Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

It is a tactic the professional obfuscators use to keep the truth hidden. Conspiracy theory people are painted as kooky nutters, TV reinforces it, media rarely reports the truth, so the people who watch TV jump on the bandwagon because they believe the authority figures would not deceive them. We end up arguing rather than debating. Sun Tzu's divide and conquer tactic. The truth is tough to get out even today with the power of the Internet.

Ridicule of Conspiracy Theories Focuses On Diffusing Criticism of the Powerful

 

Whick folks told them, and why would they shut-up? Evidence, please.

 

Testimony under oath. You have to read the information at the link. They did not name names. Dr. Perry just said that after two conversations with Bethesda Naval Hospital to not tell reporters that the shots that killed Kennedy came from the front anymore. Dr. Clark and Dr. Perry did not talk with reporters after that. But they still told the truth when they were testifying under oath. I can't prove it to you unless you take the time to read it for yourself.

The Men Who Killed Kennedy

 

you have never debunked jack squat since day one you first got here.you have been checkmated EVERYTIME.

reseachers in the ARRB "assassinations records review board" that clinton signed for people to gatther documents form government agecys in the mid 1990's found suppressed documents from the ONI and CIA that he indeed worked for them you just proved his case for him and helped him take you to school on this saying the fact that the doctors said it was an entry wound and many photographic experts have concluded that the pics were doctored and his backyward photos were doctored just like HE said they were according to capt fritz who interviewed him. somehow you have the warped logic that doctors and witnsses said,that they dont know nothing,that if the government and media said it was tru,then its automtically true.comedy gold and miserable fail.


none of you all have ANY answers for these facts,you all play dodgeball and pretend these facts were never posted below..


1. many witnesses saw a gunman behind the picket fence firing a rifle,and all the dallas doctors said it was an entrance wound to the front of the throut as well as an entrance wound to the head which was a shot from the front as well.

2.they keep ignoring a photo I have posted MILLIONS of times of a pic taken seconds before,during,and after the shooting showing NOBODY in the 6th floor window evading that fact changing the subject because it proves oswald innocent.

3.they ignore that all the jury members in the garrison trial were convinced he was killed by a conspiracy.

4.they ignore the hsca investigation in the 1970's that concluded the warren commission was wrong and there was a second shooter behind the picket fence.

5.they ignore that oswalds rifle when they found it was a piece of crap with the scope badly misalined and the shims out of place.

6.they ignore that many witnesses said there testmonys were altered and their signitures forged which is a trean that the warren commission members all should have gone to jail for and then accuse me of lying saying they never said that no less.

7.most importantly,they ignore the laws of physics that your head does not go backwards when shot from the back,that it goes forwards.

oh and those americans arent stupid like you want to believe them to be.

8.THEY see right through the lies of the warren commission that if oswald was seeking fame and attention like those idiots on the warren commission said he was,he sure as hell wouldnt DENY he did it saying -Im just a patsy and then when asked if he killed the president saying-No sir I did not shoot anybody and I wish someone to come forward and give me legal representation "which he was denied."

oh and this photo was taken by a press photographer seconds before,during,and after the shooting and NOBODY is in the alleged 6th floow windown.miserable fail.proof proves oswald innocent. oh and anybody who has an understanding oh 5th grade physics knows it was impossible for him to do it.

other way around,oswald is innocent,and there were multiple shooters and the magic bullet theorists are all in denial..you guys cant stand toe to toe in a debate with these facts,you always change the subject.

 

I am no longer allowed to participate in the other thread so I am cross posting in order to respond.

It is well known that the autopsy photos were not shown to the members of the Warren Commission. They were locked away. I have no idea that the picture posted by normalguy23 is an actual photo of Kennedy's head, or if it is touched up. It is just a picture on the internet to me.

 

Here is the pic i was talking about earlier that proves nobody in the alleged 6th floor window when ther shots rang out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDkgTOMYWa0

oh and you might want to read this as well.

