Bill O'Reilly gives fiery monologue challenging black leaders

How come black people are the only ones who complain about how racist America is? You never hear Indians (dots not feathers) complain... never hear Chinese complain.... Hispanics are literally breaking down the doors to get here.... you never hear Koreans or Vietnamese complain....

What is it about blacks that everyone is happy here in America except them, despite the fact that there is literally no place on Earth where black people enjoy a higher standard of living than they do right here...?

 

ok, thank you.

 

I'm sure that when the Repubs take over they'll have blacks eating tree bark and mud pies. Just hang in there.

 

Its sort of a copout, but then again, Canada doesn't have the US's diversity. Compare similar demographics and its basically even. Its just the facts. Canada also doesn't have a near 3rd world country on their border with millions of low education illegals streaming in each year having children, who happen to be counted in those education demographics as well. So what might be a copout to you is just pure fact and shouldn't be discounted. I also stand my assertion that the US's best and brightest compare just fine with the best in any other country on earth. We might have a lot of dummies, but in the end we still produce the most influential business leaders and innovators.

 

Not do they ever discuss the real victims of racial discrimination >> WHITES, from affirmative action preferences.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...4-so-you-want-talk-race-relations-huh-ok.html

 

Google it.

Bing it.


Or some blogger somewhere posted a link to it for you that they found by Google.

But you didn't see that speech broadcast in the pro Obama leftwing media that most libs get their information from.

 

They're not there to suck up tax dollars. They're there because of the "lock em up and throw away the key" attidude that O'Reilly championed in this rant. This is Archie Bunker thinking. A real simple, don't have to think about it solution to a complex problem, geared for low information voters. The problems that come with it, high incarceration rates, tax burdens, and the network of for profit prisons are either ignored or exploited.

Agreed. Fears of civil unrest were stoked by right wing commentators, some politicians and widely repeated by bigots and the far right. This happened just before the Presidential election, and again during the Martin case. I heard these same sorts of baseless fears being echoed by white people who grew up in the segregated South back in the 1960's. The comments are identical.

They are not reflections of the black community at all, as the evidence clearly shows; but rather solid evidence that bigotry is alive and very well in some circles of society today. The fact that Fox News has chosen to pander to that audience speaks for itself.

A very good point, and one that is very indicitive of the attitudes of the people this rant was designed for. Bill Clinton ended "Welfare as we know it" nearly twenty years ago. But out there in Archie Bunker land, they still pass around stories about welfare queens and rant about doing anything for the poor.

Affirmative action and better access to education and the work place has allowed many African American to succeed and join the middle class, and the wealthy. Which is what was intended. I have known many professionally and personally over the years. But, I have also seen the inner city and the gansta culture.

It isn't any more likely to go away than the white trash culture which is also still very much with us. The irony is that both cultures have pretty much the same social problems. High rates of illigitmacy, domestic violence, unemployment, poor educations and drugs (they call meth "hillbilly heroin" for a reason).

 

Many of them don't even know who the father is before and after the birth of the child. They need to straighten out their act. And if Ubama wants to make an impression...he should push on this.

 

All the above without links. No clue what you base them on. Not the facts: proven below.

39.8% of those receiving government subsistence (food stamps, welfare, UI, etc) are black, compared to 38.8% being white. As there are five times as many whites as blacks ................ easy math.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

70% more blacks on such subsistence since Obama took office.

Black unemployment was 12.7% when Obama took office. It is now 13.7%, even with all the LFPR games Obama plays. Otherwise, its at about 17% now.
http://townhall.com/columnists/dona...on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full

Black on black murders at all time high. 13% of the population. 50% of the homicide victims.
http://globalgrind.com/news/7000-black-people-murdered-each-year-other-blacks-details

Liberal fairy tales come crashing down.

 

Because of slavery in the past they believe they deserve more. They just wont let that go. Its the way they are brought up.

When ever anything on equal rights ever come up they believe it should be handed to them...they don't believe they need to earn it.

 

Very True. And don't forget that 73% of black children without a father. This being 10 times more than whites and hispanics combined. They just don't want to know about this. They believe its AOK.

 

^ Translation : Everything is whitey's fault


you are dismissed sir

 

So why did he squander the opportunity for his more racilly dividive." I could have been Treyvon 35 years ago" speech?

I don't see how that can happen when government has institutionalized the focus of race in everything that is government. Just try and fill out a legal form that doesn't include your racial ID. I submit, that as long as that there is a focus on hyphenated America, we will always have racism. The focus is not on being wholly American. I happen to be American-Indian. Have you ever wondered why the government has made it so that only my race has "American" before the hyphen?

