Syria(Ghouta) 'chemical' attack, is it the worst False flag operation in a history?

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and who is behind of this attack Assad or Wahhabits?

Poll closed Nov 29, 2013.
  1. Assad

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  2. Wahhabits

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The report came from the UN
     
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    Take the time to read the report by Mother Agnes and the International Support Team for Mussalaha in Syria (ISTEAMS). It will be an eye opener for many of you.
    It simply disgraces the entire US Intelligence Community for endorsing video footage that is clearly dubious and not credible. Have a look for yourselves.



     
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    UN shares the occupation of jerusalem by the bigots of israel, is illegal.

    I stated that i sided with russia on the claim that assad and syria did not use the chemical weapons on the civilians.

    Which side of the UN are you on?
     
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    One news article noted how the "Progressive Caucaus" in Congress routinely votes for more war funding.

    Congressional Progressive/Pentagon Caucus

    Congressional Progressive/Pentagon Caucus | War Is A Crime .org

    The Progressive Caucus: Enabling Obama’s Rightward Moves?

    The Progressive Caucus: Enabling Obama?s Rightward Moves? | War Is A Crime .org

    The Congressional Progressive Caucus: Exposing the Deception

    http://whiterosereader.org/2013/06/28/the-congressional-progressive-caucus-exposing-the-deception/
     
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    The UN report didn't rely upon videos.
     
  6. Marlowe

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    Nore ,- , as far as I understand , it also did not accuse/place the blame on either side. Right ?

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  7. litwin

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    you think UN commission did not get under USA´s pressure ?
     
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    The guy who throws around everything is a False Flag the most, tends to put out disinfo half the time. Hell, Alex Jones even said the media hyped Trayvon because Obama wanted to "take your guns away":roll:

    For all you Tea Party/ counter culture types who like Alex Jones you should read about GCNs and Prison Planets connections to the Council For National Policy, a NeoCon/CIA front think tank, whose members appear as regular guests on Alex Jones radio show and other GCN radio programs.
     
  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. It wasn't US pressure that lead to the UN limiting its authorization to only determining what use of chemical weapons occurred and avoiding a determination of who was responsible. But I believe they intentionally provided the evidence that allow us to make a pretty good determination of who was.
     
  10. litwin

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    can you post those here?
     
  11. litwin

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    you are right, UN commission did what they told to do , just enough for starting a new war in the ME
     
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    Its been posted before. The exact direction from which the missiles were fired, which leads directly to Syrian military instalations. Area controled by the Syrian Military, fired into areas controled by the rebels. The high quality of the Sarin. The estimate of a ton of Sarin being used. And the use of military rockets of a kind used by the Syrian military, and never known to be possesed by the rebels.
    And notice how even though, weeks ago the Russians claimed to have evidence that proves it was rebels, none of this evidence has yet surfaced.
     
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    HUH ? The exact direction from which the missiles were fired ? Really ? did you hear that from those liars in Washington - Obama + co., ?


    See this :


    "Evidence: Syrian Rebels used Chemical Weapons (not Assad)

    "Recent news of a chemical weapons attack in Syria smacks of desperation. The question comes down to who is most desperate right now, the Assad regime or the Muslim Brotherhood rebels? Consider that since June, Assad’s forces have been winning. According to a CBS News report from last month, victories for the rebels had become “increasingly rare” and that the Muslim Brotherhood-backed opposition fighters were sustaining “some of their heaviest losses” near Damascus.

    The New York Times echoed this sentiment, even saying that before gaining the upper hand, concerns were that Assad would use chemical weapons; he did not.

    In fact, even before Assad’s forces gained the momentum, a UN official reportedly found evidence of rebels using chemical weapons but no evidence Assad’s regime did. This, from a Washington Times article by Shaun Waterman dated May 6, 2013:
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    Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

    Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

    But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed. {emphasis ours}

    Today, while the rebels are more desperate than they were at the time of that article, evidence of rebels using chemical weapons is available; evidence Assad’s regime has used them is not.

    Waterman wrote…
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    Rebel Free Syrian Army spokesman Louay Almokdad denied that rebels had use chemical weapons.

