Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

you to huh? hahahahahahaa yeah there were at LEAST two of them over there and I would day thats a conservative number..I said 2 months ago when i made that thread the government would send many paid operatives over there to try and derail that thread the closer and closer it got to the anniversay. I sure turned out to be a prophet.Did not take a genius though to know that was going to happen.they are so predictable.their handlers hate to see the truth being printed.

they came out in full force this week since today is the anniversary to no surprise.lol.

there are many more of them in the 9/11 section trolling much more often there than they did on that thread night and day.I assume you been over there and saw that yourself?

 

actually were not conspiracy theory people,we are conspiracy REALISTS.the lone nut theorists are the conspiracy THEORISTS because thats all they ever go by is THEORYS instead of evidence,facts and witness testimonys.hee hee.

funny how we get called kooks and nutters when they deny the reality of all the muliple bullets found that day and ignore what witnesses saw and what the dallas doctors said,isnt someone who ignores realityand 7th grade laws of physics like the magic bullet theorists always do,arent those the kind of people that are considered by definition,a nutter?

 

you might want to take your own advise. He isnt the one ignoring the laws of physics,the dallas doctors and what witnesses saw as well or how the warren commission committed treason altering their testimonys and the secret service did as well.

and your being untrueful again.the HSCA investigation disgreed with the warren commission in the 70's saying there was a second gunman that a probable conspiracy existed.I already addressed that to you earlier.

 

if I put myself in witness positions, and assumed that I couldnt tell where the shot came from by the sound, then I would probably have assumed that he was hit in the front and said similar things to what some witnesses said. But an initial reaction to something doesnt hold any truth. Initial assumptions dont hold any truth in Pearl Harbor, it didnt help in 9/11 or anything. If I examine the video footage and the autopsy then I would have to admit that my initial reaction would have been wrong. Theres literally 20 different conspiracy theories derived from witness accounts. People thinking he got shot from behind a fence, some say a sewer, some saying the driver. blah, blah, blah. Conflicting witness stories means none of them are concrete. I follow the actual forensic evidence.

 

All of the evidence was released to the public back in the 90's and investigation was done. That is what has led to the current official conclusion. you and any other person can go and see the evidence at the national archives. The only people who continue to stick to conspiracy theory are people who refuse to accept the actual evidence and replace it with their assumptions. There is no debate as to how many shots were fired, how many shooters there were, or where the bullets came from. The evidence sits in washington for everyone to see. the only thing that is not known at this point is why Oswald did it. It wasnt the CIA. The CIA was already investigated and found of the corrupt stuff they have done. Was there other people that might have helped plan the assassination? maybe, hard to tell since Oswald never spoke. That is probably the only conspiracy that could be argued if they have actual evidence instead of stupid crap like "LBJ didnt like Kennedy so he had him killed" I mean for the love of God provide some actual evidence instead of assumptions.

 

No, it wasn't. There is still documentation that is not for the public to read. How about JFK's brain? Is that there for us all to see? No, it went missing. And I'm sure the government never altered the "evidence". Much like how they never created a phony photo of Oswald holding the gun months before the shooting. A photo that experts say looked all wrong. As for the LBJ part, how about this? His mistress, who had a child with said that the night before the assassination, LBJ had a meeting with members of big oil, Nixon, J. Edgar Hoover, etc. After the meeting ended, he grabbed her in a rage and said, “After tomorrow, those (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That’s no threat. That’s a promise.” Just a coincidence I'm sure. Or how about that she and many others had seen Oswald and Ruby together? Doesn't Ruby knowing Oswald change everything? Or how about the Katzenbach Memo on the Monday after the assassination? I'm sure you've read that.

So much evidence was destroyed (ie. the initial autopsy notes) and witnesses killed, that of course it's hard to find evidence now. But, even if you look at circumstantial evidence, once there is a certain amount, you can't turn a blind eye to it. And there is A LOT of circumstantial evidence in this case. It's not a coincidence.

 

Lets see YOU do that.you have failed to prove oswald did it since you came on here with your rants with only assumptions.i have provided hard facts that oswald is innocent and multiple shooters,you wont address them,you change the subject knowing you are cornered.

yeah and all the evidence that was released was never published to the american people by the CIA controlled media,they came across documents that oswald worked for the CIA and that JFK was going to pull out of vietnam by 1965.

