The Right Wing Is Still Wrong

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    Herman Cain is a good example, and he didn't even rape anyone. One month later "Is Bill Clinton the greatest man ever to live? MSNBC's Rachel Maddow with that story, but first..."
     
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    Wall Streeters are little boys blowing bubbles in the air. As they giggle and jump for joy, the rest of us wind up with soap popping in our face.
     
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    Summary of Jobs Bills Stalled in the Senate

    The “Forgotten Fifteen”

    1) H.R. 872—Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act:
    2) H.R. 910—Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011:
    3) H.J.Res. 37—Disapproving the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission with respect to regulating the Internet and broadband industry practices:
    4) H.R. 1230—Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act:
    5) H.R. 1229—Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act:
    6) H.R. 1231—Reversing President Obama's Offshore Moratorium Act:
    7) H.R. 2021—The Jobs and Energy Permitting Act of 2011:
    8) H.R. 2018—Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011:
    9) H.R. 1315—Consumer Financial Protection & Soundness Improvement Act:
    10) H.R. 1938— North American-Made Energy Security Act:
    11) H.R. 2587—Protecting Jobs From Government Interference Act:
    12) H.R. 2401—Transparency In Regulatory Analysis Of Impacts On The Nation:
    13) H.R. 2681—Cement Sector Regulatory Relief Act:
    14) H.R. 2250—EPA Regulatory Relief Act:
    15) H.R. 2273—Coal Residuals Reuse and Management Act:

    And Still Counting…

    16) H.R. 2433—Veterans Opportunity to Work Act:
    17) H.R. 674—To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the imposition of 3 percent withholding on certain payments made to vendors by government entities:
    18) H.Con.Res. 34—Budget for Fiscal Year 2012:

    http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled

    The first 15 bills were designed to reduce Government Red Tape and allow businesses to grow and hire more people are already in Harry "Do Nothing" Reid's hands. You'll need to ask him why he's holding up these important "jobs" bills. The very same reason Obama is delaying the business mandate of Obama Care.
     
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    Perhaps in your head he's the president who has done those things, but in reality, he has not. No arrest was forced, nor is there any evidence that he changed talking points OR ordered the IRS to do anything. You conservatives and your zany conspiracy theories always get me!

    All of this nonsense resides solely in your head.

    Clinton raped a women? Pretty steep allegation, and certainly not one that you subscribe to merely because you are partisan hack! So surely you have evidence or valid source reflecting Clinton's rape conviction in a court of law. Please feel free to provide it.
     
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    Zimmerman was arrested, what are you talking about? YouTube guy too.

    Who did change those talking point to a known lie against an American citizen? Has anyone figured out who thinks for our new NSA head?

    Hi administration can't get obamacare into place, everyone is banging hookers, no one has a clue who directs the IRS etc.. Where are the results for all the trillions spent? Are they in your head? Where are these shovel ready jobs your guy needs a few hundred billion for and why didn't they do them last time?

    Would her testimony and that of a corroborating eye witness work? Would it be OK if it came from two democrat women? Before he was president? Juanita Broderick got a unfair deal because the left will always throw any individual under the bus for their power and they think Hispanics are children.
     
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    Who's trying to act tough or hurling insults? Do facts that happen to conflict with your revisionist version of history count as insults?

    People have answered questions and testified, it's just that you and other partisan conservatives do not like the answers. The investigation has run its course and the witch hunt came to an abrupt end when it was revealed that the decision to give extra scrutiny to conservative groups came from a conservative republican IRS agent--via their own testimony. That's reality.

    Now you can either accept reality, or you can live in conspiracyville falsely thinking that Obama MUST have been involved. You might as well be asserting : "I DONT CARE WHAT THE FACTS SAY, I KNOW THAT CLINTON WAS SOMEHOW INVOLVED WITH 9/11".

    Facts do not constitute personal insults, and do not try to avert the topic by falsely pretending that you are somehow a victim.

    What the heck is it with conservatives and this grandiose victimization-persecution complex?

    typical victim-conservative mantras:
    "I'm a victim because you're coming after my guns!"
    "I'm a victim because you're destroying my marriage!"
    "I'm a victim of the liberal media!"
    "I'm a victim because you're denying my right to discriminate against minorities!"
    "I'm a victim because of activist judges!"
    "I'm a victim because you're denying my right to control women's bodies!"
    "I'm a victim because of liberal academia!"
    "I'm a victim because X, Y, and Z"

    It sure would be nice if we could get through one of these threads without a conservative portraying themselves as a victim.
     
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    What are the facts, and use names of who did what and why.

    they all said it was t them that did it, and one took the 5th

    Because they haven't come yet. Like who and why.

    If you are referring to shipman who said it wasn't him, he is a democrat and his wife is involved with occupy Wall Street. He as was just appointed by a Bush because of his senior position at the IRS.

    What are the who and why facts to any of these scandals? Please use names and the why from their mouth if you have answers. Otherwise it is just speculation, not facts as you claim. We know the names of the 19 hijackers and why they did it. Completely different.


    yet that is all you have in your post. Not one fact.

