FLASHBACK: 1995 Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first attack on the WTC in 1993, is arrested in Islamabad. His supposed uncle, Khalid Shaikh Mohamed, is giving interviews time after time. (pun intended) This is the Time Magazine article that described the arrest of the most wanted man at the time- The article cuts off just about where KSM starts to describe the arrest. I don't subscribe to Time so I can't cut and paste that part but I've read the article before. Here's a former DEA agent confirming KSM was a witness at the scene- Remarkable isn't it? The mastermind himself is our empirical source for Ramzi Yousefs arrest. Also, when Ramzi checks in he gives the name Ali Mohamed while using a Pakistani passport. Ali Mohamed is a US/Egyptian soldier who is supposedly an al Qaeda leader but he is never sentenced for anything. Other accounts of the arrest state that the FBI knew Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was a wanted man but that he (KSM) had left Su Casa by the time the FBI got there. (DEA and DSS and ISI supposedly rendered Ramzi.) Even so, apparently the LA Times also interviewed KSM - And since KSM is a time traveler and mastermind there's still time to change his name from Shaikh to Azim and talk to the NYTimes - Yes, Azim (it means great in Arabic) is certainly KSM again. It's almost as if KSM was the only witness to the event of Ramzi's arrest. He surely must be the mastermind of masterminds.
Who is Ramzi Yousef? Yousef received life and 240 years for two convictions in New York State--one for the 1993 WTC bombing and another for plotting to bomb 12 U.S. airplanes in 1995. During sentencing, Judge Duffy, who presided at both trials, said to Yousef, "We don't even know what your real name is." When "Yousef" arrived in the U.S. in 1992 his Iraqi passport identified him as Ramzi Ahmed Yousef. But on the day of the 1993 bombing, he left New York using a Pakistani passport with the name Abdul Basit Karim. There was a man with this name who was born in Kuwait, to Pakistani parents, attended school in Britain and returned to Kuwait to work the year prior to the Iraqi invasion. As part of the 1993 WTC bombing investigation, the Kuwaitis discovered that Karim's picture and signature were missing from his official file. There were unusually detailed additions to the file showing that Karim and his family left Kuwait at a time when there was no Kuwaiti government, that is, no bureaucracy to record the information--only an occupying army, the Iraqis. Iraq had full access to all Kuwaiti files during the occupation. The fingerprints in the file match the man who was convicted. Karim's former teachers in Britain put him at most five foot eight inches tall. Yousef is six feet tall. Yousef/Karim is a Pakistani Bulach: "The Baluch are a Sunni Muslim people living on both sides of the border between eastern Iran and western Pakistan. Much of Bulach territory is...controlled by neither Iran nor Pakistan...[The Bulach] have long been in a state of violent opposition to the Shi'a government in Tehran. Following Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution, and the drastic intensification of Shi'a rule introduced by Ayatollah Khomeini, Bulach opposition to the Iranian government also intensified." Iraqi defector General Wafiq Samarrai "headed Iraqi military intelligence during the Iran-Iraq war and during Iraq's invasion of Kuwait...According to Samarrai, Iraqi intelligence has deep and well-established contacts with the Baluch on both sides of the Pakistan-Iran border. Iraq used the Bulach against Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, and Iraqi military intelligence in fact maintained an office in the Arab emirate of Dubai, where it ran Bulach spies into Iran. Iraq also supported the Pakistani Baluch in their revolt." Is the name Ramzi Yousef an alias and the identity associated with the name Abdul Basit Karim a Soviet-style "legend"? Which U.S. bureacracy cares? He has been convicted and sentenced: case closed. Source: "Bush vs. the Beltway" by Laurie Mylroie ------------------ Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters Lets take a brief walk down memory lane, shall we? Does anyone remember Ramzi Yousef's 1995 plot named 'Bojinka' ("big noise") to blow up eleven passanger jets in mid-flight? Yes, Ramzi Yousef, the man who built the huge bomb that was intended, in 1993, to topple one twin tower onto the other, bringing both down simultaneously, killing, oh, 20 to 40 thousand people; And who entered New York using an Iraqi passport, was called "Rashid, the Iraqi" by local fundamentalists and who fled from New York to Iraq after setting off the bomb; And who is a Pakistani Baluch--an ethnic group known to have been used by Iraqi Intellegence in Iraq's war with Iran; And who claims to be a blood relative of Kaleed Sheik Mohammad, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the 9-11 attacks--an idea--that is, flying commercial jets into buildings--an idea that was first discovered during the Bojinka trial as an alternative plan to destroying planes in mid-flight. Oh, the memories... Take liquids off of planes NOW? The technique of liquid explosives dates back to the 1995 Bojinka plot! Yousef tested his bomb using liquids brought onto the plane in 1994. It killed a Korean passenger--cutting him in two at the torso--but failed to bring down the plane. He thought he needed to adjust the row-placement in future but never got to try as the plot was discovered in the chemical mixing stage. (^)
