Republicans and Black People

So just how many false "absolute" claims do you make here in this one ridiculous post.

"it’s got nothing to do with welfare, food stamps,..."

"...every time you turn the TV..."

"... the only thing you hear out of their mouths..."

"... translates to a complete lack of respect for..."

"... All women need to basically be ..."

"... every year while NOTHING gets said about it. "

" All gays are evil & need to ..."

"In other words, everything republicans talk about and all of their actions..."

"... this entire thread is ..."

A sure sign of Hyperbole and Propaganda is the frequent and over-use of Absolutes in any post.

I mean, from a rhetorical perspective, it is actually quite humorous.

As a post which was presented as a means of persuasion to a view point, it is counter productive. It is like a how-to-List of the most frequent mistakes made in trying to convince those who read arguments on Political Forums.

Worse, it is factually a pack of lies...

Show U.S. one, just one, example of a Republican saying " All women need to basically be home & barefoot having as many babies as the Dugger family because that’s God’s plan, oh and stop complaining about your pay inequality because paying you women the same amount as men would kill the economy."

Just one example.... Just one!

I am afraid all you accomplished in this ridiculous post is show your illogical, hyperbolic, and dishonest nature.

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Ok,

Fair enough, I admittedly was a little heated when I wrote that comment and I’d like to be given the opportunity to polish it up a little.

Yes your right, not everything is that fatalistic or absolute, there are no:

“all the times”

“every day’s”

“only's”

“complete's”

“nothing's”

Now that I’ve admitted as much I have to say that I find it incredibly interesting how of everything I wrote that was the only thing you were able to laser in on and comment on.

My comment was pretty lengthy and had a lot of meat to choose from, and all you zoned in on was my obvious use of absolution to everything.

Here are all of the same comments adjusted to make “you” feel better.

“It’s got “mostly” nothing to do with “most” black folks expecting democrats to support them so that they don’t have to work while everybody else rolls up their sleeves.

It’s simple…………….most of the time you turn the TV on and see some republican on the steps of the capital in Washington, their “mostly” only talking about:

1. Obama’s an idiot this and Obama’s a fool that……which translates to a complete lack of respect for someone extremely respected and admired by black people.

2. Most brown people need to be deported, and hardly any more should be let in because their mostly all useless drags on society……which translates into most of our Mexican brothers & sisters are useless pieces of crap that need to go.

3. Blacks take offense to the constant grief & harassment Mexicans go through while we see thousands of Canadians and other Caucasians from Europe come here illegally every year while NOTHING gets said about it. (sorry but I’m sticking by this one)

4. Most women need to basically be home & barefoot having as many babies as the Dugger family because that’s God’s plan, oh and stop complaining about your pay inequality because paying you women the same amount as men would kill the economy.

5. Most gays are evil & need to go back into the closet because they tear at the fabric of America and have caused a sick immorality that has diseased most of us.


Now that we have made an effort at un-ruffling your feathers with this ridiculous exercise, how about you comment on the posts without attacking me by calling me a hyperbolic propagandist?

How about you admit that I outlined the conservative platform to the letter, and that MOST conservatives do in fact feel that way?

How about you comment on everything I wrote and give explanations as to why you think I might be wrong instead of doing what most people in this heavily conservative forum do, and cherry pick what you want to argue about and distract it by name calling?

Come on…………..show me what you’re made of, you can do it…….

 

What I see is a post chock full of stereotypes and prejudice.

And its disheartening to see it come from someone who claims to be a victim of the same treatment.

It's all about defending Barack Obama isn't it, SC? You admitted as much. Unthinkable to consider support for his opposition... those evil Republicans. You still think he's a good president, regardless of his 40 something approval rating.

The good thing about wordy posters, doesn't take long to figure out where they're coming from.

I respect your loyalty to the president. He counts on support from people like you.

 

Smartmouthwoman, please read my reply to Kurmugeon if you haven’t already, and if you still feel the same way fine.

My sense is that you guys (you guys being conservatives) get offended when people talk about things that are not talked about.

My claims weren’t based on stereotypes or prejudice’s, they were based on experiences, and sadly I can’t go into them here because you’ll slam me again for being “wordy”.

Don’t take offense to anything I wrote if it doesn’t apply to you, but be honest enough with yourself to admit that a lot of republicans/conservatives do think & feel that way.

If you truly believe the contrary then fine, but don’t beat me up for expressing my thoughts & opinions based on a lifetime of experiences.

 

It's hard to accept your lifetime of experiences if you don't accept mine as a southern conservative Republican. I feel certain if I had expressed as much hate toward black people as you express toward southern conservative Republicans, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

I absolutely believe your good person.

I absolutely would not put you in the category of people I expressed in my post.

I absolutely know you have a decent heart, and are a good soul.

I was referring more to politicians than average citizens, although I’ve run into quite a few people in the Deep South who had no reservations what-so-ever letting me know that I wasn’t welcomed.

