Walmart Asks Employees to Donate Food to Help Starving Coworkers

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  1. mutmekep

    mutmekep New Member

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    Now you understand why slavery was banned , slave owners had to feed & house their human assets .
     
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    You would know.
     
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    Yes that is called inflation brought upon by devaluing the dollar by overspending. Its a horrible cycle.
     
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    They don't. Their claims that they give so much money away are bunk. They coordinate and donate EMPLOYEE donations, and SOMETIMES they match, but not always, then they count that total as a gift from WM .

    And at best this is bad PR from a company that realizes that they don't even have to pretend any more, at worst........
     
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    Let me get this straight, board members of Walmart are asking the lower level employees to help their fellow employees with food, yet their CEO just received a $100M+ package. Maybe those senior board members could step up a little too.
     
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    Yeah it is the average of disposable income which is income less income taxes paid.

    I didnt use gross income numbers. And us Americans have the highest disposable incomes in the world.
     
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    Republicans thats who. The middle class was destroyed one a President who by all means in his second half was losing his mind and dressing in his wifes clothes .l
     
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    You are pretty much saying that all jobs are equal, which is not true at all. You are speaking through your emotion because you feel sorry for people, which of course you are just being human and there is nothing wrong about caring for people but at the same time you are speaking illogically when it comes to this.

    A true living wage is a minimum of $15/hour, and nobody is going to pay that for a entry level job like a store cashier or a fry cook at McDonald's. That's just the way it is because next thing you know higher level job employees will want their pay to go up because if they are making the same as someone who doesn't even come close to their qualifications, merit, responsibilities , or years put in they will want to be paid more for their services. This will cause pay raises across the board which in turn will cause the company to raise their prices to cover it all or maybe even lay off workers on the bottom end or even stops making people full time employees. Then what are you going to do, demand that companies make everyone a full time employee ?

    You aren't thinking about that, all you think is to raise pay for those at the bottom of the totem pole and life will be perfect, ignoring the fact that there will be rammifications throughout the board. How is it fair that a new store cashier makes the same as one who put their time in and have established themselves as a good employee? How is it fair that someone who simply takes cash and bags groceries makes the same amount as a person who breaks down a transmission, rebuilds it, and re installs it and is responsible for a $30k vehicle and the people in it?

    And why are you going to put all the blame on an employer for one of their employees living conditions and expect the employer to cover the employee ? Is it the companies fault someone had a child before they were finiancially responsible to have one? Is it the employers fault that their employee can't manage their money? Is it the employers fault the employee agreed to work for the company knowing full well what they were gonna be paid and the hours they were going to work before hand? Why is the employer responsible for making sure you can coast through life ?

    There are many factors you omit with these emotional responses, and one of them is the responsibility of the employees which you pay no mind too, you just expect them to be paid the big money right off the bat no questions asked and no matter how little their responsibilities are. If someone is late or has issues counting their drawer how in the hell do they deserve higher pay?

    You make money based on your job skill, merit, responsibilities, etc. etc., not because you have 2 kids or going through a rough time. Plain and simple.
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Ok say your a nursing assist you are responsible for a human life. You have to dress that person feed and change them. pick them up out of a wheelchair 4-5 times a day. This person will not survive with out the aid. The aid is paid 7.25 an hour. You need to be certified to be an aid cost money to take the test and you need to know what you are doing your not just pushing buttons. This person should make 12.00 an hour or more....
     
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    A great argument for why those screamng for a $15 min wage are ridiculous, but does nothing to counter the argument that $7.25 is too low, especially coupled with a 30 hour work week.

    We seem to have two sides here, one that believes that companies are all evil and should liquidate all their assets to help their employees and the other who believes that unfettered greed by the companies is perfectly good no matter who it hurts.

    I mean seriously, who the (*)(*)(*)(*) makes a real argument that if the wages companies are paying people qualify them for welfare then the solution is to raise the welfare limit? That is a completely asinine statement and one that frankly I can't believe that anyone who considers themselves to be intelligent would defend. I mean just think about it, what would doing so solve? Oh sure, it would kick some people off welfare, but at what cost?

    On the other hand, the same goes with anyone calling for $15 or something equally ridiculous per hour. It's beyond obvious that even though wages have not kept up with inflation, if you DOUBLE the min wage you will cause massive price increases which will essentially nullify any increase.

