8yr old 'Grand Theft Auto IV' Player Shoots 90yr old Woman in the Head

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  1. <IF> Marius

    <IF> Marius New Member

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    Preeeeeetty sure it's just the fact that someone left a loaded firearm available for a child to find and pick up.

    Perhaps you should stop being blatantly dishonest?
     
  2. DevilMay

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    Instead of making passing comments, please explain it.

    I don't think either of you do. Don makes loads of topics insinuating progressives will or should do certain things in response to certain situations. This topic is no different... He's trying to say the "gun-grabbers" will be calling for censorship.
     
  3. johnmayo

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    Violent crime has only gone down since violent video games came out. Unsupervised 8 year olds allowed to play adult games and firearms are the problem. If you own a gun, consider locking it up. If you are too lazy, keep it unloaded. If you can't even keep it unloaded, don't give it to a 8 year old kid with the safety off that you leave with your 90 year old grandmother and adult entertainment.
     
  4. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't usually let things get to me, but this post made me angry.

    Here's an idea: don't let your 8 year old kid play a game made for those over 18. Don't let him go to the homes of his friends unless you know the parents have a similar policy. Take some personal responsibility and stop relying on the Federal government to do everything for you.

    To be honest, I couldn't give a hoot about your kid's mental health when it conflicts with my liberty. You're welcome to enact whatever statist reforms you like, but I, and the vast majority of others, will continue to play immersive violent videogames whether you like it or not. The power no longer lies with centralized big government, we're perfectly capable of circumventing your fruitless efforts. The world doesn't revolve around the United States, video game companies will merely move overseas. Electronic Arts alone employs 10,000 high skilled workers, who will now either be out of a job, or working overseas.

    Can we not have anything at all mature anymore? Do we have to pander to the lowest common denominator in society all the time? Can we have no Tarantino? No Scorsese? Have you ever seen Taxi Driver? It's a masterpiece of cinema, but it clearly idolizes vigilante violence. You could make the argument that it looks favorably on terrorism. Should we ban classic film?

    Look back at Lolita. That idolized pedophilia. Should we start burning books?

    Please, America - I plead with you, don't go down the same fascist road my own country has. It only leads to greater government power, and the reduction of liberty for all. At first they come for the Manhunts and the Mortal Kombats, but it doesn't stop there. We've fought long and hard for a R18+ video games, and all it's amounted to is a rating equivalent to M or MA movies. Many games are refused even 18+ classification. We're not allowed to view this material - it is censored. Anyone caught importing it can be prosecuted.

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    PS: The transformation is now complete. You've become what you intended to avoid. You're just as antithetical to liberty as the progressives, if not substantially more so.
     
  5. LoneLaugher

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    Actually, he was revisiting the tired argument that we should not regulate guns. He issued a failed attempt at sarcasm. He was, in a very awkward and unconvincing way, saying that progressives are not likely to call for a ban on video games......just like they don't call for a ban on knives or automobiles.

    It is a thread fail.....and your misunderstanding his intent is understandable given how poorly it was communicated.

    It is funny, though......that your take on it was verified by a few "conservatives" who have, in fact, blamed the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing video game. And then there is the genius ( who Johnny Mayo has eviscerated, by the way ) who thinks the 8 year old understood what he was doing.

    Fun stuff.
     
  6. RP12

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    "In a release from the Sheriff's Office, it says although the child initially told investigators that he accidentally shot Smothers while playing with a firearm, the investigation has led them to believe the child intentionally shot her. Smothers was shot in the back of the head while she was in the living room watching television."

    Guess you missed that part.
     
  7. LoneLaugher

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    You think the kid understood what he was doing too huh?
     
  8. RP12

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    I dont have the evidence that the Sheriff's do... They seem to think so. I'd imagine some 8 year olds understand death if anyone close to them died recently or a family pet.
     
  9. Mac-7

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    We have not heard the last of this little psychopath, .
     
  10. conhog

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    Any 8 year old whos grown up on a farm certainly understands about death. As I imagine dpes an y who have grown up in rough neigbborboods.
     
  11. mister magoo

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    There is a group of 8 year olds who play on their scooters and their peddle cars across the road from
    where I live...whilst their mother watches them from her spot on the patio....
    Spot the difference....
    I think that any one of these kids would know if they picked up a gun and fired it at the head of someone
    it would result in the death of that person...of course the kid knew what he was doing...
    But tell me this....why are the kids across the road playing happily,.... yet the kid in America has just finished playing a
    violent video game, and then kills his grandmother with a hand gun.....
    Something is just not right in America....whose minding the kids...whose parenting the kids...
    And then they get bored as teenagers, they shoot a jogger, or bash up a 89yo WWII vet.....
    Is there a pattern here.........
    Its about time that Obama,....or someone....stopped sitting on their hands....
    Whens the next school massacre..........
     