    That doesn’t square with a video uploaded on August 23, 2013, in which Free Syrian operatives threatened to launch chemical weapons:

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    A day later, on August 24th, a video was uploaded and featured on facebook that purports to show Syrian rebels loading what very well may be a rocket armed with some sort of chemical agent. The tip of the rocket is armed with a light blue tank or canister that very well contains a nerve agent. At the end of this video, two separate launches of these rockets can be seen

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    This video from a Syrian TV news report claims to show chemicals (some of labels on these chemicals are in English) and weapons seized by the Syrian government in the rebel stronghold of Jobar. Note at the :10 mark a label that reads:
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    “Saudi Factory for Chlorine and Alkalies”


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    In this video, two Syrian rebels (Muslim Brotherhood gang) can be heard coordinating an attack on a nearby building. As smoke billows a short distance from the building, a rebel on the ground can be heard directing someone – presumably at the source of the launch – to change his direction. At that point, the rebel from the launch point can be heard talking about using sarin gas next:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DskXYjOs-8

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    In this video of a Russia Today news report originally broadcast on or before June 16, 2013, testimony from a United Nations panel is reported to demonstrate that rebel groups – not the Assad regime – was responsible for the use of chemical weapons in general, Sarin gas in particular, which backs up the claims in the previous video.

    Those who attempt to discredit the report below because it is from Russia Today should have difficulty doing so when factoring in rebels above talking about using sarin gas:

    [video=youtube;9B0AWwcOQ7I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0AWwcOQ7I[/video]

    http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence-syrian-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-not-assad/




    by a former Muslim Brotherhood member ------- who is Now a Peace Activist
     
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    1) direction/"lactation"
    2) quality of the Sarin
    3) rockets class
    you have never taken a course in juridic, right? if you as a prosecutor ´d bring such evidences into a Court, you´d become a local clown . your indirect physical , evidences prove NOTHING , exclude/identify no one, and can not be use in a Court (expect Stalins or WW2 military courts) .
     
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    Actually I have a law degree and I said, and you even highlighted my word, "evidence", not "prove" or proof, and we are not in a court of law.
     
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    Soooooo an article from May is your evidence that Assad didn't use chemical weapons on August 21st????? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! you believe because you soooooooo desparately want to believe.
     
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    ???? No, the compass readings came from the UN report.
     
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    Its a pit that you've so far , been unable to produce a more recent CREDIBLE article as evidence to support crap which you've so gullibly swallowed + regurgitating .

    :roll:

    tata...

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    Thats what YOU say , Hmmm - now let's see the evidence - show me the proof.

    Where's your source ?


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    Shoebat???? Why would you believe Shoebat?

    Do you remember the 1982 massacre in Hama?
     
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    Sorry No , I do not know what Shoebat said in 1982.


    However , I've really no reason to doubt the facts he revealed abt the 2013 civil was in Syria , or can you disprove anything he has said abt Syria ?
    He admits having formerly been a member of Muslims Brother and says he's NOW A PEACE ACTIVIST. Why shouldn't one believe him ?.


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    How about this?

    Associated Press reported last week:

    An intercept of Syrian military officials discussing the strike was among low-level staff, with no direct evidence tying the attack back to an Assad insider or even a senior Syrian commander, the officials said.

    So while Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday that links between the attack and the Assad government are “undeniable,” U.S. intelligence officials are not so certain that the suspected chemical attack was carried out on Assad’s orders, or even completely sure it was carried out by government forces, the officials said.


    Or this:

    Indeed, numerous intelligence officers say that the rebels likely carried out the August 21st attack.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/high-l...ernment-didnt-launch-chemical-weapons/5348643
     
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    we´d be there , you can not just make up a case in your interests with out proofs

    here also some "evidence", "Physical Evidence of Alien & UFO Abductions" , what we ´d do right new, invade Venus ?

    [video=youtube;Y02BLG9Xek4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02BLG9Xek4[/video]

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    its exactly what i wrote
     
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    Shoebat is a fraud.. making a buck..

    He claims his "foundation" for charity is registered in PA.. It never was.. He's a con man with an invented past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat

    The Hama Massacre was in 1982.. on orders from Hafez Assad.
     
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    Good enough for the Homeland Security. They do not care about your Wikipedia source.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/07/11/terrorism.expert/index.html

     
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