Roman Catholic church created Islam!!!

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    Illuminati Occult-Luciferian Connections to Roman Catholicism & Islam
    [video=youtube;A1lul2nEyIU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1lul2nEyIU[/video]

    The Babylonian Origins of Catholicism & Islam
    [video=youtube;9h1Yk8Taqt8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h1Yk8Taqt8[/video]

    The Roman Catholicism is a counterfeit “Christian” religion to destroy the work of God. They created Islam to get control of Arab population, use them as a tool to against true Christians. and to obtain the control of Jerusalem.

    Both Roman Catholic and Islam derived from Babylonian religion, which belong to the other side.

    "A Jesuit cardinal named Augustine Bea showed us how desperately the Roman Catholics wanted Jerusalem at the end of the third century. Because of its religious history and its strategic location, the Holy City was considered a priceless treasure. A scheme had to be developed "to make Jerusalem a Roman Catholic city. The great untapped source of manpower that could do this job was the children of Ishmael. The poor Arabs fell victim to one of the most clever plans ever devised by the Powers of Darkness."...............
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican33.htm

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    "Early Christians went everywhere with the gospel, setting up small churches, but they met heavy opposition. Both the Jews and the Roman government persecuted the believers in Christ to stop their spread.

    But the Jews rebelled against Rome, and in 70 A.D. Roman armies under General Titus smashed Jerusalem and destroyed the great Jewish temple which was the heart of Jewish worship—in fulfillment of Christ’s prophecy in Matthew 24:2. On this holy place, where the temple once stood, the Dome of the Rock Mosque stands today as Islam’s second most holy place.

    Sweeping changes were in the wind. Corruption, apathy, greed, cruelty, perversion, and rebellion were eating at the Roman Empire, and it was ready to collapse. The persecution against Christians was useless, as they continued to lay down their lives for the gospel of Christ.

    The only way Satan could stop this thrust was to create a counterfeit “Christian” religion to destroy the work of God. The solution was in Rome. Their religion had come from ancient Babylon, and all it needed was a face-lift. This didn’t happen overnight, but began in the writings of the “early church fathers”.

    It was through their writings that a new religion would take shape. The statue of Jupiter in Rome was eventually called St. Peter, and the statue of Venus was changed to the Virgin Mary. The site chosen for its headquarters was on one of the seven hills called “Vaticanus”—the place of diving serpent where the satanic Temple of Janus stood.

    The great counterfeit religion was Roman Catholicism, called “Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth” (Revelation 17:5). She was raised up to block the gospel, slaughter the believers in Christ, establish religions, create wars, and make the nations drunk with the wine of her fornication as we will see.

    Three major religions have one thing in common—each has a holy place where they look for guidance. Roman Catholicism looks to the Vatican as the Holy City. The Jews look to the wailing wall in Jerusalem, and the Muslims look to Mecca as their Holy City.

    Each group believes that they receive certain types of blessings for the rest of their lives for visiting their holy place.

    In the beginning, Arab visitors would bring gifts to the “House of God" and the keepers of the Kaaba were gracious to all who came. Some brought their idols and, not wanting to offend these people, their idols were placed inside the sanctuary. It is said that the Jews looked upon the Kaaba as an outlying tabernacle of the Lord, with veneration until it became polluted with idols............"
     
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    "In a tribal contention over a well (Zamzam) the treasure of the Kaaba and the offerings that pilgrims had given were dumped down the well and it was filled with sand; it disappeared. Many years later Adb al-Muttalib was given visions telling him where to find the well and its treasure. He became the hero of Mecca, and he was destined to become the grandfather of Muhammad.

    Before this time, Augustine became the bishop of North Africa and was effective in winning Arabs to Roman Catholicism, including whole tribes. It was among these Arab converts to Catholicism that the concept of looking for an Arab prophet developed.

    Muhammad’s father died from illness, and sons born to great Arab families in places like Mecca were sent into the desert to be suckled and weaned and spend some of their childhood with Bedouin tribes for training and to avoid the plagues in the cities.

    After his mother and grandfather also died, Muhammad was with his uncle when a Roman Catholic monk learned of his identity and said:
    “Take your brother’s son back to his country and guard him against the Jews, for by God, if they see him and know of him that which I know, they will construe evil against him. Great things are in store for this brother’s son of yours.”
    The Roman Catholic monk had fanned the flames for future Jewish persecutions at the hands of the followers of Muhammad. The Vatican desperately wanted Jerusalem because of its religious significance, but was blocked by the Jews.

    Another problem was the true Christians in North Africa who preached the gospel. Roman Catholicism was growing in power, but would not tolerate opposition. Somehow the Vatican had to create a weapon to eliminate both the Jews and the true Christian believers who refused to accept Roman Catholicism. Looking to North Africa, they saw the multitudes of Arabs as a source of manpower to do their dirty work.

