In Russia, Putin just called Kerry a liar.

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  1. Bishadi

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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/09/05/obama-kerry-putin-syria-russia-g-20/2769683/

    i think i like putin a bit more.

    How many believe that kerry lied too?

    Obama is there for the G 20 and apparently is well aware that his staff are liars.
     
  2. Abu Sina

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    No one believes the AIPAC controlled Americans these days.....................

    BRAVO Putin to say what everyone else is thinking in public
     
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    The question is about Kerry, a dude who fought in Vietnam and later was against it, and who voted against the Iraq war as a representative but as Senator voted yes... why he still is a political figure when, to me, he is showing clear after war symptoms that disqualify him for US war strategic decisions?

    To me, he actually was not lying... but he was having delusions... again...
     
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    The funny part was this raving lunatic was supposed to be the mediator in the Palestinian Peace talks 2 weeks ago that was cancelled because of the Israeli terrorist attacks in West Bank

    As usual total American hypocrisy on show to the world!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putin has been applying complete rhetorical ownage over the USA for years now. Of course, the US position is that idiotic and hypocritical that verbal victory is like ducks in a barrel.

    You name it. First the Magnitsky Act, however you spell it, and subsequent adoption to America ban, and then the Snowden affair, and now this.

    These leaders are humiliating the USA and eroding a once proud reputation.

    He has proof of Assad's guilt in the chem attack, yet can't share it, not even with the UN Security Council who are the very ones he needs to be convincing?!??!

    Do they REALLY think the world is that stupid? The only country successfully suckered is France!
     
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    Have you ever seen Galaxy Quest?
     
  8. Bishadi

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    That idiots dont mind having liars, as their leaders; that's the news!

    I aint an idiot and suggest condeming the liar with no IMPUNITY!
     
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    Kerry's father was a liar: to hide his Jewishness... the coward renamed his family from the famous Irish county.
     
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    I agree Kerry is a liar and sadly our foreign policy has been pretty bad lately.

    But Putin isn't really the model of truth himself. You know, him and his 46 lb fish.
     
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    Putin would be the expert on this topic.

    I don't doubt that they're both liars.
     
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    Hussein Obama is a liar, so it's no surprise Kerry is a liar, too.


    As for Putin, I'm sure he is a liar as well.
     
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    Hmmm. that explains a lot. . wiki says :

    " Kerry's paternal grandparents, who had been born Jewish, as "Fritz Kohn" and "Ida Löwe", in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, changed their names to "Frederick and Ida Kerry" in 1900 and converted from Judaism to Roman Catholicism in 1901[ or 1902.[8] Fritz' elder brother Otto had earlier, in 1887[ or 1896,[ also embraced Catholicism. The "Kerry" name, widely misinterpreted as indicative of Irish heritage, was reputedly selected arbitrarily: "
    Leaving their hometown Mödling, a suburb of Vienna where they had lived since 1896, Fred and Ida, together with their son Eric, emigrated to the United States in 1905, living at first in Chicago and eventually moving to Brookline, Massachusetts, by 1915.


    He'll qualify to apply for Israeli citizenship - reight of return , with more rights there than any Palestinian - wot ?

    ------ Funny , he looks more Irish than Jewish , ( Joke - wink)

    ...
     
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    Putin may be a liar, but at least he has thr testicular fortitude to publicly say what most conservative Americans are thinking.

    UFC 150: Putin vs Kerry!
     
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    I don't speak Russian, but I watch a video of Putin speaking to some official looking council seated in a very luxurious golden boardroom, and reading his body language he seems more honest to me than this constitutional theater they have with Kerry's pitch to the Congress. It just does. Makes me wonder if the Secretary of State thinks he's the President, that is disconcerting, especially when Biden is the president of the Senate, why isn't Biden running the show down there? Why isn't Kerry at the UN telling his lies to the Russians, why is he up giving the run-around to Congress instead? Obama said in the rose garden he absolutely agrees that Congress gets a vote, why are this still giving some mixed message to Rand Paul? Obama's leadership problem, after Boston nothing will surprise me, best get out with it ahead of the curve before it's WWIII just to cover somebody's ass for lying to Congress, I swear to God.
     