    As is usually the case, the solution resides somewhere in the middle, we can't just keep letting these companies do whatever they want in terms of low wages, fewer hours to avoid full time status, etc etc; but at the same time some common sense has to reign when deciding on a new min wage.

    Sadly, I think the day when people with common sense are willing to stand up and tell people on both fringes to sit down and shut up has long past.
     
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    It effects all prices by definition, but wages for low-skilled workers are usually the last to respond. That way, the poorest and least skilled workers are perpetually lagging behind inflation.

    Minimum wage laws increase unemployment among the least employable people. That's just basic economics.

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    Nafta was the brainchild of George HW Bush and was passed by a Republican Congress.

    But you are correct, Clinton did not veto it.

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    Nafta was the brainchild of George HW Bush and was passed by a Republican Congress.

    But you are correct, Clinton did not veto it.
     
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    Walmart Store Holding Thanksgiving Food Drive For Its Own Workers

    The Huffington Post | By Jillian Berman | 11/18/2013 2:02 pm EST
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    “One Ohio Walmart is asking employees to donate food for other workers who are struggling so much they can't afford to buy a Thanksgiving meal for their families.

    The Canton, Ohio, store is holding a food drive for employees, according to a pair of photos circulated by OUR Walmart, an advocacy organization with ties to the United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

    Signs attached to bins located in employee backrooms ask workers to “donate food items here so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner.”

    The food drive underscores the struggles that advocates for low-wage workers say Walmart employees face on a regular basis. Most Walmart store employees make less than $25,000 per year, according to a calculation by The Huffington Post’s Dave Jamieson earlier this year.

    That relatively low wage can mean that Walmart workers end up relying on means other than pay - like the food drive - to get by.

    One Walmart’s low wages could cost taxpayers $900,000 per year because workers use social safety net programs like food stamps and government-subsidized health care to make ends meet, according to a May study from congressional Democrats.

    A Walmart representative told the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, which first reported the Canton food drive, that the donations are indicative of a supportive employee culture - not proof of low wages.

    "It is for associates who have had some hardships come up," Kory Lundberg, a Walmart spokesman, told the Plain-Dealer of the food drive. 'Maybe their spouse lost a job. This is part of the company's culture to rally around associates and take care of them when they face extreme hardships.’ "

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/18/walmart-food-drive_n_4296618.html?utm_hp_ref=business
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    IMO: When Walmart needs to have fellow employees contribute to other employees in need, then Walmart executives should contribute some of their monstrous salaries and retirement packages to help these underpaid overworked employees that have been highly visible in making those executives rich.

    A fair and equitable company would want to help their workers who cannot live on the substandard wages they receive especially around the holidays when they have family dinners, and gifts to get for their children.

    This is seriously making Walmart look like Scrooge who ran around Walmart shoving a shopping cart yelling: Bah! Humbug! as workers were forced to stay late trying to get the last buck from gullible American families.

    Walmart is outrageous in their greed and their disregard for the wellbeing of their workers. Walmart is planning on building 116 new Walmarts in China next year, while American workers strive to make their salaries stretch into next week. What a miserable sham they present to fairness in the workplace.
     
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    Fire the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing moron of the White House, and things will improve for everyone. Fast.
     
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    No, he signed it.
     
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    Thats what I said.

    But, It's ignorant to suggest that Clinton is responsible for NAFTA.


    Reading is great.
     
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    Some good comments in this thread. But seriously folks, the livable wage income is lower than the spendable outcome. This is the way it will be from here on out. wages will continue to fall for the lower and middle class.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    No, you said he did not veto it. Big difference.
     
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    effectively there is 0 difference. It would have become law whether he signed it or not.

    Republicans are responsible for NAFTA. Anyone who claims otherwise is either lying or ignorant about how NAFTA came about.
     
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    Clinton signed it INTO LAW!!!
     
  21. AveMariaGratiaPlena

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    Walmart and all other corporations need to pay a just wage. I personally believe in a living wage. The wage for each and every person needs to be such so that they can afford all the necessities such as food, electricity, rent or house payment, etc...
     
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    It would have become law even if he had refused to sign it.
     
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    NAFTA was put into place by capitalist and both parties of politicans. Its one of the biggest slap in the face Americans will have next to Obama care.

    People don't have the foggiest ideal how NAFTA slapped Americans in the face.
     
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    He signed it into law. End of story.
     
  25. TRS

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    YUP.....
     

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