From this article by Laurie Mylroie. It looks more and more like she has been right all along. The path to 9/11 really began with the Baluch before their alliance with al Qaeda -- with the 1993 Trade Center bombing and the 1995 plane bombing plot. Only after KSM [Khalid Sheikh Mohammad] joined with bin Laden, bringing with him the skills of his group, did al Qaeda's major attacks against the U.S. begin -- starting with the 1998 embassy bombings. This would help explain how a virtually unknown organization like al Qaeda managed to bomb two U.S. embassies nearly simultaneously and then carry out the most lethal single attack in U.S. history a mere three years later. ... An alternative explanation for al Qaeda's terrorism exists. After bin Laden was expelled to Afghanistan in 1996, two groups joined forces: 1) the original al Qaeda, represented by bin Laden and those around him; and 2) the Baluch: KSM and his extended "clan," which is probably not a family, but an elite squad. Probably, these individuals were selected in the same way we would recruit such a group: they were chosen for their special aptitudes from a much larger pool and then given additional training -- most likely, by Iraq. ... Terrorist Family Extraordinaire George Tenet told the Congressional Joint Inquiry, "We now believe that a common thread runs between the first attack on the World Trade Center in February 1993 and the 11 September attacks....Mukhtar is the uncle of Ramzi Yousef, who masterminded the 1993 bombing plot against the World Trade Center. Following the 1993 attack, Yousef and Mukhtar plotted in 1995 to blow up [twelve] U.S. planes flying East Asian routes." "Mukhtar" was an alias for Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (KSM), the 9/11 mastermind. "Since September 11, the CIA has come to believe that KSM may have been responsible for all bin Laden operations outside Afghanistan," the Joint Inquiry reports. Yet U.S. authorities only learned of KSM's key role after the capture and interrogation of a senior al Qaeda figure in 2002. A U.S. intelligence official later told the Washington Post, "It wasn't until recently that any of us even realized he was part of al Qaeda....The big problem nailing him down is that the informants that we relied on, especially before 9/11, were mujaheddin. They'd been in Afghanistan, in Sudan, back in Afghanistan. Khalid was never a part of any of that" (emphasis added) Ammar al-Baluchi (aka Ali Abdul Aziz Ali) -- Ramzi Yousef's first cousin and another KSM nephew -- was KSM's "right-hand man." Al-Baluchi sent the "primary funding" to the hijackers and coached nine of them on how to behave in America. Following KSM's capture in 2003, U.S. authorities told the Washington Post they were "concerned that his nephews -- the brothers of imprisoned terrorist Ramzi Yousef -- may be positioned to take over planning of future terror attacks." They named two men: Abdul Munim and Abdul Karim. Nothing further has been reported about Abdul Munim, but Abdul Karim proved a key figure. Captured in May 2004, his interrogation led to further arrests and the discovery of a major plot against US financial centers. Thus, the official U.S. position holds that a family essentially forms the core expertise for the major attacks that began with the 1993 Trade Center bombing, culminated in 9/11, and even continued afterwards. Yet no precedent exists for a single family to be the sole, or even the key, source of expertise for a major terrorist group. According to U.S. intelligence, this family is Baluch, a Sunni Muslim people, living in Eastern Iran and Western Pakistan (The Path to 9/11 erroneously identifies Yousef as Palestinian.) Following Yousef's arrest in Islamabad, the New York Times reported: The Pakistan newspaper, The News, which is said to have good sources in the Pakistani military's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, said that "if features could betray geography," Mr. Yousef appeared to Pakistani investigators "as if he is from the coastal belt of Baluchistan."...[They] had noted that President Saddam Hussein's Government in Iraq had tried to exploit animosities against the Iran Government among Baluch tribal people in southeastern Iran during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s. The newspaper said this could explain how Mr. Yousef came into possession of the Iraqi passport that he used when he arrived in New York in September 1992, six months before the World Trade Center bombing. "If Ramzi is in fact of Iranian Baluch origin, it would not have been big problem for him to get an Iraqi passport," the newspaper said. [February 13, 1995] Yet the Clinton administration did not want to hear this. (In the 1992 presidential campaign, I was Clinton's adviser on Iraq; in later encounters with the White House, I found it strongly resistant to hearing about evidence linking Saddam to terrorism.) ...
