Ice Cream Plant closing down due to Obamacare

Both Papa Johns and YUM! brands (pizza hut) are headquartered and run from my city. When Papa made his statement and acted on it, everyone I know stopped ordering pizza from them, and switched over to the Hut......good job idiot.

 

Obviously nothing in the Donk platform actively works to do anything about misplaced workers excepting to add a few million more by illegal immigration. Which, excuse me, does address misplaced workers by creating competition for non-existent jobs.

 

A company that isn't making enough money can blame anything for their failure as an enterprise and that is understood. The fact is that if their ice cream is good enough then they can sell it for premium prices and can afford to furnish federally subsidized health insurance for their full time employees. Consumers demand "value" in the products they purchase and, based upon how small businesses operate apparently Bonnie Doon wasn't providing enough value for their product. Had they been then providing subsidized health insurance for their full time employees wouldn't have been a problem at all.

 

ANOTHER propaganda piece by the billionaires opposed to Obamacare, doing its best to spread fear and uncertainty by a mantra of fear!

I guess we should really salute the national coordination of an effort that can tie EVERY business closure in the country, no matter HOW unconnected with Obamacare, on Obamacare!

Kudoes, Rightie Propaganda Forces! Your false and smearing campaign of lies to indict ANY help for the regular citizens of the USA is once again a success!

 

What does the picture on Post #3 have to do with ice cream, health care schemes, or jobs?

 

I like that thought process, how many food stamp recipients purchase ice cream? Should we take their food stamps for purchasing something unhealthy?

 

And outsiders who are counting on a free ride under ObamaCare can ignore any evidence that does not fit their chosen narrative.

There is such a thing as the straw that breaks the camels back and that seems to be what happened with this company struggling to stay afloat in a tough economy.

 

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regular citizens?

dont worry obama will take care of you

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Once again, I've pointed out, that was a local franchise owner talking about his store, not about how many people are at the ice cream plant.

Actually, I have been against free trade agreements even under Bush which are nothing more than job transfer programs and money giveaways by ending tariffs that should be used to enforce fairness.

I think it is funny to see the denial in the face of all the evidence. Even if the story is about business closure due to the ACA, it couldn't possibly be true.

As for Papa John's Pizza, you may have to eat your words when Pizza Hut or Dominos or other franchises come out saying the same thing in the coming months.

Yeah, I read the article. And if you read it and all my other responses you would know that the franchise owner has way less than 50 employess and that he will reopen but only after finding a new ice cream supplier. Now who looks foolish?

Changing my handle and calling me a liar inside my quotations is a violation of forum rules. Why is it every liberal cannot read that the franchise owner is the one with less than 50 employees? Do we have a problem with reading comprehension because of public school education?

The article clearly states that the number one reason for closure is Obamacare. I fail to see how you can say that it is a propaganda piece by billionaires or how it is a "false and smearing campaign of lies".

 

You do.
The title of YOUR thread:
"Ice Cream Plant closing down due to Obamacare"
Yes, I know you were just doing what you do normally, but come on don't you think people will actually read the article and see that the orginal claim is based on a Falsehood?

 

Yes, the ice cream plant is closing as you yourself state. That is what the article is about. Why is there a disconnect for you here? What original claim and falsehood are you talking about? You can click on the link and read the entire article if you are still confused.

 

I already did read the article and pointed out what you said and what is happening are not correct, maybe you should have read it slower and simply walked away, instead you thought it said something you agreed with, too bad you were wrong. ACA had ZERO to do with their business, but they did Think something Might happen Eventually, ROTFLMAO![/B]

 

One more government-imposed cost polished off their profit margin, so they cut their losses and shut down.

 

You're right. The only direct reference to the plant closing is the journalist claiming the owners had said the ACA was the primary cause of it closing but they're neither named nor quoted so who knows? It bounces around between plant and franchise so much it's almost as if they were trying to trick people.

The point remains that what the franchise owner is saying (or what the article presents him as saying) about the impact of the ACA on his business is speculative and inconsistent.

 

What losses?

 

I think you must be reading wrong article because it clearly states:

You are stating facts which are not present in the article. Can you quote the article where is says, "ACA had ZERO to do with their business"?

 

OMG, having to buy health insurance for your hard working employees???

tragedy!!! disaster!!!

 

Yes, the journalist does seem like a bit of a novice. Too bad skilled professional journalists from the main stream media are completely disinterested in telling the stories about how many jobs are lost due to Obamacare.

 

Well they´d have to work for their welfare if I had the choice. I´d also consider giving out raw food ingredients so that they could cook and not recycle taxes into the hands of large corporations.

 

I agree with that too, when do we begin?

 

big businesses like this don't close just due to ObamaCare.

 

It wasn't their responsibility in the beginning. It was a way of getting companies to provide insurance for their employees instead of paying them a livable wage, so they could benefit from a tax break. Now because largely due to other government manipulating and meddling, health care costs are so high that even companies who crave tax breaks are not seeing a benefit to compensating employees with health care insurance.

So people are about to lose their insurance, not receive any additional compensation for the loss of their insurance, and being forced by government mandate to provide insurance for themselves while doing the same job for less money.

That is why this is a corporate wet dream. They make their employees casual part time, minimum wage drones, stop paying "any" benefits of any kind, and they don't have to worry about adjusting wages with raises since part time employees don't get pay increases, unless the minimum wage goes up.

Anybody who still believes the two party scam isn't a product of the rich/elites and corporate America, is completely retarded.

 

Lets flavor this story with a bit of truth:

From this article that was published prior to the closing:

http://www.southbendtribune.com/new...cle_dc988a66-352f-11e3-9ad2-0019bb30f31a.html

Bonnie Doon actually has fewer than 50 employees at it's business, but because it was purchased by a larger holding company it now falls under the ACA mandate. This isn't so much a story of a small business run out by the ACA, it's about a big holding company who bought them out and ran them into the ground. There are some other complications that factored in, such as one of the two Restaurants run by Bonnie Doon were closed due to road construction severely hurting sales, along with higher fuel prices and ever increasing material costs.

Those key functions had a bigger impact than the OP's story shows.

This was not as much about the ACA causing the closure, as it is about a sellout, and subsequent closure by big business.

 

If all it took for their company to fail was forcing them to provide healthcare to their workers then they weren't running a very good business model to begin with. Plenty of ice cream shops seem to be continuing on just fine.

 

150 years ago, Bonnie Doon would have closed and blamed it on the slaves being freed.

Don't worry, nobody's going to miss their ice cream. There will never be a shortage of cheap ice cream in Northern Indiana. Companies with ObamaCare will be making it.