This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam

Sorry, are you disagreeing with protectionist on the call to "ban Islam" in defiance of the 1st Amendment? If so...we have agreement.

 

Ad-hominem logical fallacy.

 

19 Muslims attacked us.. when they weren't out drinking or whoring around.

Do you know anything about the history of Christianity? The massacre of the Cathars, thousands of witches burned. The Inquisition, the Conquistadors, the Crusades.

 

This repression of religion is abhorant and you are abhorant for supporting it.

 

Already refuted the use of the phony word "Islamophobes" See Post #

Or "Consitution-loving Islamapologists"...who'd support trashing Constitution Article 6, section 2 for uncivilized, barbaric, savages, (AKA true Muslims) who they (incredibly) like.

 

So any movement is protected by the 1st Amendment if it calls itself a religion?

 

Sorry, protectionist...despite all your sick, twisted dreams....this country is NOT going to overturn the 1st Amendment freedom of religion clause because you hate Muslims. Rant for 40 more years until they take away your laptop at the nursing home....ain't going to happen.

 

Islam isn't a religion, it's a violent crusade against any and others who dare to disagree with their beloved Allah! If we need any proof of this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/03/malala-yousufzai-surgeries_n_2610418.html

 

Fine....let's start with the "pro-life" movement. It's mostly religious based. They've blown up Olympics and shot doctors.....so I guess they're all terrorists, uh, right? And we have the right to violate their 1st Amendment rights???

 

If overturning an Amendment is impossible, why would left-wing Democrats continually try to attack the 2nd amendment?

 

I don't think you quite understand that the Supremacy Clause doesn't actually affect religious groups.

Besides, as long as those who practice any religion practice it peacefully are allowed to do so in America.

 

Again, you're resorting to generalizations. Muslims are not a monolithic borg entity that acts in concert and shares all the same views.

Unlike you, I don't rely on simplistic generalizations that ignore the complexity and nuance of reality. You keep talking about the "Muslim world" like it's some kind of borg-like entity. This is just stupid and uneducated.

I'm not ignoring anything. I just refuse to engage in simplistic thinking that relies on imprecise generalizations and ignores over a hundred years of foreign interventionism by the US military and CIA.

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If overturning an Amendment is impossible, why would right-wingers continually try to attack the 1st amendment?....as you and protectionist are??? /

 

L. Ron Hubbard would think so.

 

BTW, for fun...go read some of the things Hitler said about Jews in the 30s....and replace "Jews" with "Muslims"....

and see if you can spot any difference between what The Furhrer said and what we see here weekly from the Islamophobes.

 

All that blood libel BS and the protocols.. Hitler worked overtime to demonize the Jews... and that's exactly what the Islamophobes do.

 

According to Al Jeezera and some Angolan officials, the government of Angola HAS NOT banned Islam or has destroyed mosques.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201311261638.html

 

"Movement"? There have been 4 doctors killed in the past 20 years. Not all were killed by Christians. I understand your left-wing desire to implicate Christianity in every bad thing that happens, but that isn't the case, here, especially when their holy book commands them not to kill. I think most honest people will realize that this is not a typical kind of act for a Christian to engage in, similar to how it wouldn't be common in Buddhists, Jains, Hindus, etc. Their religious beliefs do not command them to react this way. With Islam, however, there is an explicit command to war against non-Muslims. That makes its unique, and why any kind of moral equivalency argument you could conjure would ultimately fail.

 

If you had been in Germany in the 1930s would you have spoken to the lies and demonization of the Jews?

 

Or even better yet, go look up the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and you can see the Muslims were already on board WITH Hitler. I'm thinkin' maybe they could be sowing what they reaped.

 

You....can't be serious. Well when there's a "pro-life" organization that calls for the death of abortion doctors everywhere and calls for terrorist activities, then we can make that comparison.

The incident in Kansas was a man murdered another human being. No one force fed him his beliefs, no organization pushed him on. The same thing(partially) with the Olympic terrorist attack of 1996. While it's true he was a part of a radical Christian group that may have espoused similar things, as far as I'm aware no one else was arrested in connection to the attack(other than someone falsely accused of it).

Radical Islam is an active, engaging movement that has no intentions of letting up. And neither should we let up against it, or allow it to masquerade under the pretty words of a "religion".

 

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I didn't say they were. There are varying degrees of adherence in every belief system. Some are very devout, some are more casual. However, their religion is monolithic. No matter what sect of Islam they belong to, the Qur'an is considered to be the source of their faith. No amount of whitewashing can remove the commands to kill or subjugate non-Muslims. It's a part of the religion, it always has been, it likely always will be.

It's not stupid at all. "The Muslim world" is the area of the Earth where Muslims are the dominant group and Islam is practiced. If you were unclear about my wording, please ask for clarification before throwing out dismissive words like "stupid and uneducated". It reflects badly on you.

And I disagree that you are not relying on simplistic generalizations. You are attempting to make the argument that "our foreign policy" is the main cause of aggression in Muslims around the world. Where's the nuance there? Just because the reason you point to better conforms to politically correct multiculturalistic standards does not make it more nuanced or intelligent, despite what the sociology professor at the local junior college says. There's a reason why you continually dodge my question on why Muslims are attacking non-US and non-Israel areas of the world.

You're refusing to engage because your argument does not explain the long history that exists before the last 100 years. Pretending that all of this started within the last 100 years is so historically myopic, it's a wonder you can even see this issue.

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You're the one arguing that overturning an amendment is never going to happen. Can you answer my question?

 

Islam is no more monolithic than Judiasm or Christianity are monolithic...

A hundred years ago the Arab world was sleepy, backwards and politically apathetic..

They were only galvanized to by nationalism after the Zionists arrived.

 

Yeah right. They have galvanized to nationalism starting back during Muhammad's time. They only become sleepy and apathetic when they are crushed militarily by another army and fall into decline. The last time this happened they were on their way toward conquering Europe, but were defeated at the Gates of Vienna. What we are seeing is the next wave.