Couple beaten by group of teens tells their story

Foolish to turn your claim of "cultural difference" into "what would cause the US more problems".

Unless of course, moving the goalposts is the only way to support your claims.


There is a difference between "black culture and white culture being vastly different", and someone saying "blacks (or Latinos) are a bigger problem for the country".

I wish you success in getting the thread derailed though.

 

Canadians carry this inferiority complex, as all they are known for on the plus side are hockey pucks and peat moss. In that stubby bravado, they stepped into a comparison of their country verses ours. Where 3% of their population is black, while the US is over 14%, with Canada having the lower crime rates, actually bolstering the argument they originally tried to undermine.

Apparently they do have those rascally Frenchies to deal with ............................. and God knows those frogs are a menace !! .........

 

Don't get mad about it, just accept it.
No one is bragging about ignorance, he is just making a very obvious point.
People outside of Canada don't really care about Canada.
Canada has zero affect on the world, so it isn't paid attention to. Be glad. Not angry.

As far as your oil, you are correct that most of our oil comes from Canada, and when you cut it off more oil will come from the middle east.
Worst case, we finally use the oil we are sitting on.

If you think holding oil over our heads is anything more than ridiculous... you are wrong.

 

He told me that Americans didn't give a **** about Canada. I was merely informing him of his ignorance. Americans really don't know anything about other countries. That insularity leads to some incredibly ignorant statements - yours being one of them. You talk about Quebeckers like they are Canadians but happen to speak French and that's simply not the case. Their culture is completely different than ours. You can play the differences down all you want but the truth is you have absolutely no understanding of Canada or Canada's history. I have lived in the US, I love American politics, history and culture. That's why I'm here.

 

I changed my wording but I stick with my original assertion that the cultural differences are just as great. I'm not trying to derail the thread, I'm merely defending myself and my position. I'll continue to defend it because I'm confident in American insularity and the ignorance of Americans to anything outside their borders.

 

Canada is boring.

Maybe that's why slava29 spends most of his time here instead of there.

 

That would be easier than invading Detroit.

 

---I think that if we are honest with ourselves, we can admit two things: it is probable this was racially motivated, and that if the colors were reversed, the media attention would be different.

---Neglecting the fact that whites are discriminated against is a part of the reason why movements like White Nationalism gain traction. When society disenfranchises people they will seek enfranchisement elsewhere. Racial tensions won't get any better until it's accepted that middle class and poor whites are not the "favorite" or "chosen" people they are purported to be. The sharecropper and freeman have been at each other's throats long before I was born. There needs to finally be a resolution.

---Movements like White Nationalism do provide some good ideas and commendable attributes, but these gems are buried in a lot of muck, and rather than some participants sifting them out, they end up entrenched in an ideology that is potentially volatile for a lot of people. It's frustrating to have society refuse to acknowledge your struggles. This isn't any different than the reasons we see a lot of blacks and Mexicans turn to gangs. People crave affiliation, especially with those that understand them.

---Yes, I understand that blacks have their own dilemmas coming from their racial background. It's not my intent to diminish that fact. However, it seems to me that certain groups do not see the same scrutiny for certain things. There needs to be more consistency across the board, and in every context.

 

Why not walk down MLK and share the racist hate you're brave to spout here? Go be superior in real life and find out that you are part of the problem.

 

You really need to stop with the personal attacks,

Look, I asked you to make a case of whether or not French-speaking minorities anywhere present a sub-culture characterized by considerably higher crime, bastard birth rates, homes without fathers, etc. This is significant to the discussion, as it is about crime endemic to certain sub-cultures, and the last two of my criteria combine to form the number one correlation to criminal predisposition. If you find a sub-culture with the highest rates of broken family structure, you will find the highest crime.

Otherwise, the thread is not about French speaking whites in Canada. Or Asians in Canada. Or Latinos in Canada. Or oil flowing from Canada.

OBTW, I have traveled plenty as a tourist. And while in the American military, I saw plenty of the parts of the world where tourists do not go. Get over yourself.

 

This is a product of culture, public education and minimum wage failure. Not racism.

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Perhaps you have stumbled into another point that you might have not expected. It is not just about "cultural difference", either between us and Canada, or English speaking Canadians and those darn Quebeckers. If it were just a matter of the scope of differences, then we'd both be under constant assault from our Chinese communities !

Its about those sub-cultures where the distinctions manifest themselves in ways that are destructive to the greater society. I do not expect to get mugged walking down CDG Blvd (Charles de Gaulle). But we both know that MLK Blvd presents an entirely more palpable cause for alarm. And it sure ain't the language.

 

Actually, after a bit more thought, I do believe that racism had something to do with this, and similar, attacks. The prey is often viewed as inferior to the prey. There is no question that many blacks view whites as physically inferior- a component of racism.

To say nothing of the belief of intolerance of the former fostered by most here.
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Would you include the politics of victimization in that group ?

 

I have spent at least 2 years in Bahamas, Australia, Jamaica, Florida, UK and Quebec (essentially a different country than the rest of Canada). I actually know what the world thinks of Canada. Yes, we are a fairly benign presence and I'm okay with that. What bothers me is when arrogant Americans say we don't matter when they don't know what they're talking about. Most Americans know absolutely nothing about anything beyond their own borders. The irony of it all is that we don't matter much to anyone in the world - except to America. We're your biggest trading partner, your biggest oil supplier and (you probably don't know this) your biggest ally. But we don't matter <shakes head>. If we don't matter then who does? Oh right. Only America matters.

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LOL

 

So you don't like it when we take a cheap shot at Canada. We don't care for Canucks taking cheap shots at the USA ........

 

Congratulations.......post of the day! But you do know you will be called a racissssssss now, right?

 

I would indeed. But, to a lesser extent since I believe it is a symptom rather than the disease.

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---I am half black and half white. So let em, because I am.

---And thank you.

EDIT: Oops, I mean to quote Levon in post #120. For anyone without a sense of humor, I was joking.

 

What makes a crime become a hate crime? What do you see in this crime that makes this is a hate crime?

 

I don't recall posting anything that would be considered 'racist hate'........I deal in facts, statistics and reality.........if those things run counter to your lib perceived world view......then that's a 'you' problem.....

 

maybe it was the disrespect that the younger generation shows is the real problem..it is the way their families have brought them up..i see younger people laughing at older people struggling all the time instead of just helping the older person out..3 days ago i was at the store and this old lady at least in her 70s had a flat tire..teenage boys were laughing at her and making fun of her..it took me just 15 minutes to change her tire for her..whats 15 minutes of my time?

 

The linked article is very careful not to mention the race of the attackers. But it is a good assumption.

 

Ask Al Sharpton and his minions in the race industry.

 

Well, I'm guessing you are probably correct. But how does that mitigate their attack?