    Some Arabs had become Roman Catholic, and could be used in reporting information to leaders in Rome. Others were used in an underground spy network to carry out Rome’s master plan to control the great multitudes of Arabs who rejected Catholicism.

    When “St. Augustine” appeared on the scene, he knew what was going on. His monasteries served as bases to seek out and destroy Bible manuscripts owned by the true Christians.

    The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs, someone they could raise up as a great leader, a man with charisma whom they could train, and eventually unite all the non-Catholic Arabs behind him, creating a mighty army that would ultimately capture Jerusalem for the pope.

    In the Vatican briefing, Cardinal Bea told us this story:
    A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment.

    She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael.

    Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic, and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad’s advisor. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad.

    Teachers were sent to young Muhammad and he had intensive training. Muhammad studied the works of St. Augustine, which prepared him for his “great calling”. The Vatican had Catholic Arabs across North Africa spread the story of a great one who was about to rise up among the people and be the chosen one of their God.

    While Muhammad was being prepared, he was told that his enemies were the Jews and that the only true Christians were Roman Catholic. He was taught that others calling themselves Christians were actually wicked impostors and should be destroyed. Many Muslims believe this.

    Muhammad began receiving “divine revelations” and his wife’s Catholic cousin Waraquah helped interpret them. From this came the Koran. In the fifth year of Muhammad’s mission, persecution came against his followers because they refused to worship the idols in the Kaaba.

    Muhammad instructed some of them to flee to Abysinnia, where Negus, the Roman Catholic king, accepted them because Muhammad’s views on the virgin Mary were so close to Roman Catholic doctrine. These Muslims received protection from Catholic kings because of Muhammad’s revelations.

    Muhammad later conquered Mecca and the Kaaba was cleared of idols.

    History proves that before Islam came into existence, the Sabeans in Arabia worshiped the moon-god who was married to the sun-god. They gave birth to three goddesses, who were worshipped throughout the Arab world as “Daughters of Allah”. An idol excavated at Hazor in Palestine in the 1950s shows Allah sitting on a throne with the crescent moon on his chest.

    Muhammad claimed he had a vision from Allah and was told:
    “You are the messenger of Allah.”
    This began his career as a prophet and he received many messages. By the time Muhammad died, the religion of Islam was exploding. The nomadic Arab tribes were joining forces in the name of Allah and his prophet, Muhammad.

    Some of Muhammad’s writings were placed in the Koran, others were never published. They are now in the hands of high ranking holy men (Ayatollahs) in the Islamic faith.
    When Cardinal Bea shared this information with us in the Vatican, he said:
    “These writings are guarded because they contain information that links the Vatican to the creation of Islam.”
    Both sides have so much information on each other that, if exposed, it could create such a scandal that it would be a disaster for both religions. In their “holy” book, the Koran, Christ is regarded as only a prophet. If the pope was his representative on Earth, then he also must be a prophet of God. This caused the followers of Muhammad to fear and respect the pope as another “holy man”.

    The pope moved quickly and issued bulls granting the Arab generals permission to invade and conquer the nations of North Africa.

    The Vatican helped to finance the building of these massive Islamic armies in exchange for three favors:
    Eliminate the Jews and Christians (the latter were regarded as true believers, which they called infidels)
    Protect the Augustinian monks and Roman Catholics
    Conquer Jerusalem for “His Holiness” in the Vatican
    As time went by, the power of Islam became tremendous—Jews and true Christians were slaughtered, and Jerusalem fell into their hands. Roman Catholics were never attacked, nor were their shrines, during this time. But when the pope asked for Jerusalem, he was surprised at their denial!

    The Arab generals had such military success that they could not be intimidated by the pope—nothing could stand in the way of their own plan.

    Under Waraquah’s direction, Muhammad wrote that Abraham offered Ishmael as a sacrifice. The Bible says that Isaac was the sacrifice, but Muhammad removed Isaac’s name and inserted Ishmael’s name. As a result of this and Muhammad’s vision, the faithful Muslims built a mosque, the Dome of the Rock, in Ishmael’s honor, on the site of the Jewish temple that was destroyed in 70 A.D. This made Jerusalem the second most holy place in the Islamic faith.

    How could they give such a sacred shrine to the pope without causing a revolt?

    The pope realized what they had created was out of control when he heard they were calling “His Holiness” an infidel. The Muslim generals were determined to conquer the world for Allah, and now they turned toward Europe.

    Islamic ambassadors approached the pope and asked for papal bulls to give them permission to invade European countries. The Vatican was outraged; war was inevitable. Temporal power and control of the world was considered the basic right of the pope. He wouldn’t think of sharing it with those whom he considered heathens."
     