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    I find it interesting that in a post about an American government official's lies, there has been no discussion about what the "lie" apparently was. Is it about who released the sarin gas? Is it about the real motivation of the US in entering the Syrian fray? Is it about whether Kerry prefers boxers or briefs?

    No, its about who makes up the "rebels."

    From Reuters

    In a second hearing on Wednesday, Kerry was challenged by Representative Michael McCaul, Texas Republican.

    "Who are the rebel forces? Who are they? I ask that in my briefings all the time," McCaul said. "And every time I get briefed on this it gets worse and worse, because the majority now of these rebel forces - and I say majority now - are radical Islamists pouring in from all over the world."

    Kerry replied: "I just don't agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That's not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists ... Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

    "There is a real moderate opposition that exists. General Idriss is running the military arm of that," Kerry continued, referring to General Salim Idriss, head of the rebel Free Syrian Army. Increasingly, he said, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states are funneling assistance through Idriss.

    Kerry cited an article by Elizabeth O'Bagy, an analyst with the Institute for the Study of War think tank, in which she wrote that Islamic extremist factions are not "spearheading the fight against the Syrian government," but rather that the struggle is being led by "moderate opposition forces."

    Several leading lawmakers, including Senator John McCain, Arizona Republican, also have said there is a viable moderate opposition in Syria that Washington should support.

    U.S. intelligence sources do not dispute that Islamic extremists are in the minority on the battlefield.

    "Most of the groups battling against Assad are composed of Islamist fighters, but only a small minority could accurately be characterized as extremist," one U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

    But a second official, who also asked not to be named, said moderate rebels may have lost strength rather than gained it in recent months. Due to their relative lack of weapons and organization, they are beginning to make alliances with better-armed Islamic radicals, whom they see pursuing more effective actions against Assad's forces, the official said.


    Anyone have any proof that al Qaeda makes up more than 15-25% of the Syrian rebel forces?
     
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    The United States Secretary of State has been completely discredited no matter which regime he represents for a along time, and especially since this Secretary confessed that the USA deliberately, with malice in mind, starve to death over 500,000 children and consider it "worth the price" especially since it was the kids and their parents that paid the price.
    Here she is, and she got a Medal of Freedom for it:
    [video=youtube;omnskeu-puE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE[/video]
     
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    If President Putin told a lie, he told it to the liar USA war crazies.

    Then there's McCain, the guy who spent 8 years going crazy in a pit in Vietnam, almost single handily sunk a US aircraft carrier, constantly spouting every NEO-CON lie, and traveling to Syria to meet with his Allah-wa-Akhbar terrorist friends taking a break from torturing and killing the Syrian people.
     
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    "These leaders", and it is a long list, Israel, France, Britain, Germany, Russia and even Canada are fed up with Obama/Kerry/Clinton and their crap.

    They are not the ones doing the embarrassing, it's Obama. And as far as the Snowden affair is concerned, well that kid made a laughing stock of the "the one", the most powerful man in the world is powerless against a kid who likes truth. Sorry, but the Us of A came away as a mean-spirited, petulant, powerless bully on that one....
     
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    They should rename the G20 Summit as the G20 CampFire, as probably all the participating leaders are liars as well.

    It's just at this meeting, Putin is the Fire Chief
     
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    like Michael Corleone
     
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    everyone has skeletons in the closet.

    On this matter of war, upon a taco stand that is supposedly, russia's only one (naval base) outside of russia, is it prudent to mislead 'the world?. ie.. the world is watching.

    Maybe that taco stand has hot rockets on the menu and they 'cannot' let it go.

    Any more dolphins dying on the coastlines?

    .
     
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    IMO _ no worse than most of America's current + former Presidents.


    However , you've got a point , Putin is certainly capable (mano a mano ) of kicking the $hit out of any of your political leaders. Especially the ones who have no hesitation in sending sons of other americans to die for them in foreign lands .

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