Texas Pastafarian Wins Battle At DMV, Is First In U.S. To Wear 'Hat' In License Photo

Now atheists are those who believe in a deity and follow the religion of that deity?

Conservatives are getting desperate.

 

You're taking up for a guy who openly says he worships a spaghetti monster and you're saying conservatives are desperate? Good luck with that.

 

Which holds as much weight as the Mormon deity or the Baptist deity or the Jewish deity or the Hindu deities.

Again, you conservatives trying desperately to make one ridiculous sounding religion seem less legitimate than your own ridiculous religion because it paints you in a bad light is hilarious. Just as calling someone who believes in a Pasta deity an "atheist", defying the very definition of the word, to deflect from your own inability to argue without making your own beliefs sound just as absurd is hilarious.

Like I said, you conservatives are getting desperate.

 

Yes, why would they try to pick apart the almighty spaghetti monster when they know he is as realistic as god? It is much easier to attack the religious person rather than the religion because all religions are fairly equal in their fantasies. I find it funny that people call athiests bigots and hateful when they target the religion and not the person, but when they target a person who is athiest or pastafarian, all is good in religious utopia land.

 

What the heck is a Pastafarian?

This guy is as messed up as Miley Cyrus.

 

Yes, neither fits into your nice little box of utopia land. They are not members of your church so why worry about what they do?

 

Do Christians ever "stir things up"?

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Prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist. Go ahead....PROVE it.

 

That picture wasn't taken by the MDV. So we can assume that our squirming Soros troll agent_286 isn't totally honest.

 

Are you actually trying to say that atheists don't use the flying spaghetti monster arguement? They're the only ones who use it so yes, this false religion is an atheist one. Obviously the desperation is coming from you if you're really trying to pretend that it's not them. So don't talk to me about my "inablility to argue" when you have to pretend that you don't know who these people really are. You don't have to like me or agree with me but don't act like I'm stupid. It's insulting.

Furthermore the pastafarian was set up to intentionally make fun of organized religion. Why should I take anyone serious who deliberately seeks to insult other people? It's reasons like this that I have very little tolerance for atheists. They claim to be of superior morality and intellect and then seek to convert people by making fun of them. Not sure what kind of logic that is but it's certainly broken. I may not subscribe to any religion but I certainly prefer it over atheism, which by the way includes the pastafarian religion as much as you want to pretend otherwise.

 

I attack the spaghetti monster because they don't actually believe in it. The religion was set up as a mockery to other religions. As an agnostic I don't see why I should back them up over organized religion. But please, keep telling me what it is I'm doing and why.

 

It is not my place or your place to judge the validity of their religion or the seriousness of their beliefs. This is the united states and we ALL have the right to practice our religions no matter how outlandish or offensive. Saying you dislike them because of their motivation for religion does not make it OK. I know a couple of guys who practice christianity to pick up women, I see that as their choice, everyone has differing reasons they were led to their religion of choice and a spaghetti monster worshiper is no different, especially legally as we have seen.

 

What's that that they say, you can't disprove a negative? How about that, I guess that's proof in of itself. And I call christians out when they do stir things up. You see, I'm consistent unlike some people on here.

 

You shouldnt back them up over organized religion. You should extend the same courtesy to both. Let people have their own beliefs and allow them fair treatment and protections under the laws regardless of their religious motivations.

 

We both know why this was created and you continuing to pretend otherwise does not change that. So like I said, quit pretending I'm stupid. If you can't then don't even bother replying to my comments because you're not looking for an honest debate.

 

I do try to treat them equally, which I'll freely admit to failing at on numerous times. But that is also why I apoligized earlier to atheists who just live and let live. Those are the kind of people I can respect. I don't need in your face propaganda. That extends to religion as well. And people are free to believe what they want, just be respectful about it.

 

I am not pretending you are stupid, I also do not think they really believe in a spaghetti monster. I am a non believer but believe strongly in the protection of religious liberties and understand that these liberties need to be done 100% equally. If we allow bias because one is more ridiculous than the others that is the beginning of the end and the beginning of a state church. We were founded partially to get away from this type of persecution and early settlers came here to get away from religious persecution.

 

I want to thank you for the honesty and integrity to come forward like that. Those are the traits that make a good person into a great one in my opinion.

I fully agree that people are allowed to believe what they want. My issue was with the fact that these people who were involved did it to poke fun at others. I have a low tolerence for disrespect. For myself and others. I believe equality won't come from a religious world or a religion free world, but one where we can learn to accept the differences of others and take them for who they are. That begins with each individual making that choice.

 

Bull****,it's a rejection of religion using silliness.

 

Seems the point wasn't that any religious groups got 'butthurt',but that the Texas DMV wouldn't let the man wear a kitchen utensil on his head,texas does allow duly regognized headgear from legitimate,established religions,and a pasta strainer ain't one of them....It would be like someone wearing an old fashioned open face football helmet and calling themselves a 'footballist'

 

I agree on the concept of your stance. I unfortunately believe that many athiest have begun to push the envelope because they are tired of other peoples religious beliefs being pushed into their lives. They are not out physically attacking those that they are fed up with, they are using their freedoms and the laws to fight them. While I may even get annoyed with some of their tactics(not usually though) I can respect the path that they take in order to fight for what they believe in which is a freedom from religion and not a spaghetti monster. I think a person should be able to be passionate about disbelief just as they can about belief. I am not an athiest as I reject it as a "religion" of sorts. I am a non believer who fully respects a religious persons rights and I do not wish to stifle those rights as long as they are not pushing their beliefs or morals on society. The problem is that by organizing religion they must push those beliefs on others in order to further their voice, size, power, and financial well being.

 

What,athiests aren't allowed to say 'No,thank you?'

 

A simple no thank you does not always resolve the situation. What religious person could not just ignore a story about some guys drivers license picture? Why do they have to take offense to his personal identification picture?

 

Where in the story did it say any 'religious people' took offense?..the state has guidelines,and they felt he didn't meet them.

 

I didnt say the people in the story took offense. People on this thread have. I thought the state did feel he met the guidelines, hence his photo ID with the picture. Not all of the state agreed with him but obviously he won the argument.

 

I think this guy has a screw lose.

Some people may not want to be Christians and dedicate their lives to Christ.

There is a very big world other there for non believers to frolic in without picking fights with those who do believe.

Why does the fact that Christians exist bother someone like this so much?

Because he's sick and like Miley Cyrus crying out for help.