Could God's rule of free will prevent alien conquer earth by force?

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  1. lynx

    lynx Well-Known Member

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    I believe there are space rules, treaties set up by God in the heavenly kingdom and the entire space amoung all different alien races, even apply to the earth and human. One of the rule may be about free will. To choose in one's will.

    The aliens/fallen angels can't conquer the earth and human by force, but by human give them the authority WILLINGLY. May be that's the reason why aliens haven't attack the earth even though they are 1000 times more advanced than us. May be that's why the aliens need the benevloence alien propaganda and the world in dire siutuation to give them a chance to persuade world governments and all people to handover the authority. All because of the rule of FREE WILL.
     
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    The Bible says that people who see visions of angels are nuts.

    Colossians 2:18 (CEV) = "Don’t be cheated by people who make a show of acting humble and who worship angels. They brag about seeing visions. But it is all nonsense, because their minds are filled with selfish desires."
     
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    Who is seeing angels here? I am trying to figure out why the aliens haven't attack the earth and conquer human yet.

    The aliens with their technologies thousand times more advance than us, it is a legitimate question.
     
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    um you never explained why aliens are fallen angels

    funny no god ever seemed to care about slavery or genocide of freedom on a planetary scale for about all of human history why an interstellar ban?
     
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    noting is there not even life that's not people don't believe it myself

    no ones their? life that's as intelligent as us or more so ( more believable then the 1st thing at least



    theirs a lot of territory to go around so they don't need to?

    theirs a lot of territory to go around so no ones gotten to us maybe even know one knows were hear regardless of what they would do?

    they don't want to?

    no one else around has the know how to get to us?
     
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    How come humans can conquer other humans then? Wouldn't that be breaking the free will rule.
     
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    An advanced Alien Civilization having the capability to Warp or Fold Space/Time as this is the only possible way other than Wormhole Travel to traverse the huge distances between star systems in any relatively reasonable amount of time...closest star system to Earth is 4.2 Light Years Away or about 26 TRILLION Miles...as to make space travel viable....would understand the Unified Field Theory thus be capable of Matter/Energy Interchange.

    That means they could generate ANYTHING they wanted be it resources, energy, material...etc.

    This also means other than exploration and scientific study we wouldn't have to worry about them trying to conquer our planet for what we have.

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    now now just cause your well off doesn't mean you cant be controlling or murderous or paranoid
     
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    It's not that they are murderous it is just that they look at us as in the way we look at our pet Dog.

    We bring our pets to the Vet to get their balls chopped off but we don't want them dead.

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    Over 400 documented alien abduction cases stopped by calling out Jesus's name. this was discovered by somebody that was an atheist at the time. Why the alien afraid of Jesus, if they are not demons or fallen angels?
    [video=youtube;Q3CDxIyquw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CDxIyquw8[/video]
     
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    I think that rule apply only to how advanced being/aliens handled the earth and human. We are not equal to the aliens in ability and intelligence, but God said the earth is given to human, may be that's why aliens haven't had their full force take over. You have to realise this, the aliens are not only in space, they are also hiddng undergrouds, caves and ocean, they are everywhere but remain hidden, may be until God remove the restraining power.
     
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    Look up Ben Rich's deathbed confession, it won't take someone's life time to travel in space....

    "Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO and the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and U.S. Military travel to stars.

    "...........“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”

    "...We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. irst, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”

    ".........1. There are 2 types of UFOs — the ones we build and ones ‘they’ build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual “hand-me-downs.” The Government knew and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon “purge”, administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector…

    2. Nearly all “biomorphic” aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft — from Kelly’s SR-71 Blackbird onward to today’s drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft............."
    http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/?p=8085

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    Look up Ben Rich's deathbed confession, it won't take someone's life time to travel in space....

    "Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO and the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and U.S. Military travel to stars.

    "...........“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”

    "...We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. irst, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”

    ".........1. There are 2 types of UFOs — the ones we build and ones ‘they’ build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual “hand-me-downs.” The Government knew and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon “purge”, administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector…

    2. Nearly all “biomorphic” aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft — from Kelly’s SR-71 Blackbird onward to today’s drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft............."
    http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/?p=8085
     
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    Interesting viewpoint. Where do you get your information?
     
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    I am not sure which points you asked, if you ask about the restraining power, it is from the Bible.

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-9 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders.

    The lawless one is the anti-christ, he, "with all power, signs and lying wonders", seems his abilities is supernatural like an advance being/alien. The lawless one will only be revealed according to God's time when he decide to remove the restrainer. But who or what is the restrainer or restraining power, no one sure.

    It makes sense to me the reasons the advance aliens haven't take over the earth and human is because there are a much higher power restraining them. The highest one restrain them.

    The aliens are very advance, but they are still not the most advance and powerful. Someone is above them.
     
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    Those Jewish fairy tales are certainly entertaining.
     
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    Do you understand how big space is?

    Why would aliens need or want to conquer us? Earth isn't the center of the universe or even the galaxy. It's a relatively isolated backwater.
     