.if you would ever go to the national archives in washington you would know that.

no thats why 75% percent of americans dont believe the outright lies of the whe warren commission because they took 7th grade science classes.ha ha

yep and that evidence in the national archives that they wont release to the public shows he was with the ONI and CIA and kennedy was going to pull out of vietnam completely by 1965.I have been there unlike you.
its only the magic bullet theorists that stick to the theory that oswald was the lone assassin who are the people who refuse to accept actual evidence and replace it with their assumptions.

yes there is no debate as to how many shots were fired.a dozen or so.
you would know that if you would actually take the time to watch the videos we post but run away with your tail between your legs everytime we put them up. yeah there is no debate where the bullets came from since the FACTS prove they came from MULTIPLE directions.

No the only thing that is not known is how oswald was set up as the patsy.

If you would bother to read the HSCA report,you would know that during the end of the investigation when it was winding down,two CIA men came forward and said-We did it,where do you want to go with this investigation? and since it pointed towards government involvement,the committe of course ignored it and did not pursue the lead. yeah the evidence in washington in the national archives proves he worked for the CIA,ONI and was an FBI informant.

oh and E Howard Hunt who was a CIA covert operations officer for the CIA and ran them for Nixon when he was vice president,after years of denying he was in dallas that day,he confessed to his son in a tape recorded message that he WAS in dallas that day on his deathbed as part of a CIA operation to kill kennedy and Johnson and Nixon were heavily involved in it.

when you learn about the laws of physics every junior high school kid learns at that age,get back to me.
you ever get tired of getting egg on your face?

till your ready to stop looking at things you only WANT to see,im done with you.

 

You have checkmated him as me and that other guy always do all the time.

yeah somehow he isnt aware that deputy roger craig came in when he was being questioned by captain will fritz and when craig said Fritz asked him about the backyard photo and heard him tell Fritz that picture was a fake,that his face was superimposed and that independent expert photographers around the world have all concluded oswald was telling the truth.

or that the secret service violated all protocals that day illegally removing the body from texas violating texas law not allowing the doctors to do an autopsy even if it is the president of the united states,that they drew their guns at them and pointed them at them shoving them up against the wall with threats that they would shoot them if they tried to stop them and destroyed evidence telling the secret service to destroy the limo which they did.

all pure propaganda.Its just a rehashing of Bonar Menningers lies of Mortal Error.Menninger and this author are proven liars because the films taken that day show that ss agent seconds before the shots hit him and you can see that his gun never goes off or he ever slips.its just more disinformation to get people swayed away from the truth that the CIA did it and the secret service were in on it.the secret sevice violated all protocals that day.

they were out till the wee hours of the day till 3am in the morning getting drunk an offense they should have been jailed for as well as thier neglect that day.they destroyed and removed evidence yet none of them lost their jobs for their incompetence like they should have so people can forget them being just mere incompetent that day.

the secret service violated all protocals that day because kenendy had had an unlimited number of death threats that were issued to him in the prior weeks to visting dallas so for a hostile city like dallas where they had spat on and hit his friend ambassador stevens with a sign that was unheard of for them to violate the protocals they did.

examples.

1.they had no men riding the running boards of the back bumpers like they normally do.
2.they always have an advance team go and check buildings and manhole covers days in advance,none of that was done,that was unprecedented.
3.you dont slow the limo down to under 35mph and make that dangerous hairpin turn that slowed it down to 7mph or go past tall buildings with open windows.
4.you have men ready to jump at a moments notice anytime they see a man open an umbrella on the sidewalk.
5.also they committed treason because as soon as the shots ran out,according to kennedys friend senator ralph yarbrough who was riding with LBJ,a secret servicemen jumped on LBj and shielded him,yet kellerman the ss agent riding alongside the driver,did not do that with kennedy like he was suppose to.

