Western Europe Go to Hell

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by EvilAztec, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. Anders Hoveland

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    How long do you think it will take to reach the heartland of Russia?

    Europe is being eaten away from the inside. Who knows what the future holds, but one thing for sure, Europe will not be the same.
    I suspect it will become a little more like Pakistan and Somalia. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to you to decide.
     
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    The United States has been dealing with serious social problems, crime, and urban decay in many cities within the last 60 years. Western Europe will soon witness these types of problems for herself. It has already begun.
     
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    The one maniac killer Breivik all the Norway Judgment system fuсk pretty well.

    "Norwegian Progress Party asks Foreign Ministry to help get rid of the stigma of the "party of Breivik's" as it was dubbed the international media after the parliamentary elections in the country of fjords. The management of "progressives" believes that such estimates were "damaging the image of the party and the country all over the world."
    http://www.kompravda.eu/online/news/1536795/
     
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    "Gali (*)(*)(*)(*)" Gali Gay - Piderast
     
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    It is already here. Visa regime with all ex-USSR countries and Japanese migration/citizenship laws is the only salvation.
    Обозвал президента Франции педарастом. За что? Он не из этих. К тому же, в европке это почти что как медаль за заслуги перед отечеством. Не поймут, дикари. Но картинка зачётная.
     
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    Я люблю Францию,просто обидно ,что мультикультура превратила эту страну в посмешище.
     
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    A lot of french faces i see on the photo of French National Football team.
     
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    Thanks to God that the negros do not tolerate frost
     
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    They're all African.

    Like Germany, the France football team has to rely on foreigners.
     
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    Don't know about the French, but I don't see guys like Özil, Klose, Gomez, Boateng or Kedhira as foreigners.
    They speak my language, some of them even my regional dialect. They are people who just do the job better than others.
     
  11. EvilAztec

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    Why i'm not surprised of your answer because you even ready to find something special in rose tones in deeds of Chikatilo.
     
  12. Vlad Ivx

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    This argument is very recurrent in people like you and it's not an argument at all because most, and I really mean most of the immigrants coming to the UK are black and Asian! They come from outside of Europe and the European Union, particularly Asia and the Middle East. This has nothing to do with the EU!!!

    The UK is a favorite political asylum for Asians and Arabs and you receive them because of international law not EU law FFS!!!! Many of them also are a result of the collapse of the British Empire but it's a British tradition to blame others for what's wrong. How many of your immigrants are with no European background? Something like 70% of them? I think more.
     
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    And be assured NONE of the Liberals, Leftists, Democrats or our MSM will breathe a word of your plight to America because they believe their own petty concerns and power hungry attempts to use that info to manipulate our citizenry is worth the price of not warning US about your struggles.

    They don't want the rest of us to learn from your situation and avoid it.

    Otherwise they'd have no petty little scheme to use to their unfair political advantage.
     
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    No they are not. The black and Asian migrants have been here since the 70's and they are British.
    And no most of our Asian population originally came from Pakistan and India also Iran.


    You do realise that I'm referring to non citizens? And if you actually took the time to look around my country you'd find that there is an overwhelming number of eastern Europeans.

    Sorry the collapse of the British Empire has very little to do with it. It's the commonwealth agreement that allowed for easy migration in the 70's that was amended in 82.

    Again I'm talking about Eurozone migrants who are no longer welcome.

    Maybe you should spend some time here in the UK and not just a couple of weeks in London and maybe you'll see first hand what I mean.

    Quite frankly I'm appalled that Eurozone migrants have the right to work, claim benefits, receive free medical care, in fact just about everything barring the right to vote.
     
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    [video=youtube;4kHl4FoK1Ys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kHl4FoK1Ys[/video]
     
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    So what about the identity of every country that including into funny pocket that called EU.You have no identity ,you have no culture traditions,you are very strange nation that ready to deny everything what happened during a long colourfull history of Western Europe
     
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    Sometimes I wonder if all this immigration is an intentional attempt to destroy national identities the member countries of the EU. One step closer to a one world government progressives want so badly.
     
  18. Vlad Ivx

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    I lived a year in your home North Yorkshire ;). Only 1 night in London but it was enough. What I've seen was just Asians and Arabs.

    Romanians and Bulgarians do not have the right to work without a permit. Even students need a permit to work part-time!! When I went there I bought health insurance from personal funds yet my university told me there was no need as all students have free access to health.
     
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    Well yes that's Yorkshire. One county of Britain. As I don't live here permanently I means that I have seen quite a bit of my country and that's why I've said that eastern Europeans make up a large number of non-citizens.

