Angola Bans Islam - Closes Mosques MOD WARNNIG

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  1. Wasteland

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    Great, now Angola should get ready for the terror wave that will strike Angola soon !

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    They think banning Islam and destroying mosques will make them safe?? Oh no no no, they just opened the gates of HELL.
     
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    Before you make such predictions you might want to check the facts. Angola hasn't banned Islam.
     
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    The government of Angola says that story is rubbish and untrue. So who you going to believe? The government of that country or the lying Daily Mail rightwing rag?
     
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    Mosques are not closed and Islam is not banned. The government of Angola has denied it emphatically.
     
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    Yes, they are playing with words, but they didn't deny that mosques are being closed, which means Islam is now banned !
     
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    Read the damn source, officials are admitting it.
     
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    Angola's government has denied it had banned Islam and closed mosques in the country, after media speculation that sparked outrage among Muslims worldwide.

    "There is no war in Angola against Islam or any other religion," said Manuel Fernando, director of the National Institute for Religious Affairs, part of the ministry of culture, onTuesday.

    "There is no official position that targets the destruction or closure of places of worship, whichever they are." Fernando told AFP news agency.

    David Ja, a spokesman for local Muslims, challenged the government's account and said that a number of mosques had already been closed.

    But according to the ministry of culture, those closures were related to a lack of necessary land titles, building licenses or other official documents.

    A witness in the province of Uige (Carmona) told Al Jazeera that the closed mosques were hastility built by expatriate communities from west and north Africa who needed a place to perform Friday prayers.

    “It’s true that several mosques have been destroyed and others simply shut down in the last few months. Most of the mosques that were destroyed were built without government permission. Two authorised mosques in Luanda are still operating without a problem. I have not heard of any official decision to ban Islam or prohibit Muslim prayers in mosques.” Ahmed ould Taher told Al Jazeera.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/afric...eports-banning-islam-2013112782236279392.html
     
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    aljazeera, seriously, the minister of culture is contradicting himself

    Aljazeera, " according to the ministry of culture, those closures were related to a lack of necessary land titles, building licenses or other official documents."


    Guardian and Dailymail, "Minister of culture described Islam as a 'sect' which is banned as counter to Angolan customs and culture"


    They are lying to cover up what they did.
     
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    You are now making up ministry names for people which they do not have to have an argument,we can all read who said what,we do not need you to lie..ok?
     
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    "We do not need to lie..ok?"


    Oh crap, time to go.....
     
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    Mali, for one good example, has just about always been Muslim, since they existed as developed civilizations. Everybody pretty much got along until last year, and then it was the majority Sufi Muslims who called for the French to come in and help them to deal with the AQIM. Christian missionaries have always been treated with respect there since colonial times and to this day. Boko Haram is an oddity even in Nigeria and I do not give them long before they start offending even the other Muslims there.


    :frustrated:They are not actually banning squat They closed a few non-compliant buildings like any modern country would in urban centers. When they start banning religions, they will be a human rights violator like KSA or Cuba.
     
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    No. They were sort of pushed into it at the point of a bayonet.
     
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    Yes Angola is a Christian nation, but they can't ban Judaism, because they recognize Judaism as a religion from God, but they consider Islam a man made religion.
     
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    Judaism is not a recognised religion there, the only recognised religion there is Christianity.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

    They do not say any such thing, and you are a liar if you say they do. Freedom of religion is in their constitution.

    Relgious groups must meet a level of participation around 100,000 to open a school or own property as a religion. There are only 80,000 of them, so they are on their own as individuals for now.

    They recognize Judaism because there are a lot of Jews, outnumbering the Muslims.

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    Not true. They recognize other religions such as animism as well.
     
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    The attitude of the Angolan regime toward religion has been inconsistent. The MPLA's commitment to Marxism-Leninism, 1977–1991, meant that its attitude toward religion, at least officially, corresponded during that period to that of the traditional Soviet Marxist-Leninist dogma, which generally characterized religion as antiquated and irrelevant to the construction of a new society. The government also viewed religion as an instrument of colonialism because of the Roman Catholic Church's close association with the Portuguese.

    Furthermore, because membership in the party was the road to influence, party leaders and many of the cadres were likely to have no formal religious commitment, or at any rate to deny having one (even though most of Angola's leaders in the 1980s were educated at Catholic, Baptist, Methodist or Congregational mission schools). Nonetheless, the government acknowledged the prevalence of religion in Angolan societies and officially recognized the equality of all religions, tolerating religious practices as long as the churches restricted themselves to spiritual matters. The state, however, did institute certain specific controls over religious organizations, and was prepared to act quickly when it felt that it was challenged by the acts of a specific group. Thus, in early 1978 the MPLA Political Bureau ordered the registration of "legitimate" churches and religious organizations at the "National Institute for Religious Matters", created in the framework of the Ministry of Culture. Although foreign priests and missionaries were permitted to stay in the country, and although religious groups or churches could receive goods from abroad, further construction of new churches without a permit was forbidden.

    A conflict developed in the late 1970s between the government and the Roman Catholic Church. In December 1977, the bishops of Angola's three archdioceses, meeting in Lubango, drafted a pastoral letter subsequently read to all churches that claimed frequent violations of religious freedom. Their most specific complaint was that the establishment of a single system of education ignored the rights of parents. They also objected to the government's systematic atheistic propaganda and its silencing of the church's radio station in 1976. In response to charges of government meddling in religious affairs, President Neto issued a decree in January 1978 stating that there was complete separation between church and religious institutions. In addition, Jornal de Angola printed an attack on the bishops, accusing them of questioning the integrity of the Angolan revolutionary process.

    The outcome of the conflict had repercussions for Protestant churches as well as for the Roman Catholic Church. In essence, the government made it clear that religious institutions were to adhere to government and party rulings regarding non-religious issues.

    continued.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Angola
     
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    Most Europians HATE Arabs, and i don't blame them.
    They have 52 countries, why are they slowly trying to occupy Europe ?
     
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    Who are Europians?
     
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    Read and learn .
     
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    Congratulations, you're a candidate for this months Pedant Award.:roll:
     
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    I could not resist. :)
     

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