Amos Yadlin + why bombing Damascus is important to Israel.

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yet more brilliant questions. Boy your thinking cap must have gotten a serious work out coming up with those.

    Apparently you are ignorant of the Syrian Civil War nor the effort to punish the murdering users of nerve gas nor that Syria has a sworn enemy in Israel who possess a chunk of their original land and have consistently whipped syrian arse.

    ONce again I suggest you pick up a book or visit a reasonably reliable news site. It will undoubtedly help in preventing you from making yourself looking like an ignorant, pimply teenager.




    Its been a rather popular literary theme for the past couple hundred years, so why not an album.



    I disagree.

    You can't make a stupid person smart. You can enlighten an ignorant person, but when you start with stupid you consistently end with stupid.



    now that is lame.


    Truth is not necessarily easier and has little or nothing to do with political correctness.
     
  2. Bishadi

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    good

    next step
    when did israel create its own nukes?
    the focus is on syria and israel.

    pakistan and india are a divided country because of israel

    and north korea has known all along that israel is a bigots nest of zionist pigs.

    N K is an iranian and syrian friend and assisted both with nuke technology, for years!

    Subs bring in all kinds of 'stuff'.

    How many knew how scared israel is of north korea?

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11536

    North Korea has been allied with Iran ever since Ayatollah Khomeini took power. North Korea has always been a member of the Marxist-Islamic alliance, and so it has helped Iran to obtain nuclear materials. Khomeini’s Iran began to aid Syria, and so it was natural for North Korea to add Syria to its list of Islamist allies. Therefore, North Korea built a nuclear facility in Syria. This behavior was logically consistent with North Korea’s alliance with militant Islam, but consistency does not mean practicality, nor does it reflect self-interest.

    Israel attacked this site, the al-Kibar nuclear facility, on September 6, 2007, and destroyed it. Israel naturally feared that Syria, like Iran, would be .....

    North Korea is not even near Israel, but it has directly participated in a war against it—something that not even Iran has ever done.

    North Korea’s anti-Israel actions have surpassed those of Iran



    Everyone that doesnt like israeli oppression of palestine, is automatically put on the US sheet list.
     
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    what syrian civil war?

    ie.... The Foreign Ministers of seven UN member states, notably Russia and the People's Republic of China, have met with representatives of the council, but have not recognized or supported it officially in any capacity ....


    The Free Syrian Army (Arabic: الجيش السوري الحر‎, al-Jaysh as-Sūrī al-Ḥurr, FSA) is an armed opposition structure operating in Syria since the start of the Syrian civil war.[5][6] Composed of defected Syrian Armed Forces personnel and volunteers,[7][8][9] its formation was announced on 29 July 2011 in a video released on the internet by a uniformed group of deserters from the Syrian military who called upon members of the Syrian army to defect and join them.[10] The FSA's leader in August 2011, Colonel Riad al-Asaad, announced that the FSA would work with demonstrators to bring down the regime, and declared that all security forces attacking civilians were justified targets

    the FSA "declared that all security forces attacking civilians were justified targets"

    So you could see WHY syria would hate the bigots of israel but make a claim, that they do hate them, even knowing that israel is the aggressor....?!!??!???!

    You make this fun
    gee
    You insinuated that i was bad, for 'just learning' the concept

    but you know that it exists already.

    again, you're cute
    sure you can. Teach them, so that they aint stupid (ignorant).
    So teaching children that they are 'chosen ones' by god and that they inherited a land, owned and operated by another, is stupid, ending up with stupids as their stupid kids, right?

    I know the lie misleads and why i keep trying to send you to the correct path.

    The obtuse are to selfish to check themselves.
    lies inhabit the idiot. The lie exist in the conscious experience.

    That level of comprehension is what I am trying to enable you with.
    Truth is always easier

    Identifying what is true (what is real) is what has taken so long but that is why 'no false witness' is so important. The liars keep sending people on the wrong path, and the morons are too obtuse to realize that they are 'out there'.