I spent a lot of time in South & North Carolina when I was in the Marines and a good bit of time in Georgia & Texas as an adult.

I was always treated well in all of those places, especially Texas.

But Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kentucky………OH……MY….GOD, completely different experiences all together.

Once when I was damn near dead from a nasty flu bug, it was a bunch of white southern women in Georgia who nursed me back to health and spoiled me rotten.

Once in Alabama on vacation when I entered a restaurant the entire place fell silent when I walked in…………you could hear a pin drop and every fork, knife, glass, and conversation stopped until I turned around and walked out.

No Smartmouthwoman, I’m no racist, and I’m no propagandist , I’m a man of mixed heritage that has gained many lifetimes of experience in my 40 something years of walking around this rock we call home, and I see with my eyes open…………………

 

Hating on Republicans isn't racist, but it's still hate. You seem like a smart guy. Hopefully you'll dial it back a bit now that it's been brought to your attention.

 

Well I never used the word hate, and I actually don't recall saying that I hated anybody............so...........um............yeah..............

Have a good night Smartmouthwoman..................

 

Read your rant posts and substitute black for Republicans and maybe you'll feel the hate the rest of us feel.

Then again, maybe not. We often can't see own prejudices.

Trust you slept well.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you insist that I hated Obama?

That word "hate" seems to be thrown around a lot, and usually not in an appropriate manner.

 

Admitting your hatred of blacks probably isn't going to do much to lure them to the republican side.. which seemed to be the theme of this thread.

 

Do you have anything to back up that ridiculous accusation?

 

Don't Republicans hate blacks, poor white people, and all liberals? That certainly seems to be case as far as I have witnessed in my lifetime.

 

I did quote you afterall.. your words not mine.

 

Lincoln freed the slaves, and was Republican. The KKK in the south voted straight Democrat because the Civil War was not just a victory for Lincoln, but for the Republicans. So, the Democrats have a far worse history of racism and slavery than Republicans. At this point, they use fear mongering and race baiting to win political debate. Blacks should realize that politicians will never cure the problems which plague the Black communities. Like during the civil rights movement, it was not Blacks begging the government for assistance. Blacks recognized themselves as EQUAL if not better at many things as their white counterparts. The thought that you are equal, but also have the self confidence to succeed, not by assistance, but by your own sweat was what was empowering about the civil rights movement.

Then, all of a sudden, Kennedy is killed. Martin Luther King JR. is killed. Malcolm X is killed. Black Panther Party and other pro black parties are framed by the FBI through Co-Intel Pro.

And now, the black community is forced into a position of having to vote for a party that will take their opportunities in return for table scraps.

 

Better check your history on that one. The democrats were the racist party from before the civil war (1860's) up until the 1980's and 1990's to where suddenly they became minority's best friends.

 

Well, we did lower taxes at a moment of prosperity and look at the sparkling results (scoff). I don't think the old rules apply anymore.

 

Well, when you're quoting ancient history in defense of the Republicans, sometimes things aren't always the same as they used to be. I guess we need to go back to 1860 so we can be privy to the goodness of the Republican once again huh?

 

Maybe you should read the exchange instead of picking out words.

Or don't... unless you have an opinion about the topic, your presence isn't really required.

 

It's quite a silly statement. I'm just pointing out that Democrats have a very long history of disapproval for minority equality, equal education rights, interracial marriage etc... Those who are serious about politics should not disregard history, especially only 100 or so years ago. You make it seems like 1860 might as well be the time of the Romans or something. Its only two generations old.

I suggest that the Democratic party uses minority problems to their advantage and makes promises that Republicans in turn must defend against. Which makes Republicans look like they hate black people. No, we hate the idea that a political party would use "equal rights" in an unequal way for political power.

 

Also, all parties aside, the Government itself has a history of implementing some really screwed up laws as well as coming to some quite scary court decisions like Jim Crowe. The founders agreed at the end of the day, that all men were created equal. Many take this out of context because they owned slaves. They meant that all men were created by God. What makes us different is how much each of us are willing to go to accomplish our goals. If you are successful, your family and those who you cherish should enjoy your success as well. Some people have success in their families, some don't. But everyone should have a fair shot in terms of eliminating institutionalized biases, either against, or in favor of minority classes.

 

Oh I read it.. There is another way to interpret your words? What exactly is that hate you feel then?

 

Not interested in educating you... those who've followed the dialog know what it means. I owe you no explanation.

 

It's an interesting phenomenon... and a good example of herd mentality.



Economic conditions must not play a role in political decision-making.

 

Over 150 years ago (or so). If Republicans need to reference 1860, to show that they're somehow, kind and wonderful, then I would suggest that party is well, irrelevant, when it comes to representing poor blacks, poor white, poor hispanics, or any poor people in general. I'm just pointing THAT out.

Looks like a duck, well.....