Sure, the decline of the family can be found in all communities, but the black community acculturated it to the point that it is a defining factor of black culture. The question is, why has this happened?... and its what I think Bill O was holding black leadership accountable.

 

Agree with you all around. Why do some blacks insist on calling themselves African Americans anyway? THey are no such thing. I bet most of them don't even have great grandparents that were African.

Its like they INTENTIONALLY separate themselves.

As for black culture. Blacks themselves are going to have to do something about the culture celebration of drugs, thug life, single parent households, crime, etc etc.

Those things aren't "whiteys" fault.

And I'm sick of hearing otherwise.

 

I actually agree with what you are saying. Giving Mr. Obama credit where credit is due, while also pointing out, we being inclusive, the shortcoming of his, and the efforts of others, like so many civil rights leaders.

Perhaps I should have made it more clear.

Then we must also remember the speech given by one Bill Cosby, years ago, which was not well received, if I remember correctly.

 

no it was not , many "black leaders" were not happy when Bill Cosby among other things suggested that using the word (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) yourself and then getting mad when others used it was ridiculous.

 

More like... Just Us (racists) for Trayvon.....

 

Your memory serves you well. Cosby's speech was not well-received by the black community, but lauded everywhere else. I don't think that Cosby's backlash was lost on this administration. IMO Cosby showed leadership while this administration chose a different path....the path of pandering or racism, or both.

 

Seems lots of blacks don't like that type of leadership. Seems they like the Obama type of leadership which is victim-hood.

 

Yep. Victim-hood is the refuge of accountability. Behold, the OWEblamer administration and all its "scandals".

I am reminded of an old leadership saying:

"A lion doesn't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep".

 

You are looking at that speech out of context. Cosby later went back and clarified his remarks. People didn't necessarily have a problem with what Cosby said. It was how he said it. And in spite of this thread going on for pages no one has posted any evidence that some of the sentiments that Cosby expressed differ in any way from what black leaders in the community express on a regular basis.

The problem is you like many on this forum seem to get your information about the black community from Fox News. You don't go on the ground and interact with black people. If you go to a few sermons at black churches I guarantee you the topic of drugs, promiscuity, lack of education and absentee fathers is touched on numerous times. Anyone that says black leaders don't talk about this stuff just signals to me that they really don't care about the black community.

When a black person murders someone the overwhelming majority of the time it's a black person. Who do you think genuinely talks about violence in the black community more? Internet racists like to talk about it as a hobby but if you have meaningful relationships with black people from high crime areas you will see they have very genuine concerns about it. They don't just talk about gangs and drugs to race bait or make up an excuse for owning an expensive AR-15 while they are behind on their mortgage.

 

What exactly is the black community doing to better their situation? NOTHING!!!!!!

 

no doubt some in the black community ARE talking about these subjects , but the people who should be listening are not, they are too busy making rap albums glorifying their positions, and there are a LOT more of them then there are concerned blacks so of course that is the voice we hear loudest.

Think about if the situation were reversed and the KKK was the loudest white group you heard and a few whites were speaking out against them, but they couldn't be heard for all the noise the KKK was making. What would you naturally think? Wow these kluckers must represent most white people......... It's just natural.

The same could be said for Islam. Of course there are Muslims who are against terrorism, but they are drowned out by the loud ones and so that gives us the impression that hey, all Muslims are terrorists.

Again, it's human nature. It doesn't have a damned thing to do with Fox News. Frankly I think its disgusting that you would besmirch a network by claiming that they are somehow racist.

These blacks, who no doubt exist, need to stand up and be heard. But even the ones who want to be heard surely don't want white people commenting , the first white comment and suddenly they are angry at whites and start trying to justify the behavior they were supposedly against to begin with.

So I tell these blacks the same thing I tell moderate Muslims, stand up and speak out if you want to be acknowledged.

 

I did not give an all encompassing critique about what the black community is doing to better their situation did I? The OP posted the lie that black leaders don't talk about the problems in the black community and I debunked it. That's it. I was on topic and addressed the OP. If you want to start a mega thread discussing all the efforts of the black community to better it's situation I'm sure there is a section of the forum for that. Good luck.

 

Maybe. Maybe not. The OP of this thread posted a lie from Bill O'Reilly that black leaders are not talking about this stuff. Obviously they are. If you want to discuss who is or is not listening I'm sure there is a section in this forum where you can start a thread on that topic.