He SHOULD have jumped in the back on top of kennedy way before the fatal head shot.He also did not pull out his gun like he is trained as well.
6.the driver Bill Greer-who had connections to the CIA,should have stepped on the gas and pulled away long before the fatal head shot rang out,Instead he violated protocal by stepping on the brakes coming to a complete stop.

as Kennedy entered dealy plaza,the crowds thinned out drastically.ithe thing thats a joke about the secret serice is before they came into dealy,they WERE riding the running boards of the back bumper,and they had the motorcyle men on BOTH sides of him flanking him against much LARGER crowds,and yet,when they came into dealy plaza and the crowds were much thinner and smaller,the motorcycle patrol officers flanked behind him instead of the sides like they were and the ss agents got off the running boards of the back bumper.

for a hostile city like dallas,agents go there in advance and have teams of men overlooking buildings and the minutes notice they see a window open,they are instructed to go up there and find out why that window is being open,they make sure they tell the city officials there are to be no open windows.

the secret service also destoyed the evidence in the limo.no conspiracy from the secret service? sure there wasnt.and Im going to be the next president of the united states as well.

also one of the police officers who was rushing to the picket fence because he believed the shots came from the grassy knoll,he confronted a man in a suit and when he asked that man to identify himself,he displayed credientals saying he was with the secret service.He took his word for it but afterwards,it didnt ring true because he wasnt dressed the way you would expect a SS agent to be dressed.He had dirty hands which agents dont have.

more importantly though,according to the records,all secret servicemen were all accounted for and none of them were on foot that very day.so who was impersonating them if they were all accounted for? the CIA obviously.

You should read Mark Lane one of the very first early critics of the warren commission and who tried to defend oswald,read his recent book THE LAST WORD.it explains all this.

Here is a link as well how the ss violated protocal that day.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/palamara/factsheet_vmp.html




and the warren commission committed treason altering witnesse testimonys.the secret serice and the warren commission committed treason yet they got off scott free.yep no conspiracy from our government here.

 

reread my post namtimarvasti,I just added some stuff on you didnt see before.

 

Not to mention, these guys keep pointing to shows they've seen on CNN or NBC or PBS (who runs PBS again?). Has no one heard of Operation Mockingbird?

 

the PBS documentary that trumps out the trump card that oswald was the lone assassin,the shoot themselves in the foot everytime.the warren commission said oswald had no connection to mobster CIA operative David Ferrie so what does PBS do when the trot out their propaganda piece year after year that oswald did it? they post a pic of him in his early days in the civil air patrol and you can clearly see that david ferrie his commnad officer in that outfit,someone you can HARDLY say someone else could look like.they show him in the same picture there with oswald yet the warren commission said they had no connections.

oh and if there is chance thats a look alike of ferrie in there the most bizarre strange character you could come across.sure that guy was just a look alike,and Im the kind of england as well.

 

This isnt communist russia. School textbooks arent written by the government. They are written by ordinary people, not affiliated, and teachers choose their textbooks so get a life.

Oh the naive magic bullet theorists.
textbooks written in our classrooms are ONLY approved by the government.thats common knowledge.lol.
the schools are funded by the city,the city is funded by the state,and the state is funded by the federal government,so naturally,you are only going to hear what THEY want you to hear.

 

Yeah it is. All the documents and photos are released in the national archives. Anyone can go look at them. LBJ's mistress made a bunch of crazy claims with a bunch of different people. She was an attention nut like many people. What does a photo of Oswald holding a gun have to do with anything? There are gun registrations. What does JFK's brain have to do with anything? If they were in the business of altering jfk's head then they would have just altered the brain to and showed it as proof. Katzenbach memo is one of many things talking about satisfying the public because so many wing nuts were screaming foul play. As Dr. Hume said in the 90's deposition,conspiracy people take small coincidences and magnify them while ignoring the solid evidence. There werent that many witnesses that died.

Now the Jack Ruby and Oswald thing is also something that I wonder about. That is something that is very debatable. questions like what was Oswalds motive and why did ruby kill him are good questions that could have been some type of cover up. but as far as multiple shooters and stuff. No that was debunked by forensic evidence. for the CIA conspiracy, no. The CIA was investigated for foul play on a long list of things including the kennedy death. The CIA was exposed in the 70's and no solid evidence of Kennedy involvement was found.

