Ariel Castro was recently sentenced to 1,000 years for kidnap and rape... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-horrific-abuse-Ariel-Castro-sentenced.html Lots of photos in the above link, as you can see the house is not heavily modified. This case makes my BS meter go off the scale, I find it very hard to believe that one man can kidnap 3 grown women and hold them hostage for so long in just a normal suburban house, etspecially when he regularly leaves them alone because he holds down a job. An absolutely soundproof and inescapable dungeon would be a minimal requirement, but he seems to have just held them upstairs in a boarded up (*)(*)(*)(*)hole of a house. The house has neighbours close by, I have people three houses down from me who have regular screaming matches and I can hear them from my place. I consider it would be nigh on logistically impossible to hold three women captive for 10 years in a crappy suburban house with just a few chains and boards on some windows. It is looking more and more like a complete fabrication, all the information is that Ariel Castro lived a regular outgoing life, he held down a job for most of the time, he was a regular church goer, he was in a band.... ...therefore he would have been very reliant on an inescapable imprisonment and absolute soundproofing to pull this off, yet his house is less of a fortress than an average house as it is a semi derelict timber framed (*)(*)(*)(*)hole, it has close neighbours, and it has no soundproofing.....AND... ...MOST DAMNING OF ALL.... It appears as though when the women were found they were not chained or even in locked rooms, the two upstairs came out of their rooms to meet police. http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=0CT4WYuXQ3k The vid is worth watching just for the fake emotion of the cops lol. How fanciful can a story get before the public reject it? On a lighter note, below is a remix of one of the rescuers, it's very funny, very catchy, and very clever.. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4&desktop_uri=/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4 And yes, those are his words used lol.
There is no overt reason I can see, but that is no detriment to establishing the story is fake. The story simply doesn't stand on its own legs, not even close. This story saturated the news for several days, I suspect a distraction was deemed needed for some reason. I once saw a doco on when Fugimori was in power in Peru, when they wanted to make 'disappearances' happen the complicit media would report a sighting of the virgin Mary, this story would dominate the news for days while they rounded up trade unionists and other dissenters. Please note that I arm not suggesting disappearances occurred on this occassion, i have no idea why they ran this fake story, I am using the Peru example to show that using fake media stories to distract the public has a historical precedence. I recall being bemused and thinking they could never get away with such nonsense in the Western media, but I now think we are as gullible and easily controlled by our media as any society ever has been. We should all be wary of any stories that dominate and distract the complicit media for days, especially if they don't ring true.
Yes it is. Your reason for presuming it's a fake is that you don't believe there is any logical reason for it to be real. If there's also no logical reason for it to be faked though, your presumption is no improvement. I've not dug in to the depths of this case myself but on general principal, I have more faith in the entirety of the international media and the US legal system to get to the facts than a random guy on an internet forum scanning a UK tabloid article and a YouTube video. You'd need to present some actual positive evidence supporting something other than the sequence of events presented at trial to give your hypothesis any credit.
What sort of a nonsense statement is that? Not knowing why a lie is being told does not stop someone from determining it is a lie. So you are not prepared to look at the evidence and trust the media completely, brilliant, thanks for your valuable contribution to this thread. The UK article was referenced solely for the photographs of the interior off the house, these were presented in court and are valid evidence, the youtube video is the sworn statement of the first police on the scene, these statements are valid evidence. The guy is supposed to have held three women against their will for ten years, he held down a job for most of that period meaning he would have left them alone thousands of times for several hours each time, the house is a derelict wooden (*)(*)(*)(*)hole with no soundproofing, the house has neighbours very close by... ...apart from the fact that the house was not heavily engineered as a fortress, apart from the fact that when police found the women upstairs they were not chained up nor even in locked rooms, apart from all the questions of why they couldn't escape from such a poorly constructed prison, the simple truth is that all the women had to do was scream to get rescued and they had thousands of opportunities to do that. It is impossible that those women were held against their will in that house for ten years, but hey, let's just all ignore common sense and go along with any make believe story our media feeds us, no matter how fanciful.