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    One word in and there's no reason to read another one. That's got to be a new record. :lol:
     
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    "The pope raised up his armies and called them “crusades” to hold back the children of Ishmael from grabbing Catholic Europe. The crusades lasted for centuries and Jerusalem slipped out of the pope’s hands. Turkey fell, and Spain and Portugal were invaded by Islamic forces. In Portugal, they called a mountain village “Fatima” in honor of Muhammad’s daughter, never dreaming it would become world famous.

    Years later, when the Muslim armies were poised on the islands of Sardinia and Corsica, to invade Italy, there was a serious problem. The Islamic generals realized they were too far extended. It was time for peace talks. One of the negotiators was Francis of Assisi. As a result, the Muslims were allowed to occupy Turkey in a “Christian” world, and the Catholics were allowed to occupy Lebanon in the Arab world. It was also agreed that the Muslims could build mosques in Catholic countries without interference, as long as Roman Catholicism could flourish in Arab countries.

    Cardinal Bea told us in Vatican briefings that both the Muslims and Roman Catholics agreed to block and destroy the efforts of their common enemy: Bible-believing Christian missionaries. Through these concordats, Satan blocked the children of Ishmael from a knowledge of scripture and the truth.

    The Islamic community looks on the Bible-believing missionary as a devil who brings poison to the children of Allah. This explains years of ministry in those countries with little results.

    The Vatican also engineers a campaign of hatred between the Muslim Arabs and the Jews. Before this, they had co-existed peacefully. A light control was kept on Muslims— from the Ayatollah, down through the Islamic priests, nuns, and monks.

    The next plan was to control Islam. In 1910, Portugal was going Socialistic. Red flags were appearing and the Catholic Church was facing a major problem. Increasing numbers were against the Church.

    The Jesuits wanted Russia involved, and the location of this vision at Fatima could play a key part in pulling Islam to the Mother Church. In 1917, the Virgin appeared in Fatima. “The Mother of God” was a smashing success, playing to overflow crowds. As a result, the Socialists of Portugal suffered a major defeat.

    Roman Catholics worldwide began praying for the conversion of Russia, and the Jesuits invented the novenas to Fatima, which they could perform throughout North Africa, spreading good public relations to the Muslim world. The Arabs thought they were honoring the daughter of Muhammad, which is what the Jesuits wanted them to believe.

    As a result of the vision of Fatima, Pope Pius XII ordered his Nazi army to crush Russia and the Orthodox religion, and make Russia Roman Catholic. A few years after he lost World War II, Pope Pius XII startled the world with his phony “dancing Sun” vision to keep Fatima in the news. It was great religious show biz and the world swallowed it. Not surprisingly, Pope Pius was the only one to see this vision.

    As a result, a group of followers has grown into a Blue Army worldwide, totaling millions of faithful Roman Catholics ready to die for the Blessed Virgin. But we haven’t seen anything yet. The Jesuits have their Virgin Mary scheduled to appear four or five times in China, Russia, and major appearance in the U.S.

    What has this got to do with Islam?

    Note Bishop Sheen’s statement:
    “Our Lady’s appearances at Fatima marked the turning point in the history of the world’s 350 million Muslims. After the death of his daughter, Muhammad wrote that she ‘is the most holy of all women in Paradise, next to Mary.’ He believed that the Virgin Mary chose to be known as Our Lady of Fatima as a sign and a pledge that the Muslims who believe in Christ’s virgin birth, will come to believe in his divinity.”
    Bishop Sheen pointed out that the pilgrim virgin statues of Our Lady of Fatima were enthusiastically received by Muslims in Africa, India, and elsewhere, and that many Muslims are now coming into the Roman Catholic Church".

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican33.htm

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    You don't think illuminati exist?
     
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    Please don't ask questions that would imply that I'm mentally retarded. The illuminati existed. Past tense. They were never influential and no longer esist. Can we get this crap moved to conspiracy theories?
     
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    Do you believe this stuff?
     
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    Stop trying to derail my thread. The main point of this thread is THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC AND ISLAM.
     
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    Right, and the moment that you mention the Illuminati, anyone anywhere with any background is entirely justified in completely ignoring any thing you have to say.
     
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    Its BS.. There were NO Catholics in Arabia.......
     
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    Conspiracy nonsense
     
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    That sounds reasonable. Some of the popes were real _______. So how is this story going to end?
     
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    Uhhh! There was no such thing as Roman Catholicism until the schism between the Latin and Greek churches in the eleventh century. Originally there were five major Patriarchates/Bishoprics; Rome, Constantinople, Jerusalem, Antioch and Alexandria. As for Islam, it was considered at its conception by the Christian Church a heresy. Probably an outcome of Arianism.