However, I can agree of maybe some type of mafia involvement or something along those lines. But we need actual evidence. Cant go accusing people based on a hunch and weird coincidences.

 

Look how JFK's brain guts are exploding in the front of his head...not the rear.

This is proof that the bullet came from behind.

its proof that the magic bullet theorists are gullible

if you had done your homework,you would know the zapruder film has been altered and thats a fake splice of blob added in in just like oswalds photo was faked just like he said.comedy gold.

photgraphy experts from around the world independent of the government have all concluded that the zapruder film has been altered and thats fake splice.

thats all talked about by these experts in the book THE ZAPRUDER FILM,THE GREATEST HOAX OF THE CENTURY.you might try picking up a copy and reading it.hee hee.

oh and witness testimonys prove you are rambling as well as what happened to officer hargis,

the motorcycle cop riding behind jackie on the left behind the left bumper getting splatterd with blood matter and brain all over his uniform which is totally inconsistant with a shot from the back of the school book depository but IS consistant with a shot from the FRONT.

,which for the millionth time,all dallas doctors said it was as well as many witnesses seeing a gunman behind the picket fence.

miserable fail as always.

 

Dude you just got done thinking Earl Ray and Earl Warren are the same person on the other thread. Your an idiot. Go somewhere.

 

wow, what a bunch of brainless points by these conspiracy nuts, not a single claim they make can be substatiated, it's all bogus.

The whole thing about slowing down the car is absurd, as if the only thing that can explain it is that it was a setup,.. serioulsy?

then this whole GARBAGE about fabricated stuff, it's beyond abusrdity... just going over some of it highlights the stupidity of it all. The fact is that there is overwhelming evidence pointing Oswald and the only thing you can do when you are presented with such damning evidence is discredit it by saying it's fake.

let's review some of the outlandish claims by these NUTCASES

1. documents show Oswald as the owner of the rifle. ALL FABRICATED
2. Oswald's finger prints on rifle. PLANTED
3. Autopsy doctors said entry wound was from behind. THEY WERE COERCED INTO SAYING IT
4. Eye witness saw a man with rifle at school depository. HE WAS COERCED INTO SAYING IT
5. Oswald's wife admitted that Oswald once tried to assassinate General Walker. SHE WAS COERCED INTO SAYING IT
6. Most eye witnesses saw Oswald kill the cop. THEY WERE COERCED INTO CLAIMING THIS and the few who thought they saw something else are credible
7. Oswald was seen taking a package into the building on that day. THIS IS A LIE, WHOEVER SAID THIS WAS COERCED INTO SAYING THIS
8. The bullets found at the crime scene all were shown to originate from the same rifle, no other bullets or fragments were found. SECRET SERVICE AND POLICE DID FIND OTHER BULLETS BUT THEY COVERED IT UP
9. Warren commision report. FAKE, rigged



ALL HARD AND MOST CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE POINTS TO OSWALD, FACT.

The claims above about secret agents not jumping on Kennedy and slowing down the car is absolutely a joke, ludicrous. This is ZERO evidence of driver and secret service agents being in the conspiracy. The Secret service agents present on that day have explained it all, many times but conspiracy retards never want to hear or accept the truth. They should watch the documentary 'The kennedy detail' where all of the agents are interveiwed and explain what happened and who they think did it. It's disrespectful and cowardly to accuse them of being involved, do it to their face you cowards. Conspiracy theorists have no honor, no integrity, are irresponsible and are pathetic people, really. Let's just think for a second, WHAT ON EARTH would be the motivation of the secret service to kill Kennedy? When they were around Kennedy, they were rockstars, they LOVED the guy... Kennedy was a young charismatic guy, women were all over him. KFK was always joking with the secret service agents and they loved him for being young and different than his predecessor. Who knows what benefits they got by being around Kennedy, for sure they were on the spotlight, like hanging out with a rockstar cause JFK was one. Listening to them you can tell they absolutely loved him.