A good documentary which covers the links between Yousef, KSM and 9/11 is 'The Secrete History of 9/11' [video=youtube;MVh9WgGxuIY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVh9WgGxuIY[/video]
'Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today I wish, I wish he’d go away...'
Ha, for a year and a half this was perhaps the only thread without one single reply. Darn you scherado! What possessed you to bump perhaps the only place on the internet that combined KSM's preponderance of Times interviews in one post? btw- Laura Myrolie is not even right twice a day because for her it's always time for war. Saddam didn't supply US-AID in Karachi - which is a far more likely source of funding for Baluchi seperatists. Ramzi could have received his Iraqi passport in Qatar for all we know.
This kind of disinfo only works on people who haven't seen the proof that 9/11 was an inside job. Once they've seen it, there's really nothing you can do to make them think that terrorists did it. It's been proven that the towers and building seven were destroyed by controlled demolition. http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....5j1.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.eMGg2Kw7tcI The craft that hit the Pentagon was too short to be a 757. http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm The nose of the craft that hit the Pentagon is not shaped like the nose of a 757. http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg This alone closes the whole case. Terrorists did not plan and carry out the 9/11 attacks. The US government planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDfxB9nUfDc Anyone who isn't a disinfo agent and still maintains that 9/11 wasn't an inside job should watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4
Total BS. Once any rational person has seen the evidence that the tin foilers have cobbled together, he must reach the conclusion that mental illness is contagious. It has also been proven that little Dickie and the AE911T people are charlatans. Little Dickie cannot even tell the difference between a Marine and a pedo. The dimwit who concocted that montage does not know his ischium from his olecranon. Actually, everything that I see there looks like part of a 757, except the white smoke from the damaged right engine, which looks more like any other mist being acted upon by a large airfoil. Never have I seen such a tightly-pressed pill of crap. There was not a single true statement in any of that. The video in the link is marked as "Private," probably because the short-bus-riding doofus who put it up got tired of all the much brighter kids with IQs over 80 calling him an idiot.
That link used to lead to this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xzmprkpxac If this one disappears too, try doing a YouTube search on, "Why Can't They See The Truth? Psychologists Help 9 11 Truth Deniers".
Scott, yet again copy/pastes his spam into threads which have nothing to do with the topic. Admin should delete it.
Did he also make one called, "Why can Twoofers find the evidence?" I think that would be more appropriate.
I pointed out that the whole idea of the thread was based on a wrong assumption. That's not going off-topic. Deleting my input would be blatant censhorship.
If there is any 'whole idea of this thread'; it doesn't concern KSM being an actual mastermind. That was me being facetious. At 5 foot 4 and over 200 pounds KSM would resemble more of a mailbox. C' mon; here we are on page two and still not one responsible assumption as to how and why KSM (the next new and improved mastermind) is the only eyewitness giving statements to what looks like different Time outlets during Ramzi's arrest in 1995 - before the media decided to call them the al Qaeda that they never even heard of.
Why are we talking about KSM at all? If he wasn't behind, maybe he'd say that in court. He isn't, however, he's taking credit for it and asking for the death penalty. So what is it truthers? Is KSM, himself, lying about planning\executing 9/11? Why do truthers require everyone to lie in order for their story to be true?
So if people aren't cosmetically appealing they can't be intelligent? How much sense does that make? Who said he's "The only eyewitness"? Maybe he's the only one that came forward? Maybe he got their attention to help spread the word of the "wrongful arrest"? Maybe he was pushing an agenda. This is a ridiculous strawman and makes no sense.
That would make no sense whatsoever. I think it was Victor Borges that first used the symbolism "She was short and stout like a mailbox." It fits KSM. I'm sure Khaled received a very fine engineering education at that Baptist college he attended even if he did look like a mailbox with shoes. I did. That was me. Khaled Shaikh and Khalid Azim are the same person...KSM. Yes, apparently. What 'wrongful arrest'? KSM is talking like a casual eyewitness. You found an agenda in KSMs statements? Was it anti-American? What you're implying didn't actually happen; so no, it doesn't make sense. Nice attempt though.
No idea what this has to do with anything. K K I mean, unless you can't tell, it blatantly looks to me like he's saying that he was innocent. As far as the rest, I don't really care if you think KSM is a "time traveller" or whatever ridiculous point it is you're trying to make. Even if any of this is true, it doesn't change the fact that 19 terrorists performed 9/11. This is just a red herring, all of it. None of it has any relevance at all.
Aw now plague, you know the red highlights are KSM quoting Ramzi. What I see is a hairy mailbox that isn't confronting the media but collaborating with color commentary and confirming that we got our man (his supposed nephew). Of course, none of this fits into the conventional paradigm which is where I find it relevant.