    All of these seem fair arguments, deal with constitutional rights we should have. No one is crying for welfare they didn't earn. Now go run off and play with your government, adults are trying to have a conversation here.
     
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    Obama's to blame because Zimmerman was arrested? .....or was he really arrested due to local citizenry outrage influencing the prosecutor's office?

    Youtube guy was arrested for violating probation, again, nothing to do with Obama.

    Is Obama also to blame for the Toyota recalls and Tim Tebow being released by the Jets? Are you incapable of looking at even the most benign events without jumping through mental-gymnastics to assign some kind of blame to Obama?

    In other words, all you have is biased speculation and conjecture?

    Can't get Obamacare into place? Banging hookers? Unknown who directs the IRS?

    Yes, all of that nonsense resides solely in your head. No seriously, it resides solely in your head. Seriously. It's all in your head.

    Wait, so you don't have a source that illustrates Clinton's rape conviction in a court of law?

    You mean to say that all you can offer are baseless unproven allegations from a disgruntled woman? Do you apply this same certainty-of-guilt for allegations against conservative/republicans as well? Something tells me...you do not.
     
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    He didn't fuel that outrage? He didn't take part? BS + moving the goal posts

    As a direct result of being thrown under the bus for a lie.

    No. Obama is not to blame for either of those things. He is responsible for failing to run his administration and presiding over the worst recovery in recorded humanity.


    I await my details, otherwise we need more investigation and you lost your previous argument. I call dodge.

    he delayed it for not being ready hundreds of billions and 4 yers later

    it is a big thing in this administration. Hookers everywhere.

    Unknown who ordered the parties targeted and why.

    I think you are out o the loop. Let me know the names of the people when you get the chance and stop dodging a straight forward easy question. You are getting jay Karney with this.


    She didn't press charges. She is too distressed. 5 people have come forward to corroborate her story, she told them when it happened long before he was president. Clinton sent her weird letters afterward in his hand writing etc.., Please forward Herman Cain conviction the original topic.

    Like 10 women or so have stories of him groping. One women was fondled when the president heard her husband died. Do you believe all women are liars, or just democrat ones that speak out against the leaders you adore?
     
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    Go back and reread the previous posts in this thread if you are confused.

    The republican conservative IRS agent said that it was his idea to give conservative groups extra scrutiny, Issa subsequently tried to block the release of those transcripts.

    or because many conservatives are clueless, aware of current events, and only get their news and facts from political commentators who prevent reality from reaching their audience

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Internal Revenue Service manager, who described himself as a conservative Republican, told congressional investigators that he and a local colleague decided to give conservative groups the extra scrutiny that has prompted weeks of political controversy.

    Investigation over, it originated from a republican.

    See above link as it pertains to the IRS scandal.

    Also, it's not my problem if you are too lazy to look up this readily and easily available information.

    Are you trying to inadvertently reveal that you might have a problem with reading comprehension? This isn't meant to be an insult, but this is the impression you are giving by falsely asserting I said X or Y when it never occurred. This isn't a matter of debate or opinion.

    Except that many conservatives in this thread have been unable to concisely frame their arguments or position their beliefs on evidence, and instead have resorted to biased speculation, conjecture, and circular/broken reasoning. Some of these conservatives have even gone so far as to argue conspiracy theories to substantiate their wacky ridiculous beliefs. These are the not the actions of adults engaging in conversation, but of conservatives parroting talking points on subjects/topics that they do not understand.
     
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    No words of mine could have more adequately illustrated my point that some conservatives are utterly and hopelessly disconnected from reality.

    Thank you for proving my point!
     
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    That's why you get a good lawyer. Justice is available for those who can pay. The reasons are paid for. But you're probably right..the poor person has little alternatives and can't afford actual justice. The law caters to cash too.
     
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    Nope their are plenty of lawyers that do pro bono work and many of them are quite good. These days you can't just max out your credit cards and go file bankruptcy claiming you can't pay them, you have to have suffered some sort of major change in your financial status in the last few months.
     
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    Listen up lib. I said personal insults.
    Also people have not finished answering questions at all, despite what pitiful liberals out there may think. We haven't even started. The entire nation thinks the Obama administration is stonewalling. Turn you tv off whatever Rachel maddow 24/7 you are watching and you will see with your own eyes.
    Stawman alert! (clear sign you lost) I never said Clinton was involved in 9/11. Here is a fact lib..Clinton lied under oath. Now if you're correct you'll be able to prove me wrong now wont you.
    If I am correct you wont be able to say jack sh&* except hurl more insults and word salad.
     
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    You consider facts that contradict the your parroted falsehoods as insults. A wonderful example of the phenomena pertaining to conservative's grandiose victimization complex.

    They sure have, dozens of subpoenaed witnesses as a matter of fact. You just are oblivious to the developments that took place within the investigation, much like you are oblivious to the testimony that these witnesses have provided.

    The clue that the scandal is winding down is to examine conservative media outlets and observing that they have gone utterly silent on it. Once the released testimony (that Issa attempted to block from being released) revealed that the idea for extra scrutiny originated from a conservative republican IRS agent, the witch hunt came to an abrupt end.

