Gay rights bill heads for first hurdle in Senate

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  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because if I send a ridiculous looking tranny into most areas, my competition will win the contracts... because, and I know this might sound crazy, men wearing poofy dresses is unprofessional.

    Again... if you show up looking disheveled with a wrinkled tie, unshaven with your hair mussed... I will not hire you. That I have to explain this seems surreal to me. Trannys make a lot of people very nervous. Probably most. It is putting sexuality before business. It is unprofessional to talk about sexuality, much less be a walking representation of protest to established gender rolls worldwide, while still conforming to them. There is nothing born in a person that says "I want to wear a dress and wear lipstick" male or female. Cross dressing is in and of itself conforming to social stereotyping of femininity and beauty.

    But I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the politics... this is considering social fashion dissenters a protected class.

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    Except in court, with a lawyer I am paying.
     
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    This just leads to another topic: tort reform. Which desperately needs to happen, particularly a loser pays system. Even in this situation though, the burden of proof falls on the plaintiff and if you're savvy, that's virtually impossible.
     
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    Worse thing about these laws is that if a gay shows up looking disheveled with a wrinkled tie, unshaven with your hair mussed, you run the risk of legal action when you decide not to hire them.
     
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    Only if they can A) afford a lawyer (which if they're looking for work, the answer is likely no) B) can prove that the reason they weren't hired was for a discriminatory reason, which isn't very easy.
     
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    All the plaintiff has to do is show a disparate impact upon the minority in question, and the burden shifts to the defendant to prove the absence of discrimination.
     
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    I believe all states have administrative procedures for filing a complaint that doesnt require an attorney, when it comes to discrimination claims in employment.And will usually provide them if needed to those who cannot afford one. Usually pressuring both sides to settle the case to avoid the expense of the courts.
     
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    Because lawyers don't take cases on basis of 1/3 if they win. All those ambulance chasers require up front retainers...
     
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    The complaint has to have merit, it won't be any different than any other type of discrimination. Operate on the up and up and generally there's nothing to worry about. I'll admit however that yes, some discrimination cases are fought and won or settled that have have no merit.
     
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    My experience over the years is 5 out of 5 with no merit.
     
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    Gays are not denied anything, except in false narratives like this one with words that give a false impression like 'discrimination', 'bias', 'gay rights', its all a bunch of crap that makes hero's of perverts and sexual deviants while those who support such drivel are allowing their souls to be consumed with utter degeneracy.
     
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    First, this is purely anecdotal and second given the biases you wear on your sleeve here, I'm not the least bit surprised and question whether or not they were or were not without merit.
     
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    Good. A politician with a conscience and a brain and the balls to use them. I applaud him him for it and for not being cowed by the lunatic fringe.
     
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    I wasnt the one who made the determination they had no merit.
     
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    Let them have it. No more distractions like this. The mid terms need to be about immigration and Obamacare. Take the issue away by letting them have it.
     
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    Now, let's hear what else is in this very important legislation.
     
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    You most certainly cannot, if that was the case there would be no more racism, sexism, or religious intolerance. You can try to curb the negative effects of it through laws but people will still hate and thats not tolerance.
     
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    Ohh I understand working for someone who hates you if you need a job, but I would be doing my best to find something better all the time... Longing for the day I can say adios to the bigot.
     
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    Boehner is likely just representing his constituents, which is fine. If most people in his district are against it he should vote against it.

    However, since polls show a majority of Americans support DOMA, if he blocks a vote on this or the House ultimately votes against it, it's clear that the people in the House of Representatives aren't doing their job of representing the people.
     
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    Yawn. Nobody cares. 17 down. 33 to go. It is inevitable.
     
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    Um - any sales person who applies for a job looking "ridiculous" wouldn't get hired, regardless if they were a transexual or not (unless maybe it was for a world wide wrestling job).

    The transexual that transitioned at my company is a darned good looking woman now; you'd hire her in a second.
     
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    Oh my GAWD, an AIDS CARRIER!!!!! It's not (*)(*)(*)(*)ing spread through the air, it's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing spread by (*)(*)(*)(*)ing. Avoid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing your AIDS CARRIER co-employee and your risk is zero. Do you really gotta be told this stuff??
     
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    What a load of crap. LGBTs are still discriminated against. And usually by people like you.

    And by the way - being LGBT isn't being a pervert nor a sexual deviant.
     
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    But... But... It disgusts me and makes me feel uncomfortable, plus this 2,000 year old book that was written by men but totally dictated by God tells me it's EVUL! Even though it condones slavery and treating women like crap... That's just "old stuff" in the New Testament we don't follow no more!... But gays! >:/
     
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    If gay men weren't so obsessed with talking about their gayness... this wouldn't even be an issue... because nobody would know they're gay.

    It's like pinning a big sign on their chest LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!!

    Then crying 'cuz somebody looked at 'em.
     
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    People get fired and bullied for being perceived as gay all the time - whether they are or aren't in fact homosexual in their orientation.

    That it has to be confirmed by the person to ascertain, is no more relevant to this debate than a person who is discriminated against for their religion. You could argue the same - if Christians didn't make such a big song and dance about their personal beliefs perhaps they would not face so much "discrimination"...
     

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