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    Both wormholes and folding/warping space time have been essentially disproven as possibilities. The only form of true FTL travel is through manipulating quantum entanglement.
     
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    I am uniquely informed about such Lockheed employees and their statements.

    What Ben has described is what I am taking about.

    The use a GRAVITIC DRIVE...to Fold Space/Time thus they do not move through Space/Time but rather move One Dimentionally from point to point thus ZERO TIME PASSAGE.

    Matter or anything with Mass cannot move faster than the Speed of Light which is 186,282 miles per second. As mass moves faster towards this velocity it obtains Potential Kinetic Energy or Force thus an object of matter moving at Light Speed would have INFINITE MASS....this is not possible.

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    No they have not been disproved and Quantum Entanglement cannot be achieved with massive numbers of particles.

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    I do not believe that to be true anymore then this to be true

    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/loving.html

    "Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
    -Judge Leon M. Bazile (January 6, 1959)
     
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    Actually it has been 100% Proven that ALL RACES were originally BLACK and from the African Continent.

    This can be traced in our Genomes and as Human's spread out over the world and went to different latitudes those living in Colder Weather and less yearly sun exposure after thousands of years had their skin whiten.

    A case in point the Spanish from Spain are VERY white skinned. They came to Mexico and the Islands in the Caribbean and bread with the natives. Those children were much lighter skinned at first but since the 1500's those descendants are now just as dark skinned as the original people living there.

    Some forms of evolution happens within just a few generations due to conditions and environment.

    Case in point...Americans are on average MUCH TALLER AND MUCH MORE MUSCULAR than the people of any other country. The reasons for this is Americans eat a greater amount of beef, chicken, pork, lamb...etc...more animal protein that the people of any other country on Earth.

    A study was done and it found that immigrants from other countries who came to the U.S. with a family history observed 5 generations back had men at a average height of 5 foot 5 and women with an average height of 5 foot.

    This study used all immigrants not just those from countries with people who were short.

    As well the study showed the men having an approx. average weight of 140 lbs and the women an average weight of 89 lbs.

    5 Generations living in America and these same families ancestors has an average height for men at 5 foot 9 and weight of 200 lbs and the women 5 foot 4 and weight 135 lbs.

    Even though these people who married within their own race did not have the ancestorial genetic traits to be taller and heavier...living under the environment and conditions in the United States allowed the DNA to change.

    I am almost 6 foot 2 inches and I am right now 235...I drop 10 lbs if I am about to go on a job...I am fit in the EXTREME and extremely muscular.

    When I go to other countries with my team...the people there think we are GIANTS. In the Middle East or South East Asia we DWARF the people there and even if a find a guy close to my height if we compare our arms or legs mine are 3 times the circumference in comparison.

    As well because the United States and especially where I live has weather extremes as far as temp...right now in Massachusetts it is 98 degrees out and the humidity makes it feel like 120 F. In the winter here it can be 30 below Zero with wind chill on an average night and when we had some Soldiers from Kuwait for training down at Ft. Bragg in the winter...these guy could NOT STOP VIOLENTLY SHIVERING!

    Now Ft. Bragg is in NORTH CAROLINA and being this far south is never really cold in the winter. Being from Massachusetts and KNOWING what real cold is I walk around in the Winter there with a long sleeve T-Shirt on! LOL!

    But these soldiers from Kuwait having never before experienced COLD and as I said this supposed COLD was only 46 degrees F....their bodies could not handle it and they shook so hard due to this that they could not concentrate and were basically worthless. They were wearing FULL WINTER GEAR AS WELL...so it just goes to show how a Human Body will evolve to handle different climates.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I am bad in science. I only know everything that seems impossible to earthling human seems possisble to the advance aliens. Their technologies are unimaginable. Ben reveal that aliens have the ability to travel amoung stars and are already working with human. This show the aliens are indeed interested in human and the earth. They may have their own plans and agenda, in which, I don't think the aliens would be honest to reveal to human what their plans are.
     
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    That's just an assumption that doesn't really based on what's going on. If the earth is not that special or not that interesting to them, then, why are they here? Why abducting human with all these experiments? Why working with human? Why need the contactees sending out their messages? It seems they have some sort of plans and agenda going on on earth.
     
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    why bother? that makes as much sense as sending troops to the Congo to enslave chimps. it's much more interesting to study the chimps.
     
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    I can only talk so much about this.

    Let's put it this way...the idea that some people have about E.T. being all warm and fuzzy...forget it.

    If you happen to see something in the sky following you or taking an interest in you...RUN....RUN YOUR ASS OFF!

    Get as fast as you can to the closest spot where there is a lot of people. Do not approach any craft or stand outside gawking at a craft in the sky.

    Just because they have no intention upon harming the Human Race because they already posses the tech to interchange matter to energy and back....thus if they needed a few pounds of Gold or Platinum they could transmutate energy into any element or material they wanted....just because they can do this doesn't mean it is safe for any person they have picked up for study!

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