    As I said there was no such thing as the Roman Catholic Church until the anathemas were thrown back and forth between a Cardinal and the Patriarch of Constantinople during the eleventh century.


    The Patriarchs of Jerusalem, Rome, Constantinople (second Rome), Alexandria, and Antioch were all united as one Church in the third century, and there was no such thing as Roman Catholicism. All the people in those lands were Christian except for the Jews, and the Arab Muslims came from Saudi Arabia four centuries later.


    Uhhh! Saint Constantine moved Rome to the city on the Bosporus called Byzantium in the fourth century, and this is where Rome stood for one thousand years.

    This great counterfeit religion as you called it, is what Christianized Europe. They were all savages and pagans...remember?

    Besides there was no such thing as Roman Catholicism until after the schism in the eleventh century. There was only one Christian Church and the Fathers of the Church are the ones who compiled the Bible and defined what we Christians believe. It was this one Christian Church that sent out its 'saints' and converted a pagan world. Europe fell under Latin Church of Rome, and Russia, Eastern Europe, the Near East, Middle East and Africa fell under the four other Greek Churches.
     
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    The people living in the 'Levant' were not Arabs. They were Assyrians, Lebanese, Greeks, Jews, Egyptians, etc. These people did not convert to Roman Catholicism since it did not exist as a separate Christian faith. There was only one Christian Church. They became Christians and fell under their respective patriarchs...which were Jerusalem, Alexandria and Antioch.


    There could not have been any Roman Catholic monk in the Middle East since it was never part of the Jurisdiction of Rome.

    There was no Roman Catholic Church, and Jerusalem was already united with the churches of Rome, Constantinople (new Rome), Antioch and Alexandria, so what you are saying is garbage. Study up on history.

    I repeat once again, there was no Roman Catholic Church until the schism in the eleventh century between the Latin Church of the West, and the Greek Churches of the East.

    There were no Arabs in North Africa and the Middle East during the time of Saint Augustine. The Arabs came from Saudi Arabia with Mohamed's army in the seventh century.

    The messiah appeared in Mecca in Saudi Arabia. The Vatican and Rome had nothing to do with the Middle East. The Middle East was part of the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine) and the Christians were under the Patriarch of Antioch, not the Pope of Rome.
     
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    Arabs arrived in the Egypt, Levant, Syria and Mesopotamia 6,000 years BC. Are you confusing Arabs with Muslims? Arabs predate Islam.

    Nestorians had five bishoprics on the Arabian peninsula by about 300 AD.
     
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    I was not talking about Semites who do predate Islam in that part of the world. Contrary to what the Arabs feel is politically expedient to them, they are only one of the groups who spoke a Semitic language, and they lived in Saudi Arabia. It can no more make them an Assyrian, Phoenician or a Carthagian anymore than it would make them a Jew. By your reasoning then the Germans could call themselves Greeks and Romans, or even Persian and Indian since all of them speak an indo European language.

    According to Wikipedia the Patriarch of Constantinople Nestorius wasn't condemned for heresy until the First Council of Ephesus in 431. This means the Nestorian churches could not have existed before that. The bishoprics had to have been part of the early Christian Church. :confuse:
     
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    The people who lived in Egypt, the Levant , etc were Arabs, Jeannette. The Arabian peninsula went thru some serious climate changes and the people moved north.. long before recorded history.. The Bishoprics were Nestorian..

    Nestorians in Arabia.

    http://www.nestorian.org/the_eastern_province__saudia_a.html

    Nestorians in Bahrain (Dilmun)

    http://www.nestorian.org/bahrain_history_-_pre-islam_.html

    Nestorius (circa. 382-451 AD), Archbishop of Constantinople, was deposed in 431 AD following the Council of Ephesus. He was driven from the Byzantine empire and his followers persecuted
     
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    The OP delivers us a nutjob of a lecturer. He puts out pure drivel and false propaganda. People who listen to this guy deserve to be misled.
     
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    Do you have any specifics of his pure drivel and false propaganda?
     
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    I've watched other videos from this guy on other subjects and he manipulates and falsifies information to suit his fanatical agenda. You couldn't pay me to trust what he says and it's always tainted.
     
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    He's not the only one..............
     
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    Fatima outlived Muhammed.. Do you see a problem?
     
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    LOL

    Waraqah was not a Catholic.. He was an Ebionite.. A Jewish Christian.. Khadejah was not Catholic either.
     
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    Big Thanks to Lynx for posting the Walter Veith video on how Most of Christendom and Islam is manipulated and controlled by Talmudic doctrine based in the Vatican.

    Most of what he revealed is correct.
    Even if it was the Vatican guys that got Muhammed going, He over came that and was a follower of Christ. But after he died of poison, the Qur'an was altered to serve the interests of anti-Christs.

    Mohktars speech Iran TV.jpg
     

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