    If you read more with a sense of compassionate reason, you may see better (standing on the shoulders of giants); learn.
     
  4. Yetzerhara

    Yetzerhara Banned

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    Bishadi I find your anti jewish and anti Israeli comments amusing. I will respond to some of your comments.

    You asked:

    "....when did israel create its own nukes?"

    Just ask Mr. Vanunu.

    You stated:

    " the focus is on syria and israel. "

    You could have fooled me. Your comments seem to focus only on Israel and/or Jews or the U.S.

    You stated:

    "pakistan and india are a divided country because of israel"

    Of course not. You are well aware the tensions between Muslims and Hindus went on long before Israel was formed. In fact the Sieks came about as a warrior people to defend Hindus from being attacked by Muslims.

    The partition of India into 2 countries to allow Muslims to have their own country and the riots that Ghandi attempted to put down with appeals to calm what were they Bishadi?

    When you make comments like this you simply reveal your lack of credibility and wilful attempts to revise history to create a spin that scapegoats Israel and Jews for anything and everything.

    You stated:

    "..and north korea has known all along that israel is a bigots nest of zionist pigs."

    You engage in name calling and claim it is North Korea, not you doing the name calling. That kind of couching of your references doesn't
    fool anyone. Again you simply reveal yourself to be someone who come son this cite to inflamme.

    You stated:

    "How many knew how scared israel is of north korea?"

    The above comment is absurd. You project a human emotion on a state. Its this kind of referencing that simply again reveals you to be
    name calling and projecting your own emotions.

    States do not fear. It is possible certain individuals in the state who come into posession of intelligence or other knowledge may see a nation
    like North Korea as being a threat to its security but calling them fearful is silly. Such individuals assess threats using logic, psychological profiling, risk analysis. The last thing they use or rely on is emotion.

    You really think Israeli state officials sit around pissing their pants about the little fat boy in North Korea? Really?

    Israel has been surrounded by terrorists and hostile nations since prior to, during and ever since its inception.

    Do you think it would have survived if it let itself be fearful. Fear paralyzes.

    Israel has had to overcome any fear to survive.

    You mistake the collective and individual psyches of Israelis and that is probably a good thing.

    In fact if you actually understood Israelis I think that would frighten you. For many Israelis they have learned
    that when push comes to shove, they must dettach from emotions like fear and anger.

    To survive Bashidi they have had to dettach from such emotions and its probably why you are so irrational in your comments and so hateful.

    You see their lack of emotional response or fear of you as a fearful thing and thus you probably project your fear on Israelis.

    Israelis do not fear you, North Koreans, or any other boogy men you care to raise.

    I think from knowing many Israelis and working and doing other things with them, Israelis like all humans on an individual to fear the violence and evil that we have all seen lurk in the hearts of all humans and so the capacity for evil we are capable of engaging in but it is not a fear of
    North Koreans and their silly hair cuts or missiles-its a fear of our own individual's soul to stop feeling.

    I don't fear you. If anything I fear the part of me that when faced with someone like you, feels absolutely nothing.

    I think that is far too profound a concept for you to understand. You are still on a level of ineraction where you can only see the possibility of your own feelings and so you project them on North Koreans and/or others.

    Bashidi you are only in a position to talk of your own feelings and from the sounds of your couched words, you can not. The obsession with blaming Jews and Israel for everything speaks to unresolved conflicts within you that you project outwards-you externalize these feelings and turn them into Jews, Israelis or whoever the target of hatred of the day is for you.

    The above is my opinion from being face to face with many who sound like you but who have dropped their guns or bombs and run when they see their reflection in the eyes of Jews or Israelis.

