Question: Will Humanity Ever Get IT?

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  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is your support for that statement?
     
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    History.

    Above Alpha...p.s...Yellowstone Super Volcano erupts every 750,000 years or so wiping out much of the life upon Earth.
     
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    I would not say, 'complacency', but 'reproduction'. THE biggest problem on earth is too many humans. Unless there is a war, plague, or other disaster, the staggering number of humans will outpace the food supply, deplete the natural resources, & wipe out the forests.

    If you want the best for the planet, you'd cheer for extinction of humans. If you want the best for humans, you still need to limit their numbers somehow. But instead, we create unrestricted breeding grounds, giving free food to 3rd world people, who cannot support themselves or their children, so they can multiply. America encourages irresponsible childbearing, paying poor women to have kids, & fostering single mother lifestyles.

    These leftists with their absurd, irrational policies are the worst thing for humanity, the environment, & other species. They are hypocritical greenies, with no consistency in their ideals. :wall:
     
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    wonder if pole reversals affect volcanism?
     
  5. Bishadi

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    wow.

    You make people sound ugly.
    queers can be both a husband and wife now, just by choosing which one they want to be.

    Could that be the fix? Or is cap reduction still the best?

    It's almost as stupid as photo radar on a hwy at 55mpg.

    at 66, I got my picture taken. The safest travelling speed in America an they don't like it cuz the rightwingnuts like the old pukes to be happy in their little old fart community.
     
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    Really? How? It was not my intent. i try to describe things as they are, when i put on my cape & morph into ..'capt. obvious!'

    I don't think the proliferation of homosexuals will do much to curtail the uncontrolled breeding going on in 3rd world countries. I suppose you could try to catch them with photo radar, & at least get some porn shots.. :roll:
     
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    It's possible but as far as Yellowstone...the North American Continental Plate is moving West and this plate meets the Pacific plate along a line North to South in California where is located the San Andreas Fault line among others.

    The North American Plate is SUBDUCTED under the Pacific Plate...that is the North American Plate and Continent upon it are being forced underneath the Pacific plate and as this occurs the surface and Volcanic Crater above the magma chamber in Yellowstone move WEST...but the weak spot i the Earth crust that allows magma to rise stays at the same location thus after hundreds of thousands of years pass this volcano has seemed to move ever more East.

    Here is a link for the Yellowstone Volcano...LINK...https://www.google.com/search?q=yel...n&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=f4nPUeHd

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You made people sound like locust.

    capt obvious........?

    cute.

    Kind of like the question is: if existence only operates one way, is the math the name to know?

    In 3rd world countries, much of that is rape unless in places like Palestine, where the Muslims are reproducing to sustain the lineages of the murdered. Then in tel aviv, they import more whores than child births.


    Will humanity ever get it?

    I got it!
     
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    look up the last pole reversal
    I've spent a bunch of time there..
    the caldera plate is moving as we speak.


    But will humanity ever get it?
     
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    So, you seem to think that we all need to just get along, & there will be no more problems? You think the population growth rate is sustainable? If we all just hold hands & sing kum-ba-ya, everything would be fine?

    Have you even considered the world population growth rate? Cannot you see the correlation between pollution, extinction, loss of habitat, & the expanding human population?

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    The only thing we need to 'get', is that this cannot sustain itself. Overpopulation will breed MORE war & famine, as people fight to survive. This 'why can't we all just get along' is a utopian fantasy.. it is inhuman. We cannot survive as a species with that philosophy. It is a failure, & we are in danger of destroying not only the earth, but ourselves.

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    Whining about how we don't get along is pretty pathetic, while the whole planet is going down. It is like complaining about the dessert menu while the titanic is sinking. We'd better prioritize.
     
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    the population explosion is because knowledge exceeded beliefs.