  12. Micketto

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    That's the thing... they have been rated for a while now.

    It's an irresponsible parent who buys these for their kids.
    Or an irresponsible 90 year old sitter who let's an 8 year old play it.

    [​IMG]

    Hard to see it but the M(17+) means "Mature players only".... and then explains what's in the game.

    In this case:
    Intense Violence
    Partial Nudity
    Strong Language
    Strong Sexual Content
    Use of Drugs and Alcohol


    Great entertainment for an 8 year old.
     
  13. Micketto

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    The gun owner is now dead. There is no one to prosecute.
    At least it was the irresponsible gun owner who fell victim to it.... and not someone innocent.
     
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    So was the lady white?
     
  15. smallblue

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    Am I the only one who thinks the biggest issue here is how an 8 year old got his hands on a firearm. . .?
     
  16. JohnnyMo

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    You are not he only one.
     
  17. Micketto

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    I don't think so, no.

    But it's been explained.

    The 90 yr old victim left it out, irresponsibly.

    She screwed up, and luckily it was only her who paid for it.
     
  18. Subdermal

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    That's a serious issue, to be sure.

    The most provocative issue here, however, is the psychopathy of the 8 year old to aim and pull the trigger and kill granny.
     
  19. Junkieturtle

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    DonGlock, this is rubbish, even for you.

    The only thing in that article, THE ONLY THING, that even has any relevance to the video game, is that the kid was playing it. That's it. You've got nothing, zip, zilch, nada, to base your accusation on.

    What about the millions of people who play those games and don't commit crimes? They don't matter? Your assessment here is like saying that every time a child kills a parent, we should blame Shakespeare's Oedipus. Suicide? BAN ROMEO AND JULIET!
     
  20. Subdermal

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    Does that matter?

    Why would you want to inject race into this topic, if race hasn't been important to this point?

    Are you afraid that your position is incapable of standing on its own without being bolstered by the intellectually dishonest race card?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yeah.

    Like those millions of people who drive after drinking without actually killing anyone.
     
  21. Micketto

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    Why is the left always so hung up on race.....
     
  22. smallblue

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    Yet I could post 100s of stories of children killing themselves or their sibblings when they got their hands of a gun without any GTA or video game involved.

    And the reason is that the children don't understand what they are doing, that when they shoot someone they will kill them. GTA or no GTA, it is the same end if you put a gun in the hand of a child.
     
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    The "millions of people who play those games" are almost all appropriate age.
    This was an 8 year old child, left with a 90 yr old sitter, who was likely fed video games to keep him busy to make the sitter's job easier.
    If you don't think a game made for going around getting points for killing people at random, whether with a gun or a car or a baseball bat, specifically made for people 17 and over.... could affect the mind of an 8 yr old, you're delusional.

    I'm not blaming the game, I am blaming the child and the irresponsible availability of a gun.

    But the idea that an 8 yr old thinking killing someone is harmless, because it's "just a game", has already been found to be a problem for certain people to discern a difference between those games and reality. The idea of "killing" gets watered down.


    The irony of this woman letting the 8 yr old play this violent game, leaving a gun out, and dying because of it is priceless.
     
  24. Junkieturtle

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    That's hardly the same. Was this kid drunk or on drugs? Do you have any evidence to correlate this crime other than the coincidence that the game was being played? Do you know anything else about this kids life?

    Of course not. You and the others here making this case are using the following logic.

    Liberals say video games don't hurt you. Kid was playing video game. Must say video game is responsible because liberal opinion is the opposite.

    Don't you ever get tired of basing your opinions on whatever the opposite of a liberal view is? Do you think for yourself?
     
  25. Subdermal

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    It is the position of the OP - and people like me - that such forms of 'entertainment' desensitize - and in the process, dehumanize - children, which degrades their morality and leads to more incidents such as this.

    We offer by way of evidence the circumstantial evidence of the type of life this child was leading, including being allowed to play a game of the type which people like me accuse of being part of the problem.

    The driving after drinking analogy was offered to counter your ridiculous defense of the notion that something harmful should be tolerated merely because everyone doesn't fall victim to it.

    Ban Romeo and Juliet is just such an example of stupidity, and does far more to excuse the violence and dehumanizing aspect of affecting children while they're mouldable than it does to even approach making a valid point.
     

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