You claim that God does not exist, part 2.

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  1. FirstTake

    FirstTake New Member Past Donor

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    I do not believe the God of the Bible, the Qu'ran, the Torah, exists.
     
  2. Prof_Sarcastic

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    You are the one who has so far proved unable to answer my simple question about Shiva.
     
  3. Heretic

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    I know you atheists need constant reminders, since you're so forgetful.

    This thread is about YOUR DEFINITION, the ATHEIST definition of God, not my definition of Shiva. Once we clear this matter up, then I'll answer more of your questions about Shiva, or any other divine entity.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    [satire]

    How do you KNOW you don't know??????????????? What IS it you don't know?????????????????HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU DON'T KNOW??????????????????? CAN'T ANSWER THAT SIMPLE QUESTION, CAN YOU ??????????????????????????????? THEREFORE GOD MUST EXIST AND YOU'RE GOING TO HELL YOU STUPID SINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus [/satire]
     
  5. Steady Pie

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    Lol.

    It's the same sort of thing as aliens. There's a lot of sketchy evidence (UFO sightings, supposed abductions, etc), but the only answer I feel is honest is "I don't know if aliens exist". Same with any sort of God.
     
  6. Sab

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    Yes.
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    Actually we claim that we do not beleive that God exists. Obviously you are too stupid to understand the difference. We don't beleive in
    We are all more intelligent than you, thats for sure.

    No. I define "God" as a Character from "The Bible" who is a supernatural being, begotten not created, whom from all things are made and through his only begotten son, Jesus Christ brings forth mankind to salvation. Its similar to Yahweh and Allah also characters variations of the same book
    Yup that we are real and "god" isn;t
    I don;t claim that God is impossible.

    I answer every question you pose

    We don;t hate god because we don;t beleive in God.
    I am an atheist and you claerly have no idea.
     
  7. ringotuna

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    At the outset the question would seem to be the ultimate paradoxical "gotcha", an unanswerable question, but really it's not because it's purports the false idea that it is incumbent upon atheists to define that which they do not believe exists. It is a false application of onus probandi. Responsibility for defining a God is on the shoulders of those who believe, which they have already done in a variety of ways. So, can the atheist answer the question? Absolutely and quite elegantly, to wit, "I'm not beholden to define that in which YOU believe. You are welcome to present your own definition and I will respond to that specific belief."
     
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    Atheist's don't claim , observations with physical and electronic instruments indicate that there is no such thing as a god now the burden of proof falls on the theists.

    The only argument that holds enough water is that god is not observable because FSM created the universe after drinking heavily .
     
  9. Prof_Sarcastic

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    I already answered your question though. Twice. And I was merely pointing just one of your blatant lies.
     
  10. taikoo

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    Who is it that is said to be the father of lies, and who are his followers who emulate him?

    wolves in sheeps clothing i think was one term. for some of them, the cammies fool the one wearing it. weird, huh?
     
  11. Heretic

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    What cowardice

    Pages upon pages of non-answers from atheists, who fear defining God according to atheism. Why? It becomes too obvious. Atheists don't want to define God, because they know, deeply, that their own ignorance becomes exposed immediately. Many pathetic atheists attempt to define God as a "fictional" character, Santa Clause, flying spaghetti monster, darth vader, whatever. Why is God "fictional"? Where are athiests getting their definitions?

    It obviously is not TRUE CHRISTIANITY!!! Because Christians do not define God as fictional or unreal or impossible. So there is something amiss here. Why are atheists compelled to define God as impossible nothingness?

    WHERE are atheists getting this definition from?

    It's because atheists KNOW God exists, but, don't want to believe in Him. That's why. And atheists need to do whatever mental acrobatics they can flip and spin about, to dodge this question. It really shows the childish ignorance of the atheist, before God. The Atheist, when confronted by God, wants to stick his or her head in the ground. The atheist wants to define God as "magical unicorn".

    That is what atheism WANTS, not what atheism accomplishes. Atheism only accomplishes childish redefinitions of God. Because Atheists so badly, so vainly, do not want Him to exist. They know He exists, but, since they hate God so much, want to redefine Him in a way suitable to their own personal interests and desires.

    This is why atheists, like Wolverine, are so childish and want to define God in stupid, ridiculous, childish ways to mock Him.


    Imagine redefining your own parents. Your mother is no longer your mother. She is "fictional". She is "impossible". Does this change her existence? No, it only changes the definition.