    As I've said before the Asian population has been here since the 70's and most of them are British citizens.
    Although you wouldn't think it to look at them but that does not bother me.

    That restriction is being lifted soon.
    Romanians and Bulgarians don't make up the majority of Eurozone migrants.

    Why should foreign students be allowed to work in the UK and why free healthcare?

    So I'm guessing that you went to Leeds?
     
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    YOU have freedom in your police state? Pull the other one - it's got bells on! You have the best brainwashers - I'll give you that!
     
  21. Vlad Ivx

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    And it won't make much difference. Those who had their mind set on moving there are already there (around 500,000). Those who hadn't never will even though we join Schengen. It's simple logic. Moving to another country is difficult without friends or support from there regardless of the Schengen membership. Those who don't have that can't just go to a place they've never been to, regardless of the restriction being lifted. Would you?

    If you are going to mention criminals, restriction for them has been lifted a long time ago, in 2007 - because since, only the national ID card is necessary to enter the UK. So all the criminals that were to go there are already there and the restriction being lifted won't make any difference to them since they are free to do illegal things there since 2007. Those who go there to do crime for a living don't care about work permits being lifted wouldn't you agree?

    While there is a tendency among the young to find work outside the country, they aren't as keen to work in the UK as your press says but rather in Italy and Germany (Italy being a Latin nation just like us and Germany a very welcoming place for those who are willing to work. Make sure you don't confuse Romania with Bulgaria. Far from being the same. Economic situation in Romania isn't as bad as there.


    Are you joking? Tuition fees are 9000 a year. Highest in Europe I think. Students pay back way more than they ever would receive. But it's their contribution to research that is actually priceless for British universities. Would you like it if Harvard, Princeton and others would snatch all the bright minds of the world from you with more attractive scholarships and bursaries? Apparently no. And that is the course the english higher education system has set itself onto. That's why even British students who afford to study in their own country is dropping. The mentality there is that the govt is doing the foreign students a favor even though taxes suggest it's the other way around.

    And when I say research I mean research. Adding to the knowledge of that university. Not just entering some stupid university just for a paper BSc or BA certificate and do nothing there. Few of the UK universities are still real universities, like everywhere in the world. Most just teach you what to think, just to sell you some degree to get your money and that's it. University of York is still different, still believes in real research. But it too won't last for much longer. Take the case of Cambridge. It's nothing of what it once was. It's become a famous luxury store that sells highly valuable degree certificates to kids of communist Chinese government officials who spend thousands a day as pocket change - that being just one example but essentially to literally the richest of the world whose offspring is usually brainless.

    As you're guessing from above, the Uni of York.
     
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    I agree which is why I'm not alarmed by the lifting of those restrictions placed upon Romanians and Bulgarians.

    Actually I have and I made it work for me.

    Well I haven't actually mentioned organised crime. And if they come on a tourist visa then it would not really matter because they can still infiltrate the country.
    But you can't really prevent against that which is why if Europol was actually a competent organisation then it would actually help combat it.

    That does not make sense. You pay back 10% of your income provided you make £21,000 per annum.
    So a four year degree course which costs £36,000 and you land a job which gives you between 25-30 per year. Well actually you would make more than you what you have to return provided that hold the job for a couple of years.
    Of course if you study something that is very commercial then it's going to be much of an issue.
    Well the US will always have a proportionally greater number of potentially bright students due to size as well as money involved which the UK can't realistically match.
    So if the best of the worlds minds are going to go then they will go to best place no matter what. The only way we can hope to outdo our rivals is to offer higher quality but from what I've seen, I'm a little doubtful.

    The fact of the matter is that the UK has too many graduates chasing too few jobs hence many are put off.
    Yes I agree H.E. is very much a business and as you said it's a global phenomenon. I actually have a couple of friends who went to Oxford and putting it politely I was not impressed with what they came out with and the arrogance was incredible.

    Which is why I'm planning on studying Arabic next year it being an interest as well as a commercial degree.

    Look I don't actually blame Eurozone migrants from coming to the UK. In fact I blame the Great British public for their lack of interest and apathy in British politics and this in turn has manifested itself into government in general. I mean just look at the disaster of nearly 10 years of labour govt. I think Blair ought to be brought on charges of treason.

    But the fact is the UK economy is not particularly robust and that without economic protectionism we won't be able to put the UK into profit.
    And unfortunately alot of work that could be done by willing and eager unemployed people in the UK has been replaced by people from Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Spain France, Portugal and even your own countrymen.
    And it is simply because they are cheaper. Having worked in places which have hired half of the above I can say that they are sloppy workers with poor discipline.
    Well no. You've already told me so I don't have to guess. York is kind of nice, pretty expensive though.
     
