Actual experience belies your ideological dogma, and your wish to perpetuate what is, by far, the most expensive system on earth where tens of millions are uninsured and others covered under employer-administered plans enjoy a $250 billion annual subsidy is indefensible. According to a recent Massachusetts Medical Society poll, the vast majority of those already covered by an individually-mandated, universal plan are happy with their health care nearly a decade after Romneycare’s implementation. In Massachusetts, 4.5% are uninsured. In Texas, 28.8% are uninsured. The uninsured are far more likely to seek care at a hospital emergency room since they do not have a family physician, and those costs are dumped on the taxpayer. As Willard said, that's a very bad idea. Personal responsibility is, according to him, a conservative one. .
You libs are in la la land. You have your own made up wishful thinking spin world. Do you remember the 2010 elections? Don't you realize that the electorate is now not only pissed of about this crap law even more once it has learned a few things about. Not only that, but voters that have to pay for all this crap no longer trust or want anything to do with mandates coming out of Washington D.C. Any Liberal plus any RINO that goes along with any of these government programs is toast. (Except for New York and California of course.) We have had enough. It is time for a big change. Obama's veto pen is going to be smoking for his last two years.
If the voters were so ticked off over ObamaCare in 2010, what happened in 2012? Obama got re-elected, remember, in the only poll that really counts.... That's despite Obamacare, Fast and Furious, Benghazi and lingering questions about the so-called Hawaiian BC........ Just what is going to move the 2014 polls that wasn't already there in 2012, when Obama trounced Romney.....
Considering the train wreck called Obama its cute that leftwingers are predicting the downfall of the GOP. You should probably consider concentrating on giving your own Democratic Party leadership an ethical and intellectual series of enemas, clean up your house, so to speak . . . and cease worrying over the Republican Party. It's a glass house and rocks and also a casting the first stone set of scenarios. Obama as president? Sheesh! What were you thinking?!
Nice try? If you are a knowledgeable and honest progressive, you know exactly what the real answer to that question is. Nationwide, State Election Boards are feverishly working on purging voter lists of millions of dead people, illegal aliens, college student duplicate voters and other replacement voters and irregularities that made the 2012 election a farce. Voter I.D. laws are being implemented and Conservative poll watchers will be on station and will not be fooled or intimidated again.
And if people don't believe that, Tinkerbelle will die.... Seriously, you actually believe that millions of illegal votes get cast, and no one knows a thing about any of it because everyone can keep a secret and no one gets caught....
The same sillies who were arrogantly predicting their Willard (the original individually-mandated universal coverage dude) would win in a landslide in 2012 are now getting pissy about his successful plan being adopted nationally even though he wasn't. Go figure. Obviously, there are savvy pragmatists who recognize the obvious: that several advanced nations enjoy superior care for all at half the cost, but nationalized WillardCare was the best that was possible, and the dogmatic ideologues offer no viable alternative.
The divide in the GOP is refreshingly different then any divide of previous years. Civil Liberties vs Security As old a conflict as there is in the organization of people. (so wise I scare myself ) The vulnerable Democratic votes are the educated, wealthier Democrats who have been disappointed by the Obama presidency and the Democratic Party's standard, Pelosi, Feinstein style Liberals who support the bombing of Syria too. Rand Paul calls them Blue Republicans along the coasts that he feels he can lure away from voting Democratic. I agree the Democratic Party is hiding some deep fractures over the Obama presidency that have yet to be expressed. Should Rand Paul, M.D. be the GOP's candidate, I do believe he could win via his appeal to Blue Democrats. Should a Republican ideologue be nominated, no such luck. Even against (Lord forbid) Hillary. Moi 2016 and '14 too. Opt out of RepubloCratism. Support the Third Party of your choice. Exceptions: Elizabeth Warren Ran Paul Jerry Brown
It's demographics, The GOP does very well with old white men, extremely well, but that is a shrinking demographic, and the GOP does poorly with the demographics that are growing.
This is a broad presumptive piece of folklore. It becomes true with the regurgitation, like too many "truths". Obama's a Socialist. Duh-uh, a Socialist would have National Health Care, NOT a requirement you purchase health insurance from a private, for profit Health Insurance mafia, inc. It is based on the behavior of Jewish minorities and of course the Black pattern of voting. You may find Muslims, Asians, and Latinos are not so dedicated to the Democratic Wing of the RepubloCratic Party as Jewish and Black voters on whom who or whoms your piece of folklore is based. Respectfully Moi
Yes that is exactly what I mean. Why would it be a stretch to say there might be as many as 3 to 4 million illegal votes in just one of the illegal voting blocks I mentioned when we know SSA sends out hundreds of thousands of employers "Mismatch" letters asking information about 10 million bogus numbers. Why did North Carolina find over 2500 names on there voters lists with people over 110 years old that voted absentee or 99% turn outs in hundreds of inner city precincts going 99% for Obama. On and On and On and On. I could go on for months listing all the irregularities. I am used to liberals getting extremely mad and defensive when they have to lie about this issue. They know it is the backbone of their corrupt system of government and will lie, cheat and do anything to protect it.
The regional bias coupled with the ten least-educated states voting solidly Republican in national elections allows them to hang on, but he principle divide in the GOP is between those who recognize the demographic reality and have an existential concern that disposes them to wish to appeal to the electorate, and the hardcore ideological zealots who would rather rage against the ineluctable tide and take a much-needed bath in 2016. They clearly have a rendezvous with dysentery.
It's not a stretch to say it. Hell, you could say 60 million if it struck your fancy. Presenting evidence that such a nutty conspiracy theory is true is the catch. .
