You claim that God does not exist, part 2.

No. I'm asking you, how are you determining whether the FAM exists...what reasoning or logic?

No, that's not my claim. My claim is, none has been presented that has been proved. NONE.

Nice try at shifting the burden of proof, however, if such evidence WERE to exist, you would have produced it...and since no one has, there is no logical reason to believe any mythical sky fairy exists.

If Atheism is a religion, what do Atheists worship? Atheism is a single position on a single issue. Again, nice try.

 

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How so...?



Revelation 22
Amplified Bible (AMP)

22 :3 There shall no longer exist there anything that is accursed (detestable, foul, offensive, impure, hateful, or horrible). But the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall worship Him [pay divine honors to Him and do Him holy service].

 

Pax Romana?

Pax Romana (Latin for "Roman peace") was the long period of relative peace and minimal expansion by military force experienced by the Roman Empire in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD. Since it was established by Caesar Augustus it is sometimes called Pax Augusta. Its span was about 206 years (27 BC to 180 AD).[1

 

Sorry no, you thinking of something doesn't make it exist.

 

God is the being that your holy crap book is talking about.

 

Obviously a better reasoning and logic than what you are using. What is the "FAM"? Who has mentioned an "FAM"?

None that has been presented has been proven to be false. NONE.

Nice try indeed. Leaning on speculation (speculating on what me or others might have done) is just your avoidance of the issue.

Self. The single issue is the dogma of one religion (yours --Atheists) being in a struggle with another (Theism). Nice try.

 

Sorry, that was meant to be FSM, I hit the wrong key.

"Obviously a better reasoning and logic than what you are using.." well then, you should be able to tell me how that same reasoning an logic is not applied to your belief in god.

Really?...then show me the evidence that has withstood review.

Still can't locate that evidence?

So, knowing Theism is nothing more than emotional belief not rooted in evidence and facts, you attempt to claim Atheism is the same because you are unable to provide proof of position as in, misery loves company.[/quote]

Sorry, Atheism is nothing more than a single position on one single issue. Fact is, you're an Atheist too, I just don't acknowledge one more mythical sky fairy than you.

 

One has no way of knowing if all the minds on this forum are real. Therefore, one may have no belief in them as they are not real even though there is written existence of their presence. Likewise, one should have have no belief in any dead book author either even though corroborative statements of his/her existence are given.

 

Aren't they all.

 

I suspected that it might have been a typo, but wanted to be certain. After all, there are all sorts of new terms being manufactured nowadays.
I do use the same reasoning and logic with my belief in God as I do for not believing in the FSM. That reasoning and logic involves 'knowing'. You see, the FSM has not provided me with any special or secret or private knowledge, therefore I have no reason to even suspect that the FSM is true or real.

The Bible itself is sufficient evidence. No one has been able to categorically and irrefutably declare that the contents of the Bible are false.. Numerous rationalizations have been presented with the attached label of 'refuted', but even in those so-called refutations there has been no irrefutable evidence presented to declare that the Bible is false. Those alleged refutations are merely the opinions of people who are opposed to God and the teachings of the Bible.

See the paragraph above.

Wrong! 'Knowing' does not incorporate 'emotions' as a foundation. 'Emotions' are very often misleading. "Knowing" will set aside any emotive forces and will rely upon information and instructions, which in the case of some Theists, is private or secret knowledge as previously pointed out. Example was established in the discussion about Abraham and his instructions to offer his son as a sacrifice. Abraham was able to set aside the emotive forces which normally would have caused him to rebel against the instruction of God. As a reward for not falling into the emotional trappings, Abraham was not required to make that sacrifice.

On the contrary. I fully believe that God is true and real. I also don't acknowledge any "mythical sky fairy". Therefore, yours must be an admission to having at least one "mythical sky fairy"... ie... the FSM. If you did not believe in the FSM, then you would be telling a lie in saying that there is one. Another of your mythical sky fairies would be Russell's Teapot. If you did not believe in the Russell's Teapot, then you would be telling a lie in saying that there is one. To rationalize, an Atheist might say that the FSM is/was only an analogy. Which in turn verifies that a lie was told intentionally and subsequently a clean up (excuse) was needed to hide the existence of the lie.

 

Except nope. Here is a list of wars that involved Rome

Roman-Persian Wars 6-29CE
Roman conquest of Britain About 43CE
First Jewish–Roman War about 66CE
Roman Civil War of 68-69 CE

Roman-Persian Wars
First Dacian War 101 CE
Second Dacian War 105 CE
Kitos War 115 CE
Bar Kokhba's revolt 132 CE
Marcomannic Wars 166-180 CE
Roman Civil War of 193-197 CE

Pax Romana was about the idea that if you attacked Rome, retribution was swift, harsh and deadly for you and every one you knew. There was no peace. Good lerd

 

Kind of like Pax America

 

You trying to win today's "(*)(*)(*)(*)ty Analogy" prize?

 

it would've been ok if he'd put a but im afeard he meant it.

 

Are you a bot?

 

God is a concept, not a person, place, or thing.
God is an Ideal.

God is Truth.

John 14:6 "I am the Truth, the way, and the Life"...

 

But people today do now believe in Truth, because they realize that there is one almighty Reality for us all.
We all experience the exact same Reality which unfolds from moment to moment.

We KNOW Reality exists and is the same for us all because of the Scientific Method, which allows everyone to observe the same evidence when the same experimental situation is set up.

Truth is that which corresponds to this Reality, and today, sane people can see some of the truths and believe in a Reality as opposed to Fantasy Land.

 

True,... those were all Police Actions, like the Korean War in Pax Americana.

But the term Pax Romana REFERRES to peace inside of Rome, the absence of civil wars within the extensive Empire spanning estern Europe:


"The Pax Romana began with the accession of Augustus in 27 BC, which marked the end of the Roman Republic and its final civil wars, and lasted until 180 AD at the death of Marcus Aurelius."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Romana

 

Yes,...
Very much like today, without the Draft.

For most everyone, there is no more War.
The younger generation just, "Hell, won't go."

True, we send the 'police," especially since 911.
We pay private mercenaries lime Blackwater and military contractors, and our paid soldiers, but for us,... peace and no fear of fighting an enemy.

 

How is that the whole world?

 

That does give a chuckle, looking at the robot avatar.

 

Hmmm,...
In ancient tomes the Whole World was considered the Roman Empire or what is now Europe.

 

Still...I don't really know if you are real or not. I believe you are but, that's about as far as it goes. Others may or may not assume you are real but there is no real proof. So, to me, you are real because I BELIEVE it. Get it now?

 

Of course you know nothing except what your mind can figure out.

Your seven senses bring you information from the external world, and you, alone inside the skull, try to make something out of those messages.
If and when your rationalizations conform with what actually does exist "out there,"... you have a spirit-like mental image that in True.

Otherwise, you are wrong, and your PERCEPTIONS are erroneous.

But, the Reality is, I am.

 

Atheists as a group do not worship themselves, it is deeply, deeply dishonest to say this.