What the american here and there think about the indepence of Quebec?

I'm wondering what the people around here in this forum and in the u.s think about that?

I'm not sure myself about this subject but the sure thing is: I don't want to be a trator.

I'm wondering if we should have the u.s support before doing such a thing here.

 

I am completely ignorant as to the political makings and doings of Canada.

 

I consider it an entirely internal matter for Quebec and Canada.

I personally think it is a bad idea, but not an American concern.

 

People on this forum aren't just americans.

I'd say go for independence if you want, you don't need the support of the US for that. It's not like they're gonna invade you or anything. UNLESS THERE'S OIL! no, jk, jk

 

So what are your views on a French speaking independent Quebec eh?

 

This quote just drips of pointless hatred.

 

Qu'est-ce que sais?

 

If we decide that we a country, the americain are going to say everywhere on tv and radio, books that we are a country?

I think we need u.s and France support to do that.

 

I'm cross-referencing who's saying it, their pasts posts and the level of misrepresentation that person spreads. Voilà pourquoi.

 

It makes sense to me. It would weaken Canada and we would get to renegotiate all-new economic agreements with the new state of Quebec, which we could use to get the best terms possible as Quebec by itself isn't very crucial to American interests. Divide and conquer (economically speaking).

 

I'm an ignorant, but I heard some rumor that 80% of our exportation goes to the U.S.
We are for sure not as high tech as the U.S but I believe this is a lot for the U.S.

 

Par ce que vous et cafard mon ami.

 

It's all talk and no action. I've heard about a separate Quebec since the 1960s.

The Quebecois are do-nothings. They know that without oil money from the western provinces, Quebec would dirt-poor.

 

We did 2 referendum. As almost pass.

 

"Almost" is still doing nothing. Even the goofy Arabs can do better than that.

 

We'll try to do better.

 

I have no views on quebec in partilcular, but as a general principle any people that desires independence should be able to have a vote on it, and have the results of that vote accepted no matter the outcome. If the quebecois want independence that's their business, though personally I'd say that it's more practical to just opt for more autonomy within canada.

Why wouldn't they acknowledge an independent quebec if a referendum showing that most wanted independence was held? Considering that national self determination is part of international law it would be rather controversial for the US, or any other western country, to ignore it. And what would the USA lose by an independent quebec? In my view, nothing that could ever weigh more than the costs of not recognising the national self determination of the quebecois. In short, after a cost and benefit analysis (in not only economic terms but also diplomatic) the US would gain by recognisng quebec. same for france.

 

Being part of Canada is an insulating blanket that protects Quebec and its unique culture from the sort of wholesale dismantling that independence would engender as the defences and preferences they gained from the Canadian federation are removed and Quebec is required to stand without them. Quebec has far more influence in North American culture and politics than it would ever have as a quaint little lonely french speaking nation among giants.

Its crazy for Quebec to leave Canada. What would it accomplish?
It might make some small majority of the population happy about themselves for a while but after that?

 

Then you as a citizen of the great country of Sweden wouldn't mind Swedish Muslims citizens demanding their independence and taking over part(s) of Sweden? How about an independent Malmo, or Goteborg eh?

 

I would mind that actually, a lot in fact. But you're not seriously comparing the quebecois to muslims immigrants I hope?

 

Merci, mon ami

 

Then why are you so hypocritical about the French speaking citizens of Quebec, especially when there are other Canadians living in that city? The fact is that Acadians not only live in Quebec, they are all over Canada and the U.S. Should the U.S. cede areas of Louisiana to the Acadian population living there too?

 

And so, why not have another?


Please, let us end the debate, the uncertainty. Time to abandon the teaching of the federalist traitor Rene Levesque who should have never caved and offered a referendum and forge ahead. Establish your own economy, have your own agreements with Britain, the US, and enjoy a seat in the United Nations next to Qatar.

But, the US won't support it, as an independent Quebec is a threat to them. Quebec was the site of the first ever murderous act of political terror in North America, with the Kidnapping and murder of Pierre Laporte in 1970 and the kidnapping also in the name of separatism, of Jasper Cross, the British Trade Commissioner, so you won't have British support either. And for the record, NAFTA kind of shuts the door on either Mexico or the US recognizing ANY province as an independent state, a measure designed to prevent BC and Alberta from taking their oil and gas and starting out alone, which makes excellent economic sense.

Quebec independence is a dream, a myth, based on voodoo sociology and bad economics. Quebec, the province, takes over $1 billion annually OUT of the Canadian economy, it cannot survive on its exports, there are only so many Cirque du Soleil troupes the world can absorb.

And then there's the small issue of the legality and the Supreme Court ruling on the need for a clearly worded referendum which will never fly. And then the still to be heard issue of and whether Montreal and Hull, where all the federal civil servants live, can separate from Quebec if Quebec can separate from Canada, since both cities had charters before the province.

And there is the little matter of whether the current Parti Quebecois government, in minority and pushing an atheist/racist agenda will be in power much longer with the growing support of their left wing enemies, the NDP and the young, pot smoking Mr. Trudeau climbing the poles.

Quebec has no "national sport", so the eternal debate/fantasy of being "sovereign" must forge ahead. It is to Montreal's sidewalk cafes and Brasseries what baseball is to Americans; a sleepy past time that every season or so becomes fodder for discussion of the un-involved, the curious and cause for our neighbors to ask "what the F***, again?"...but is otherwise harmless anymore, so long as the separatists continue to refrain from bombing banks and mailboxes and kidnapping people.

 

Mweh. Really don't care. I've always known you guys as Canadians, and will still call you Canadians, but if a majority of Quebec wants to separate then they should, just as if a majority of South Carolina wants to separate then they should. I believe that the authority of the government comes from the people.

Plus, you guys are pretty distinct from the rest of Canadia.

 

If Quebec can do it without resorting to revolution, that is a lot better then the "goofy Arabs."