No Gunman in the Window

A home movie by a spectator, Robert Hughes, showed the easternmost sixth–floor window as the president’s car passed directly underneath, no more than five seconds before the shooting started. The three TSBD employees in the fifth–floor window are clearly visible, but there appears to be no–one in the sixth–floor window. Another spectator, Charles Bronson, filmed the window six minutes earlier, at about the time when the motorcade had been due to pass by. Again, the window appears to be empty.

I have seen that photo taken seconds before,during,and after the shooting of the Hughes film and you see three black men in the fifth floor window below oswalds alleged snipers nest,but NOBODY is in the alleged snipers nest,the 6th floor window.that alone clears oswald.

matter of fact as you can see from this link yourself,senator richard sprague who served on the house select committe on assassinations,he viewed the photos of the 6th floor window that were taken at the time of the assassination and he himself said he found NOBODY in the alleged 6th floor window.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToABkIntro.txt


Now, the most important thing initially that happened in
finding the photos was discovering a number of photographs-
-films and still photos--that showed the sixth floor window
empty with nobody in it. This is what originally convinced
me that we had a different sort of conspiracy going than one
involving Lee Harvey Oswald, because if he wasn't in the
window--and nobody was in the window--then what happened?
Who fired the shots? And where from?

 

You act like the Warren Commission is the only investigation that has been done on the Kennedy assassination.

 

apparently he is not aware of that the HSCA in the 1970's even concluded the warren commission was wrong,that he was killed as a probable conspiracy with a second shooter behind the grassy knoll but unable to locate him for prosecution. the lead investigate robert blakey even wrote a book about it thate elements in the mob did it.

 

From your source. Now please quote where it says that Perry said he couldnt say the shot came from the front.

"Dr. Perry stated that he had talked to the Bethesda Naval Hospital on two occasions that morning and that he knew what the autopsy findings had shown and that he did not wish to be questioned by the press, as he had been asked by Bethesda to confine his remarks to that which he knew from having examined the President"

He was asked by Bethesda (according to this quote from your source) to keep his public remarks in accordance to what he saw from examining the president and to not talk about what he had learned from the autopsy. So your completely full of BS and obviously cant read very well. Bethesda, more or less, asked him to tell them the shot came from the front and not let anyone know about the findings in the autopsy. Stop skewing things to fit your agenda.

 

Dr. Perry took it to mean shut-up. And he did. I'm just stating the obvious.

 

M.O. Perry, Kennedy Surgeon, Dies at 80

Or perhaps he was watching all the other people speaking out about the facts of the Kennedy killing disappearing or committing suicide with five bullet shots to the head.

 

You act like the Warren case is the only case that investigated Kennedy. It was examined in 1968, 1975, and all documents related to Kennedy were released in the 90's and reviewed. Every investigation committee has come to the same results. That is the actual photo, and there was a drawing done that also matches it. Get over yourself.

 

Do you have possession of the actual photo? Get over myself eh? The HSCA determined it was a conspiracy.

Why do you deniers of truth get away with flame baiting? If I respond in a similar manner I get banned.

 

I have examined all of these and you cant really see into the 6th window much at all. Are you in some fantasy world where Snipers lean out of windows to shoot people so everyone can see them? Even Earl Ray knew to sit back from the window and shoot from a bath tub to kill King. Duh. Those photos do show that the window is open though, which means by looking at your evidence, we can tell that Oswald wasnt dumb enough to lean out the window to shoot someone. Thanks for letting us know.

 

Really, because last I checked plenty of people like Jean Hill didnt die until the 90's-2000's.

 

Yeah he was told to not talk about the findings in the autopsy. Your not stating the obvious. Your trying to skew the fact that he was told not to disclose the findings of Kennedy's autopsy. He was told not to talk about how the bullet came from the back. You literally just took what he was told and twisted it to your agenda. He probably felt that he needed to shut up because he saw how people like you were trying to turn his words into a conspiracy and he later found out from bethesda that he was wrong. Usually when people are wrong they (*)(*)(*)(*). Maybe you should learn from Perry.