The 10 million bogus Social Security Card numbers is fact. Look it up under "Mismatch" SS#'s. A Social Security number gets you a mortgage or a rental agreement hence an address in a voting district which allows them to register. You going to sit and tell me that many of these people aren't voting? Their kids are already in the schools where their polling places are. 3 million such votes is certainly not a stretch. Like I said, the liberals I talk to about this know it is true but they hit the ceiling and get extremely hostile. Like a criminal gets mad when they get caught.
Yes, you clearly find all those "liberals" that infest your head terribly upsetting, I'm sure, and whilst your imagining millions and millions of illegal voters all casting their ballots in a manner that gets you in such a tizzy does make you appear quite doolally, if you had to rely upon the very rare instances of misrepresentation that have actually been documented, it would still make you appear bonkers because elections cannot be perverted by just those very few real instances. With some conspiracy fantasies, you just can't win. So, we pretend that the NRC and Republican Attorneys General throughout the land are aware of this vast and pervasive perversion of US elections and all blithely ignore it. What bloody cheek! Oh wait! We nabbed the dastards!
If it isn't occurring, then surely you won't mind a more stringent process to determine voter eligibility? Eh?
Will it be applied equally to all, or just "some" as has been your tradition with these efforts. If one is registered anywhere via enhanced verification at any time - that record should serve them for life. This will avoid 70 year olds being required to produce documents although they were registered to vote elsewhere. Agree ? Once verified, YOU are verified and eligible to register anywhere elections are held. Ok? How about a new thread on the above ? NOW to get back to topicalness of this thread I still maintain the Democratic voters who are paying a mortgage on their home and struggling to meet ObamaCare Health Insurance Premium payments are going to abandon the Democratic Party unless the GOP runs an absurdity such as Gingrich. Truly, Rand Paul is the best avenue to a GOP win of the White House. Anti-NSA, Anti-Bomb Syria, etc. Dr. Paul holds many positions "dear" to the above mentioned Democratic voters. Recently, Obama has "pissed off" the Unions who wanted privileges, not taxes under ObamaCare. The Democratic Wing of the RepubloCratic Party is the wing that should be scrambling to find their message in a Post Obama Presidency time. Obamanomics, NSA, warism and the rest of his Presidency has successfully alienated too much of the Dems "middle class" and "working poor" support. The GOP being a minority party has less to lose. They are elected via the unaffiliated voters or Democrats ignored by the Party. Moi
To the first point, verification has to be ongoing, because we don't allow felons and such to vote. It's no big deal. A cop can pull you over for speeding and know everything about you in 5 minutes. To your other point, I am convinced that Rand Paul will be the next President of the United States. We are all tired of this partisan nonsense. He's as close to the real deal as we are going to find in Washington. He'll probably be assassinated, of course.
If the GOP does nominate Rand Paul, and that's 100 to 1 shot, he fails to get 40% of the vote vs Hillary.....
Really, so the Latino voters that the GOP is trying so hard to disenfranchise with voter ID laws are going to flock to the GOP, attracted perhaps by the racist slurs the GOP uses in the immigration debate....
Talk to some Latinos who have been here a generation or two. They don't want their social services, like Education, diluted by illegals. Talk to them and you may even find some Republican voters. Really. Moi
Oh, you'll find some Republican voters among latinos, I know some blacks that vote Republican, and some Jews, but those demographics are voting overwhelmingly Democratic, and unless the GOP comes up with a Latino presidential nominee, maybe with a black woman VP running mate, they will continue to deliver an overwhelmingly pro-Democratic vote. So I can see Hillary or Elizabeth Warren and maybe Julian Castro or maybe Antonio Villaraigosa, and you lock up the female vote and the hispanic vote for decades, and if you put a latino at the top of the ticket, you energize the latino vote, and Texas is suddenly a Blue state.
It is Democratic folk lore that there is no American people, that we are balkanized beyond hope of unity, and that smart pols base their electoral strategies on appeals to demographic groups. So if a black Lesbian dwarf runs for President, the black Lesbian dwarf vote is a lock. This strategy has always worked. Democrats were the party that patronized immigrant groups, as far back as the 19th century. The patronage was literal, with big city Dem bosses handing out patronage jobs in return for political support. Republicans usually appealed to the national interest, a much harder sell. But perhaps things are changing. People are much better informed than they once were. The internet and computer technology, as well as TV, make it faster and easier for people to access mainstream culture. Improved transportation and a geographically diverse economy mean people are much less likely to cluster in ethnic enclaves under the thumb of the local Dem boss. All this means people may be less and less willing to accept that their interests are congruent with those of the Democrat party. It's easier now to see the national interest and understand how one's own interests are a part of it. Perhaps more and more people no longer wish to be taken as chumps, led by the nose. Isn't it offensive to be told, in effect, "you've got a vagina, so you must vote for any candidate with a vagina," or "you have brown skin, so you must vote for any candidate with brown skin," etc. African-Americans turned out in large numbers twice for Barack Obama. Look what it's gotten them. Democrats have done NOTHING for them, and their situation is deteriorating fast, despite Democrats cynically harvesting their votes. To the extent Democrats address African-Americans at all, it's only to whine that the troubles aren't their fault, the Republican puppy chewed up their plans. Perhaps Charlie Brown will never learn that Lucy is going to pull the football away at the last moment. If so, I foresee a brilliant future for Democrats. But if people can learn, and if they take advantage of their new opportunities to learn, they'll wise up soon to the liberal scam.