    Boo.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11536

    North Korea has been allied with Iran ever since Ayatollah Khomeini took power. North Korea has always been a member of the Marxist-Islamic alliance, and so it has helped Iran to obtain nuclear materials. Khomeini’s Iran began to aid Syria, and so it was natural for North Korea to add Syria to its list of Islamist allies. Therefore, North Korea built a nuclear facility in Syria. This behavior was logically consistent with North Korea’s alliance with militant Islam, but consistency does not mean practicality, nor does it reflect self-interest.

    Israel attacked this site, the al-Kibar nuclear facility, on September 6, 2007, and destroyed it. Israel naturally feared that Syria, like Iran, would be .....

    North Korea is not even near Israel, but it has directly participated in a war against it—something that not even Iran has ever done.

    North Korea’s anti-Israel actions have surpassed those of Iran



    Everyone that doesnt like israeli oppression of palestine, is automatically put on the US sheet list.[/QUOTE]
     
  5. Bishadi

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    no
    funny...

    apparently you cant read
    zionist were terrorizing british interests and the british colonies across the region began to 'boycott' and do the peaceful negotiations and why india ended up a state far earlier. Pakistan divided as a muslim state, which ghandi tried to stop, because india was a state of many religious but israel had the 'jewish state' in the UN.
    i didnt. I point out that what anyone can read for themselves, once stepping out of the bias.
    everyone on this site knows that i hate israel for the oppression of the last 70 yrs.

    It is nothing new around here.
    i posted an article from israel, sharing that they are 'scared'

    Did you not read the material?
    Funny. Then why did israel blow up the North Korean nuke site, in syria?

    If it was not based on fear, then please, tell the forum what is was based on.

    you're pissing your pants, reading my post

    So why not?
    If people hated me, that much, i would change.
    then why are they stiring up war on the aipac site. Why would the samson option exist?
    It wont survive in its current form
    i see that israel bombed syria's nuke facility because of fear.

    Is there another answer? ie... fear is why them morons are fenced in like dogs. Fear is why the worlds airports are f'cked up.
    .

    I be the goof that their whole religious pursuit of zion is about. ie.... that temple they seek to build is in the prophecies that i will show up.
    are you name calling too....!?!?!?

    I know that fear is why they blew up the nuke facility. You just cant admit it.

    that is fearing yourself. Which is good. I aint the one to fear as truth is what wipes the stupids off the map, naturally of course!
    i posted and article that shared that israel is 'scared' on more than one level
    sure I can.
    i dont blame 'jews' and that stupidity is where you keep putting your foot in your mouth. "Jews' wouldnt be in israel under the guise of oppression. It is why there are more 'jews' not in israel, then there ever has been, in israel.

    A good 'who' dont oppress people for a belief that they have a right over another, by god!
    really!
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    late 50's early 60's.

    context

    truly ignorant statement.

    you seem to know a lot about bigots and pigs, but not much about anything else.


    not even remotely close.



    got any evidence of this claim or is this just another dumb unsubstantiated accusation from the propaganda handbook ?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    astounding.
    Not only do you fail to grasp a simple concept like what constitutes a civil war, you actually think you are being clever.

    Too bad Dunning and Kruger already published. You'd be a classic example for their hypothesis.


    I didnt insinuate anything. I provided you with more knowledge of the concept.
    If you are just learning this concept, then you don't have much literary nor life experience. this just further reinforces my conjecture that you are a young'un.

    You confuse two entirely different concepts.
    Stupid is lack of intelligence.
    Ignorant is lack of knowledge.

    Again I urge you to use a dictionary.

    now that is a stupid question. It is also an ignorant question.

    Your GPS is faulty. Must be north korean.


    GET A DICTIONARY!
    being obtuse cannot in any way be construed as selfish. And a simple grammar lesson so you don't undermine your attempts at being intellectual -
    http://www.wikihow.com/Use-%22Too%22-and-%22To%22-Correctly


    Lies do not inhabit people. A lie can exist in the subconscious as well or else we wouldn't need psychiatrists and psychologists.