 

And that 1978 case was examined again in the 90's where they found the 78 case to be false. The photos were released by law in the 90's and can be seen in the database of national archives to this day. So yeah go ahead and take a trip and they will let you see it for yourself, along with any other document from the case.

 

No, no , no. this is false. The 1970's investigation concluded that he was shot twice from above and behind him. they did conclude that there was a probability for a conspiracy. they didnt specify exactly how or what but they said it was possible. They didnt say it was a conspiracy. That is you taking words like all people on the conspiracy part and magnifying it to be something it is not. Dr. Humes even opened the 90's investigation to say clearly that as he had grown tired of re-iterating the same (*)(*)(*)(*) over and over for more than 3 decades.

 

What do you think of Dr. Clark's statement under oath?,

What about Dr. Perry agreeing with Mac" Kilduff, Jr. gesture of where the bullet entered?

The Men Who Killed Kennedy

You really can't deny that on November 22, 1963 just after Kennedy was killed that most witnesses believed that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from the front. All the evidence points to that and it was covered up.

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That investigation concluded that there was likely a second shooter.

 

And there have been plenty of investigations that show there was a conspiracy yet they get no air time on mainstream media. Let's put it this way. With polls showing that the vast majority of people believing there was more to it than just Oswald, doesn't it seem odd that 100% of mainstream media folks either push the single gunman theory or don't talk about it at all? That's a mathematical impossibility. Look at John Kerry's comments a couple weeks ago. Then two days later he won't even elaborate. Do you think he was told to keep his mouth shut? Why? Meanwhile, we have all this "scientific evidence" yet the many witnesses that day are never talked to. Either because they will say something the people up top won't like, or they died just before they were going to testify in court years ago. Hmmm.

 

They couldn't let the public know the whole truth in those days. Walter Cronkite, the most trusted liar in America, had the people fooled into believing all the lies. That was the age before the Internet. The liars are having a much tougher time getting away with their lies now. I got banned from that thread for it, but I suspect at least two professional debunkers on this forum. Others were genuinely fooled.

 

thats grasping at straws.hee hee.Earl warren wasnt very corrupt dude so to quote him is just shooting yourself in the foot.

Like he is going to lean back and AWAY from the window and to pull off the shot and he is going to wait to shoot him going away with an obstructed view on elm with a tree there having to shoot through foilage and not take the Unobstructed view on Houston with a CLEAR shot? nice fairy tale but it doesnt work in the real world

and oswalds rifle was a piece of crap when they found it,miserable fail.again the dallas doctors and eyewitnesses know what they are talking about.you might try and read what they said.

oh and when the FBI tried to stimulate the shot,they open the window WIDE where in the photo,it shows it just slightly opened and they also cut the tree down as well.oh and none of the FBI marksmen could duplicate his incredible miraculous feat either.hee hee.

 

grasping at strawmens arguments when called out I see.Because they didnt murder EVERYBODY that had a version different than the governments he is wrong? good one.

oh and I see you failed to mention how she was harrassed and bullied by the invetigaters to change her story like many of them were,a crime itself they should have all gone to jail for.nice game of dodgeball.

oh as far jean Hill? she recieved harrassing and threatening phone calls for many months and then ran off the road when someone messed with her car crashing into a tree with the ONLY thing saving her life was it rained the other night otherwise investigaters determined she would have died.

after that incident,she went public and had some people in the police force she knew she could trust start protecting her is the only reason she weas one of the few to escape with her life,going public being one of the more fortunate ones to only experience VERBAL harrassment to change her testimony.

 

gives standing ovation.

well said.

 

the chessmatch game between you and Mike is over and you are the winner. your opponent has been checkmated just like he always gets checkmated here on this topic.

its funny that opening post was made because all it did was prove for the open minded,that there was indeed a conspiracy.