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    Europol only assists the national police of member states in their investigations. It does not have the right to act independently across member states. This might be why they can't do more about crimes across the Union. Its staff numbers are low too. The EU still lack the proper institutions for a practical Europol.

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    That's very nice. Are you going to go to an Arab country for that purpose?

    Where?

    I didn't get a chance to comprehend the extent of people's interest in politics.

    Migrants would no longer be a problem if your politicians did something to suspend the benefits, not directly because it might not be possible but find a loophole and make policies that would give the economic conditions at least a push to tilt things towards a more balanced situation on the labor market. I did sense some political apathy indeed while there. When there's a will there's a way. Sum that up with the aging, rigid, inconsistency-defined administrative system and you get a bad organism indeed. Also as you say, rather blame the British employers first because the decision is theirs. From your perspective you might call THEM traitors. It's their responsibility.

    But who's going to change that? Who will establish better awareness? Will it be UKIP? Are you gonna give them the vote in 2015?


    As you say it often is a magnet for workers and collaborations even from developed countries like France or Spain. They are cheaper from your perspective because it is the British pound sterling that is more expensive. The pound can act as a magnet for certain Europeans both eastern and western. Had you been using the Euro I think the case of immigration would have been an insignificant one. Have you ever wondered whether there can be any drawbacks to this expensive currency unique to just one country? If Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand etc would be using the pound sterling then the currency would make great sense but otherwise, while it acts on certain sectors as an advantage it can act as a burden on others. Those countries will never want to adopt the currency, I think you agree.

    Germany, unlike Britain has the historical background that allows them to have an ability to absorb a seemingly limitless number of foreign workers and put them to good use in the best interest of the federal government and the German people. Britain using the Euro, rather than make the British feel beheaded would cause relief, simplifying transactions but most importantly making Germany absorb great numbers of people that otherwise would be headed your way. I know how much Britain relies on its financial center but even this, economists say, will start to migrate bit by bit to the Eurozone in time as transactions in the single currency are more advantageous, what do you think of this?
     
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    I know but constabularies in the UK particularly the extradition unit often report that info often does come through or is incomplete.
    I think that it could be a good idea on paper.

    Yes 2nd year study. Although I'm starting to wonder whether any the countries that the uni lists will be safe particularly as I might stick out a bit.

    New Zealand. Working in Christchurch and Queenstown.

    That's kind of the problem with todays culture is that there so little enthusiasm for anything. It's a shame really.
    I would call the administration in the UK cumbersome and overly complicated rather than anything else.
    Actually I remember when I applied to join the army when I was 17/18 I had to wade through a small book full of paperwork.

    Well the thing is about employers is that quite often if they think that they can get away with something then they will. But it should be the responsibility of the govt to make things easier for British workers to actually work.
    Basically we should be looking after ourselves first which does not seem to be the case.

    Well unfortunately they are the ones who actually have a policy that so many of us want. The problem with UKIP is that they have yet to mature as a party.
    But I think Cameron is getting the hint that we are pretty unhappy with the EU whether it will turn into positive action is different matter though.

    Well they are cheaper because they don't have the same commitments as most UK workers have like a mortgage for example which means that the average UK worker has a base minimum they need to earn that is higher than a migrant.

    The real advantage of the £ is the ability to buy good from overseas far more cheaply than if we adopted the Euro which for a country which has a strong services sector is extremely useful.

    Well in order for them to use the British pound they would have to apart of the British Empire.
    And most of those countries did use a currency that was pegged against the pound. But obviously things have changed and also Canada, Oz etc were and are to an extent countries that produce alot of goods so it's a good idea for them to have a currency that's cheaper so that foreigners can purchase more of their goods as opposed to buying from expensive countries.


    Well Germany has far greater space and fewer people than Britain and enjoys a stronger manufacturing sector although that apparently does not employ as many people as it used to.

    I'm not quite sure how adopting the Euro would shift the migrant attraction to Germany. Could you elaborate on that?

    The £ is still one of the most expensive currencies and like I said earlier means that our money goes further when dealing overseas.

    But I don't think staying within the Eurozone will negate the problems of immigration as well as the impairment to both the treasury and business caused by EU directives.
    The most effective way to deal with this issue would be to simply leave.
     
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    Please elaborate and substantiate, or retract this stupendous drivel.
     

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