The single bullet theory and back entry shot have been explained and put through rigourous and extensive scientific testing, it holds up.. they have conducted numerous tests where shots were fired at skulls, other materials to prove it was probable and consistent with what happened. Of course, conspiracy theorists don't want to watch any of this and just believe much less credible sources like isiots saying 'look at that, it's clearly from the front'

The fact is that conspiracy theorists have very little evidence of any conspiracy; they latch onto shady people's comments, little inconsistencies and organic lies. Over the years they have blamed 40 different assassins and implicated over 80 people, REALLY?


Oswald was a fOcking loser, dishonorably discharged from the marines; he was a marksman shooter; defected to Soviet Union and wanted to renounce his US citizenship; once tried to commit suicide; once tried to kill someone else; he told provable lie after lie after being arrested. This guy worked in the school depository way before Kennedy made it to Dallas, what a f-king coincidence huh? This guy saw the perfect opportunity and took it! all hard evidence points to him and shots being fired from the depository, he did it.

 

I'm sorry my friend, but they're not all available. I just read the other day that there are a bunch of documents that won't be released until 2017 and even then, they can delay it. As for Madeleine Brown, there's the problem with you Warren Commission believers. As soon as there's a witness who debunks your beliefs, you just dismiss them as crazy. I suppose E. Howard Hunt was also crazy with his deathbed confession. And again, all the witnesses who were there on that day who were either killed, or their testimony changed. And you know something? The same thing happened after RFK's murder too.

 

Do I really need to make a list for you of all the witnesses who died and the mysterious circumstances in which they were killed? You guys seem to have an answer for every single one of them and every single one of their claims. They were all crazy, right? The city of Dallas just happened to free a bunch of people from the asylum that day so they could see the president.

 

I've looked at this stuff, and honestly there simply isn't any evidence to really support it.

The sad part is, there are real conspiracies out there, and this stuff discredits the actual conspiracies that exist.

There have been numerous people who have asked for any real evidence showing Oswald was not working alone, and thus far, there is none. Nothing substantive has come up, and it's now decades later. If there was something to it, it would have shown up by now.

I think the real issue is that people hate the idea that one crazy man can change the course of human history. I understand that. But the truth is, one man can do it.

 

November 22, 1963 everyone knew that the bullet that killed JFK came from the front which proves Oswald did not kill Kennedy. It has been proven. The Men Who Killed Kennedy. You must read the testimony to know it, but the truth is right there.

 

It is not that they believe in a conspiracy that makes them kooks and nuts.

It is the fact that they tend to believe the most twisting, confusing, convoluted conspiracy theories that makes them nuts. In addition, I have rarely met a Conspiracy Theorist who only believed in one conspiracy theory. Most of them tend to believe a dozen and more, to the point that they end up sounding like Dan Akroyd from Sneakers.

Most of us rational people dismiss such individuals, because they obviously have mental issues.

 

Yes,you DO.

 

Not true.

The main conclusion of the House Select Committee on Assassinations was as follows:

Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots at Kennedy. The second and third shots Oswald fired struck the President. The third shot he fired killed the President.

There were secondary conclusions that stated that a conspiracy was possible, based upon acoustical evidence. The forensics available in 1976 were almost entirely analog. In the decades since then, with the advent of digital forensics and advanced sound software, it has been determined that those findings were faulty.

In fact, the acoustic evidence and findings were thrown out 3 years later by the Committee on Ballistic Acoustics.

http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/acoustics.htm

Only CT nuts still accept the HSCA findings about proof of a conspiracy. That was disproved and thrown out over 30 years ago.

 

LOL. The conspiracy to kill Kennedy has been proven! See: The Men Who Killed Kennedy

 

What is that, that a mentally unbalanced individual with Marine training would not be able to hit an individual from between 175 and 265 feet?

That is freaking childs play my friend, childs play. We are talking distances of between 58 and 88 yards. I could damned near hit him with a rock at that range.

Remember, LHO is a graduate of the exact same Rifle course that I took, the United States Marine Corps. Where the closest distance fired at is 200 yards (that is over three times the distance that he had to shoot), and the longest distance is 500 yards.

Of course, you have to realize that I do not believe he was trying to kill the President. I have long believed that his real target was Governor Connally, the former Secretary of the Navy, who had refused to help him in his appeal to have his discharge upgraded from Dishonorable.

Also, I am not from Baghdad, but Baghdad by the Bay.