    No matter how much you atheists try to redefine your mother, as an example, it does not change reality and existence. So you atheists are exposed for the foolishness of your religion. This atheist religion is a complete joke.
     
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    You believe in God... others don't..

    How do they "redefine" what they don't believe in? You are simply being an objectionable curmudgeon.

    Most of us KNOW our mothers.
     
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    Look at it this way, God is not necessary to present a reasonably coherent picture of how this universe operates. God is not needed to explain any aspect of it. So that means that God is not necessary in the atheist's perspective on reality.
     
  14. Heretic

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    And most of us know our Great Father who art in Heaven!

    Yet you continue to dodge the question, how TYPICAL of you!!!
     
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    I happen to believe in God, but I know an irrational bully when I see one.. and that is what your DEMAND constitutes.

    You could have titled this thread: Do you believe in God? ..... Instead of You claim that God does not exist.
     
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    Everyone posting in this thread has given you an answer.
    Myself, gave the answer, the keeper/guardian of the blackhole.

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    Then there are those that claim the aliens are what some define as God.
     
  17. Heretic

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    Atheists are the true bullies here, look how much they MOCK God and spit on the beliefs of true faith!!!

    So I put the bullies into their places. It is justifiable to bully the bullies. My demand matches the hate cast by the atheists. If somebody like me did not defend the faith then who knows how atheists would extend their depravity? If you think atheists are ONLY CONTENTED with mockery then you're wrong. Atheists do much more than ATTEMPT TO mock God. There is no limit nor depth to the depravity of atheists.

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    I know you did, I'm mainly referring to the COWARDS who refuse offering a definition, while they insult God and TRUE Christians at the same time. I'm attacking the deceitful ones, not you.

    You show courage to offer a definition, unlike most others here.
     
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    Funny, Wanren in another thread said pretty much the same thing. Yet neither of you to ever post in the same threads. To confirm what was said or to correct.

    AS I stated, most if not all, gave you a definition.
     
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    Heretic, go take your drugs. You aren't making any sense. Obviously you just want to bash atheists because we don't follow your version of god.

    It was a little fun at first, but now you're just boring.

    Why isn't believing in god enough for you? Why do you try to force your belief on everyone else? Chill out.
     
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    I think he has went over to the dark side, but, the lack of subtelty shows he doesnt know it yet
     
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    That would explain it....
     
  22. Heretic

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    What's wrong, atheists? You don't like it when your bullying and mocking get turned around back onto you???

    What do you think should happen when you keep denying a word you don't even understand, and refuse to define???
     
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    You have been behaving like an irrational bully with your demand that others define what they do not believe in.

    You should have titled your thread: Do you believe in God? NOT...You claim that God does not exist.
     
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    Let's see now. Heretic started this thread: All other posters entered the thread using their own initiative (in other words, all other posters voluntarily entered this thread); and now you are wanting to claim that Heretic is forcing his belief on everyone else. Wow. What kind of force did Heretic apply that caused you to voluntarily enter into a thread that Heretic started?
     
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    You atheists like to make stupid, false comparisons. So let's use YOUR logic here.

    Santa Clause, a large, fate, jolly old guy in a red jumpsuit. I can "not believe in him". But he can exist. See, look, there's a fat, old jolly guy in a red jumpsuit, is it Santa??? Santa can exist. Because you take these ideas, and separate them. Do fat, jolly guys exist? Yes. Do old guys exist? Yes. Do nice, giving guys exist? Yes.

    So what part of "Santa Clause" doesn't exist???

    Something can exist, your atheist disbelief does not change existence. It does not refute existence.


    There are parameters to which Santa CAN exist, and may, and does. Is not the myth of Santa Clause based on a real person, a real man, now exaggerated in story?

    So how dare you atheists say God does not exist, while you also, REFUSE to define Him? Cowardice, double standards, hate, hypocrisy, irrationality. You atheists have a lot of nerve.

    You cannot claim that something does exist that you also REFUSE to define!!! And once you atheists begin to take responsibility for your selves, fat chance I know, then you will understand how you CHOOSE TO DEFINE HIM, changes you. You atheists CHOOSE to define God in ridiculous, childish manners, because it flatters yourselves. That is the ONLY reason you do this.

    You have NO REASON to define God in such stupid ways as you do....

    Flying spaghetti monster???? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's so stupid.

    How dare you? How do you atheists have the nerve????
     
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