    You are attempting to "enable" me with your own disability. And the sad part is, you have no clue.

    than what? Shall we delve into the nature of truth? I suggest you arm yourself before engaging. Here's a really short but informative primer for you:

    http://www.hitxp.com/articles/logic/nature-truth-absolute-relative-universal-local/

    If the subject actually interests you, I suggest you check this book out of the library. A tad heavy going at times, but it will provide a rather comprehensive overview of past and current philosophies regarding the nature of truth.

    http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/nature-truth"]http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/nature-truth[/URL]

    Come back to me when you feel you have sufficiently grasped the concepts.

    what is truth and what is reality are two entirely different concepts

    what is it like "out there"?
    .
    I'll get right on that. :hmm:
     
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    Alot of this. Are there other Lobby groups in the American Empire? Yes, most famously, the LBGT community, the NRA and Lord knows the medical industry has to get in on it too. But, do you know the distinct difference between these groups and AIPAC?(And if you want, I'll add Foreign Lobbying as a whole)

    These other groups are nationalized in other words, they are lobbying for rights and privileges in the Empire(most of which I argue is already covered by the Ciivl Rights act of '1964 but that's for another thread). I find lobbying itself despicable in that the people's government should be equal to access for all, and that the people duly elected should be governed not be which group outbids the other, but by their conviction and ideals. For this is what we're nominating them into power for.

    But nothing's more despicable than the Israeli lobby, on the account that it is forever omnipresent, anti-national and self-serving. In short, it's a parasite devouring its host. Every Nation-State has the right to deal with that parasite from a legal, lawful perspective. If the Jewish People want a omnipresent, self-serving government they should establish one right in the heart of Jerusalem. But there's no reason for the Western Empires, for my American Empire in particular to deal with this crap, as if we're obligated somehow. We're not.
     
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    Indeed.

    Contrary to this "vibrant marriage" that one non American apparently wants you to believe benefits Americans, it is a classic host/parasite situation.

    This can easily be demonstrated.

    A parasite needs it's host, otherwise it cannot exist.

    A host never benefits from the parasite. The parasite always weakens the host, and in nature, a parasite can even alter the brain patters and behaviours of said host.

    The host is usually stronger than the parasite, but if it does not throw it off in time, it shall eventually die a miserable death.

    Now.

    Do you think that if there were no Israel today that the US would survive and thrive?

    Do you think that if the US threw off the parasite (Israel), that they(Israel) would be able to survive and thrive?

    :wink:
     
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    Of course the Empire would survive and thrive, perhaps more so than at any point before the World Wars(which as Freedman confessed, even those were brought on by Jewish Interlopers into Western/European Affairs). Without that state, we'd have no interest or desire whatsoever in the Middle Eastern areas. It would then be possible to align with Russia, as a crucial geopolitical alliance for World Peace. As long as the East and West remain bitter enemies, the concept of war won't disappear from humanity.

    Now, would Israel be able to survive without the Empire? As it currently behaves? Absolutely not, we can be sure for example that there would be significant concessions in the Civil Palestinian dispute without the Empire. Noam Chomsky states as much, implying correctly that we're a miserable "partner" for these negotiations. Without the Empire, we wouldn't hear a single peep about Iran's nonexistent "Nuclear Weapons program", because it's not the Jewish Soldier that'll go to war, but instead it would be the American.

    But if Israel could engage the INTL. Community the right way, if it could behave as a peaceful State and find a settlement to its problems, then it's entirely possible for the Jews to exist co-harmoniously with the other Humans on the planet. The most regrettable thing, is that Europe has asked for this behavior for hundreds of years, only to get no response. Indeed, it's "our fault" whenever tragedy comes to pass them.

    If, perhaps, they looked at a mirror they might see what the world despises about them and then they would hopefully go about correcting the problem.
     
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    There you have it then.

    A classic parasite/host model and NOT the "vibrant marriage" that a certain man who is not from America(apparently), seems to think all you Americans are soooooooooooo ungrateful to not see the benefits of.
     

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