay people's right to marry (what ever one thinks about it) is substantially less important than the rights of the truly oppressed working class.
     
  3. mikezila

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    you left out the logical choice-no one should get married ever.
     
  4. mikezila

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    how big is your heart and how many in-laws can you tolerate?
     
  5. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    Legalize polygamy and you could include "wives" in wealth charts such as this:

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  6. Blackrook

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    Wife are chattel in polygamous societies, as can be seen in the Muslim world and among the fundamentalist Mormons.

    And its bad for young men too. The fundamentalist Mormons dump off their extra young men in Georgetown, Utah, leaving them with nothing and no family to go home to.

    The young men have no freedom to leave their communities. And the leader of the community can take wives away from men arbitrarily and reassign them to other men. It is a mockery of marriage.
     
  7. Crawdadr

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    As long as tax breaks are restricted to two adults in the contract the government should not care. In the instance of 10k parents and the child being adopted then the courts will do what they always do and that is doing whats best for the child.

    polygamy laws are a cultural bias that does not serve a positive purpose.
     
  8. Crawdadr

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    Just because polygamy is alowed does not make this a polygamous society. People still retain their rights and privilages under our laws. Just because gay mariage is alowed does not mean I have to leave my wife and marry a guy.
     
  9. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Source?

    If it wasn't, there would not be so much uproar about it. Obviously it is important, whether you agree or disagree with it.

    Before you can remove the distraction, you will need to convince your fellow workers on what the "real" social ills are. At the moment, they do not appear to agree with you.

    There is no oppressed working class in the US right now. All workers elect their own representatives, and can leave any employer at will. The value of their labor is determined by the market, not arbitrarily by some unelected state bureaucrat, who may or may not have their best interests at heart.
     
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    I'm 100% apathetic but support its legalization because I dislike there being any legislation on anything that doesn't very strictly speaking need it.

    I think it's slightly negative for society though.
     
  11. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    marriage has existed before christianity came along you know, and marriage hasn't always been one man one woman.

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    sexual deviants? Perhaps, it's very common in other cultures and historically. But what does it matter that it's different? are you going after all devating things in society or just marriage? how about freedom, doesn't that sound nice?
     
  12. Daggdag

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    but gay marriage has not passed. States are still allowed to decide whethor or not peopled are allowed to get married, and even strip people of marriage rights if they move to a state where their type of marriage is banned. DOMA allows states to violate the constitution by giving them exeption from the requirement that they must recognize all legal contracts and licenses from other states.
     
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    It could be said that some wives are chattel in monogamous marriages too, is that an argument against marriage? btw, allowing polygamy doesn't mean we should also allow violation of rights like aspects of islamic and mormon marriage might have. I'm saying might because I don't know, but talking as-if. It's like saying just because we allow mongamous marriage all the (*)(*)(*)(*)ty aspects of [backwards society]'s monogamous marriage is allowed too. Id est, no logic.

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    but it's still legal in some states yes?
     
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    Yes, but until the government is stripped of all authority to dictate marriage rights, we have not won.
     
  15. Dethklok

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    Depends. How many people can you have sex with on a semi-regular basis? Probably 50 is an upper limit for any practical definition of marriage, though there have been emperors with thousands of concubines they virtually never saw.
     
  16. Blackrook

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    And what do we do with women who have given up careers in order to raise children?

    You have no clue what you are talking about, but somehow you think you are entitled to an opinion.

    My guess is you are not married and you are too young to even know what marriage is.
     
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    fight on brethren.

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    what does that have to do with anything?

    If you raise a child you are expected to prioritise your child. You can't have a splendid career and be a good parent at the same time. depending on the job of course but you get my idea.
     
  18. Dethklok

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    Garbage, eh? Tell that to king David, who is recorded as being a man after God's own heart.
     
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    Religion preempted our elected representatives with a definition of marriage for some persons with a title of "deacon".

    I believe polygamy is one solution for women who complain they can't find any more nice guys.

    Article 4, Section 2 is a rational choice of law in Any conflict of laws, in the US.
     
  20. Dethklok

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    Eh? What about polyandry? Plenty of guys out there have trouble finding nice girls.
     
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    Again. The USA populace has missed the entire concept of "gay marriage". "Gay marriage" is about fiscal benefits, not human rights. From a human rights perspective, the concept of legalizing polygamy isn't debatable. It is a civil liberty. The problem is that if one invokes "gay marriage" (i.e. a FISCAL ENTITLEMENT to GAYS), then one now needs to EXPAND entitlements to more beggars. My take is that the tax code SHOULD ELIMINATE MARRIAGE BENEFITS to get rid of the homosexuals trying to get on the government dole. Then we don't have to deal with polygamists, bestialists, masturbationists and the like which have very valid claims if gay marriage-ists are given fiscal benefits.
     
  22. Spiritus Libertatis

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    Only because it is legal for them to treat women like cattle.

    Westernized polygamy would be entirely voluntary, people would enter and leave such relationships as they saw fit, as we do with monogamous ones.

    And those men have the freedom to leave as they do live in the United States and no one can force them not too, it's just that their stupid religion doesn't approve of such things and they feel pressured into complying.
     
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    all guys really need is just money because women tend to "evolve" better "client relations" skills under any form of capitalism.

    I think polyandry does not solve for a lack of sex if she is the only one.
     
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    I have no fundamental objections but do think you must tread very carefully from a legal basis. The protections and privileges enshrined in our legal system simply assumes a contract between two people. When you expand that definition you need to start setting legally enforceable priorities or ranking in the eyes of the law.

    Anyone who has ever seen inter family squabbles and feuds, which I assume is pretty much everyone, knows how bitter family wars can develop. Parents vs. children, brother vs, sister, nieces, aunts and uncles harboring ill will for decades over some social slight no one remembers. Now lets have 3 wives and another husband argue over who has the legal right to pull the plug on the poor old bastard after the stroke. Custody fights always start with Mother' Baby, Daddy's maybe. Anyone got an alimony table for 5? How do organize a divorce? Do you just vote them off the island?

    While the principle is straight forward the practical implications build up problems in a hurry.

    Just Sayin...
     
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    Mormons got rid of polygamy when Utah became a state, but its still under the surface, and would resurface again if the law allowed it. That's why the Mormon church fought so hard to preserve the "one man, one woman" definition of marriage. They weren't worried about gay marriage, they were worried about their own people rebelling and demanding polygamy. And since we're on this slippery slope, it will happen.
     

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