    Another dead end political witch hunt by the partisan retardlicans, dissipates into obscurity. Fast and Furious, Benghazi, and now the IRS scandal. Republicans are excellent at cementing the fact that they shouldn't be taken seriously into the minds of the American people. Falsehood propagators like yourself who argue things contrary to investigative findings and reality, only further hurt the GOP's image. Which I think is a good thing. Well done!

    If asserting nonsense like that makes you feel better, then have at it

    Keep the inadvertent self-reflection projections to yourself. Just because you happen to rely on partisan ignorant political hacks like Hannity to frame your way of thinking, that doesn't mean other people you encounter do the same thing. Now, feel free to review Hannity's last broadcast last week so that you can come up with more cheap nonsensical political points.

    It appears you don't know what a strawman argument is.

    I never said you did. I was making a facetious analogy to illustrate the absurdity of the position you were peddling, but it is interesting to see how quickly you entertained such a ridiculous notion. Wait, is it because you actually do believe Clinton was involved in 9/11?

    And again, you falsely portraying yourself a victim. Relax, you are (as usual) not correct. Oh, and pointing out that you are factually incorrect on a whole slew of things is not an "insult" or "word salad".

    I don't know what it is with conservatives and their comical reliance on this massive self-victimization complex.
     
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    I didn't read any of this. Word Salad is a sign of Schizo.
     
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    Refusing to tell the truth isn't the same as a scandal going away. Stories just get less coverage as time goes because it is boring to watch the same thing every day. Obama knows this, that is why he knows to just lie to people and stall them and never tell the truth because in time attentions will turn. It is called the long slow screw strategy. As for dead, hundreds of dead Mexicans because of fast and furious.
     
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    And at least one dead American.
     
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    Doesn't matter to the left. Our neighbors can be killed in the streets because Obama armed their enemies in a real war against drug cartels, they love him too much to ever say "might of messed up that time", maybe we ought to fire holder. That would be far to close to an "extremist paranoid" response apparently as some poster had called it.
     
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    Agreed. The left cares about brown to the extent they need to inorder to get their votes which is apparently somewhere between a rat's fart and nil.
     
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    Wrong. Especially when we're talking about conservative media like foxnews, and their gradual winding down on the coverage. This is because although they're partisan hacks, they're not in utter denial of reality. Once something more and more ceases to be a story (like when it turns out to be bogus) then there's no point in continuing to run with it. They move on to the next subject.

    You have no evidence for any of that.

    You mean to tell me that had the ATF not of involved itself, that the mexican drug cartels never would of done the drug deals? Or that the victims wouldn't have been killed--because the perpetrators who shot them simply wouldn't have been in possession of a firearm? It doesn't occur to you that all of that would of happened anyway?

    You sound like a liberal.

    To be fair, in all likelihood you haven't read much of anything within this thread. So you admitting this is of no surprise, and a good explanation as to why you have been in incapable of substantiating anything you've said pertaining to the topic. Like many other conservatives, you probably just stumbled in here haphazardly and just parroted whatever it was you heard on Glenn Beck or Limbaugh's program that day.

    You've spent the entire thread making up nonsense, so it's only fitting that you would affirm this caricature of yourself by also pretending to be an armchair psychologist.

    Thank you for helping to prove my assessments as valid ;)
     
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    So because the right doesn't care about "brown", you proceed to argue a false equivalency and assume that the left must be in the same boat as the conservatives. Did you happen to come up with that gem while you were cleaning out racist tea-bag solicitation emails out of your inbox (because you certainly wouldn't subscribe to any of those!), or is that simply wishful thinking on your part?

    More inadvertent self-reflecting projections being argued by our conservative friends.
     
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    Who did what and when then?

    Who did what and when then? Why haven't they found out, and who profits from not being called out?

    Arming the enemy of your allied neighbor is always bad policy. Arming people engaged in war is likely to lead to killing, and will help the side being armed. Even an obama from should be programmed to understand this. Consider the admin of Syrian rebels.

    Take it back.

    Libber debate tactic number 5, always blame Glenn beck or Fox News and insult your opponent.

    Name and why behind Benghazi, the IRS scandal, fast and furious, and reporter wire tapping and why these are good policies for the country and I will leave you alone.
     
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    Why are you posting in this thread if you by your admission here, have absolutely no idea what is going on?

    I'd imagine then that you must really loathe Ronald Reagan, who's entire presidency was sullied by the Iran-Contra affair where he and his top aides (per the Tower Commission) signed off and approved secretly selling weapons directly to Iranian terrorists. I mean surely you keep to your principles, and wouldn't argue a double standard.

    Conservative debate tactic number 5, say forum person X said Y, which never actually occurred.

    This statement of yours is truly nonsensical and you must either reword it or clarify what is it you want to know or what you are asking.

    It would be like saying "name why tortuga rum, ANOVA statistical analysis, and don't ask/don't tell are good policies".

    Doesn't make sense.
     

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