Here’s How The GOP Fools The Tea Party: GOP Votes To Disapprove of Selves

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  1. Agent_286

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    Here’s How The GOP Fools The Tea Party: GOP Votes To Disapprove of Selves

    Reuters/Joshua Roberts, Salon.com, WED. OCT 30, 2013 08:30 AM EDT
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    “On Tuesday, the Senate held a vote on a “resolution to disapprove” of raising the debt limit. The resolution failed 45-54. The 45 disapprovers were all Republicans. Twenty-seven of the Republicans voting to disapprove of raising the debt limit also voted, just a few weeks ago, to raise the debt limit.

    Do those 27 Republican senators disapprove of their own votes because raising the debt limit turned out to be a terrible mistake with disastrous consequences? No. They voted to disapprove of their own actions because a group of loud and angry people disapprove of their actions.

    The face-saving “resolution to disapprove” measure seems to derive from a 2011 McConnell idea that would have preserved the debt limit as a grandstanding ploy without actually risking default.

    In McConnell’s plan, the president would be allowed to increase the debt limit a little bit at a time, and Congress would then vote on whether to disapprove of the raises. It’s actually pretty brilliant politics, as it would have done two things:

    • Forced President Obama to raise the debt limit, which is always politically unpopular, three times in one (election) year.

    •Allowed every single Republican in Congress to vote against raising the debt limit without worrying that the U.S. would actually default.

    Naturally, McConnell’s plan was declared rank RINOism and it went nowhere. This was in part because some conservatives believed that the plan removed the possibility of extracting massive concessions in exchange for raising the limit, but also because there simply are a lot of conservatives who oppose raising the limit at all, ever.

    The result of not listening to McConnell: Republicans had to vote to raise the debt limit anyway, conservatives now feel betrayed, right-wing Senate primary challenges are more likely, and non-far-right voters have more reason to be scared of allowing Republicans to govern."

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    http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/heres_how_they_fool_the_tea_party_gop_votes_to_disapprove_of_selves/
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    IMO: Heh, now I have heard everything concerning the tparty gullibility. They are just illogical children running amuck in adult-land. Further, they are a dying cult that is already a dinosaur of the current age...because they don’t have a workable plan.

    They also do not have any sense of moral integrity in their dealings with other members of Congress. They are incapable of negotiating even the time of day, they take daily orders from their bosses without even negotiating with other members of their own House or Senate.

    They are like the ‘Crazy Uncles’ that every family has, but are usually kept in an upstairs room, or the garage.

    The tparty is simply not ready for prime time because of an ambiguous changing daily course of action that instantly negates any serious consideration of what they are trying to say. A prime example of tparty gravitas is Ted Cruz who is inflaming all the idiot cousins, but does not come up with even a solution as to How To Tie Your Own Shoe-Laces.
     
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    998 characters, 175 words, 8 sentences, 4 paragraphs ...of nothing. Just ranting on and on and saying nothing of substance.


    That article talks about face-saving and that's really what its all about. You have to let President Obama look like hes winning. Some of the demands that the Tea Party was making regarding the ACA are being met and more are on the way. You really just have to let President Obama look like hes winning.
     
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    McConnell is going down in the primaries.
     
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    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr2775/text

    It passed in the CAA. Even a cursory check at the disapproval vote you're citing would turn this up, as they cite it rather explicitly.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hjres99

    They didn't so much vote to raise the debt limit. They voted to allow the President to raise the debt limit, subject to their disapproval. In short, they created a 3 day window under which the McConnel Rule that you cited, was in place. This is, in fact, exactly what they voted for.
     
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    Sounds like a dog bites man story- i.e. progressive hates Tea Party.
     
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    That is how propaganda works and how the radical liberal extremists roll.
     

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