Excellent thread. I started one on this topic the very day the MSM dropped this fabrication on us. My theory: These girls were looking for drugs. They were runaways. After about ten years, he couldn't afford to pay for their drug habit. They got pissed, and framed him up, saying he "kidnapped" them. Healthy strong vibrant teenage girls. In a crumbling crack house. He might very well have been a sexual predator, and he probably convinced them to come be with him, and promised them drugs. We can clearly see these girls were little drugee skanks at age 16 and 17, from their pictures. Face peircings, weave-style hooker hair styles, tattoos. Little pigs. Plus, the MSM gets to use the story to perpetuate other social stigmas and stereotypes. Its all fake. That's definite. - - - Updated - - - Excellent thread. I started one on this topic the very day the MSM dropped this fabrication on us. My theory: These girls were looking for drugs. They were runaways. After about ten years, he couldn't afford to pay for their drug habit. They got pissed, and framed him up, saying he "kidnapped" them. Healthy strong vibrant teenage girls. In a crumbling crack house. He might very well have been a sexual predator, and he probably convinced them to come be with him, and promised them drugs. We can clearly see these girls were little drugee skanks at age 16 and 17, from their pictures. Face peircings, weave-style hooker hair styles, tattoos. Little pigs. Plus, the MSM gets to use the story to perpetuate other social stigmas and stereotypes. Its all fake. That's definite.
I don't believe the girls could have been in that house, even volunteerily, for ten years, without neighbours being fully aware they were living there. It would take extreme disciplin for them not to be seen or heard, maybe they could do it for a few weeks if they really tried, but for ten years - impossible, not to mention giving birth and raising a child in the house also. If it was some sort of a crack house the whole neighbourhood would be aware, drugees aren't the most disciplined of people. The only thing that makes sense is that they were not in the house for that period at all, and they were just brought there for this little stage show. I'm even starting to wonder if Gina Dejesus is the same girl who went missing. This article says she didn't recognise her home and asked for a tour: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gina-dejesus-finally-home-article-1.1338420 This next reporter says she looks nothing like her composite (wtf, I thought they were photos of her), and that she no longer understands Spanish. http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=Id43g_DBGf4 Either way it's still a hoax.
The hoax may serve some local legislative purpose, concerning some particular subsection of law centered around abduction or rape victims. Or something along those lines. Local cleveland county govt is trying to establish some sort of precedence. It probably comes down to an issue about funding some new department in law enforcement, at tax payers expense. They needed this case as an "example".
There have to be facts, and it's easy to make an emotional judgement, the story is relevant to many social issues. That's simple enough, doesn't necessarily have to be fake. Beyond that, spin makes it out to be whatever people want. I want for all the county governments in the state to go totally bankrupt, their offices demolished, and for the townships to be liberated. I do not wish for some (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) control freak Ariel Castro to be the whipping boy for corruption then carry on status quo, either. Spin away.
I have started a blog on this, it's not fully referenced yet but it provides two new bits of important information. One is that Ariel Castro had a police incident report put on his file one month before Gina DeJesus went missing, and that report had offences such as "abduction" and "kidnapping" on it. The second thing is that Onil Castro has darkened skin above his left eye which matches the FBI sketch of a "person of interest", had the sketch been publicised the police would have been inundated with calls about Onil. http://anywho.simplesite.com/ It is clear the original hoax was supposed to be the three brothers like we were initially told, and it is clear if this were a real kidnapping that the police would have solved this case with their eyes shut. And it is clear that house could not have held these women for so long.
Ariel Castro found dead in cell... US Kidnapper of Three Women Found Dead in Jail Cell September 04, 2013 > Prison officials in the midwestern U.S. state of Ohio say the man who held three women captive for over a decade in his home has been found dead.