    What makes man so cool, is we can plant more trees, than ever using, by choice!

    but few realize the capabilities of having the ability to enable life.

    solid

    hence the paradigm shift. That's what im doing. i aint here to fight battles but to destroy ignorance

    see that sig below......... I be that idiot!
    ww3 is inevitable.

    the cities are what produce most of the toys people hold in priority but with such a war as with nukes, it's like a video game and before its done the toy stores are gone and 'yes' survival becomes the focus.

    my part is that 'the name' has been learned and the 'knowledge' (paradigm shift) still occurs


    some folk think this is all just a joke

    but to comprehend what life is and how the universe operates, is far more important than any single sought concept of understanding ever.

    It's the universal quest of mankind; understanding.

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  13. NYCmitch25

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    I find your response funny since you are wrong in that assumption, ironcially making a case for my point. FYI, there are a pile of reasons to be concerned short term, as well, the earth will be in big trouble within 500million years, a number far closer than 7Billion.
     
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    Yes, but that problem solves itself. Your comment about the "left" is weird. It's contemporary american POV. A sad one at best.
     
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    Your crystal ball needs polishing....LOL
     
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    Trust me, You don't want to be living here when the ocean evaporates or the carbon cycle breaks down.
     
  17. tecoyah

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    I predict we humans will find much of the Earth pretty unpleasant within 100 yrs. The current extinction event should begin to taper off within 50, but the flora and fauna will be far less diverse for quite some time (hundreds of thousands of years). Land mass will be less, ocean acidification will cause major damage, and once the ice caps fail the climate will create a world of deserts and tropics.
    Fortunately, everyone here will be long gone by this time as well as our kids.
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    Speak for yourself. I'm not dying until I've extracted the last dollar from Social Security.

    But I'm not understanding where you are getting this Apocalypse Soon idea. Why should the Earth be wrecked in a hundred years?
     
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    I believe by starting my comment with "I Predict", it was relatively clear was indeed "Speaking for Myself"...but as far as my belief going forward in the next century, I am simply extrapolating a continuance of the last ten years.
     
  20. Lil Mike

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    OK, I guess I'm not sure what in the natural world started going downhill in the past decade.
     
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    The industrial revolution began an increase in greenhouse gas release that has managed to change atmospheric composition in such a way that thermal radiation does not leave our world as it did a century ago. The eventual result will be increased temperatures in both the atmospheric and oceanic circulations which are likely going to result in adverse conditions for our species.

    I could be wrong....but the thing is....if I am right, I will prepare, and you will die.
     
  22. Lil Mike

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    OK, but you were talking about issues that have begun in the past decade. Have world temperatures started to go up in the past decade?
     
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    Ayup.

    "According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) and shown in this series of maps, the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8°Celsius (1.4°Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade."
    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/WorldOfChange/decadaltemp.php

    The trend is not looking good for the planet....and the oceans are absorbing most of it so far. Unfortunately, they also have limits.

    "This trend reaches back further than a couple of years. There have been exactly zero months, since February 1985, with average temperatures below those for the entire 20th century. (And those numbers are not as dramatic as they could be, because the last 15 years of the 20th century included in this period raised its average temperature, thereby lessening the century-long heat differential.) That streak—304 months and counting—was certainly not broken in June 2010, according to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Last month saw average global surface temperatures 0.68 degree Celsius warmer than the 20th-century average of 15.5 degrees C for June—making it the warmest June at ground level since record-keeping began in 1880."
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=average-global-temperature-rise-creates-new-normal
     
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    Your links don't say that world temperatures have gone up in the past decade.
     
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    If you had bothered to actually READ the links...you would have likely seen this:

    "In the past decade (2000-2009), land temperature changes are 50 percent greater in the United States than ocean temperature changes; two to three times greater in Eurasia; and three to four times greater in the Arctic and the Antarctic Peninsula. Warming of the ocean surface has been largest over the Arctic Ocean, second largest over the Indian and Western Pacific Oceans, and third largest over most of the Atlantic Ocean."

    Regardless....I have tried this debate far too many times to waste my time again. No data will be enough for you, and you have none to contribute to me.

    We are done here.
     

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