ObamaCare's Plans Are Worse

You just don't get it. From your article:

THEY MUST COMPLY WITH OBAMACARE ! EXACTLY AS I SAID !! Wake the (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

 

Yes, the same policy on the exchange has to be sold for the same price if the same policy is sold off the exchange. Doesn't change anything I said.

 

Domat did not read their link, or clearly did not understand it. ... Liberals .......

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Of course they have to meet the minimum requirements I said that in my post. Regardless you can get plans that are different then the ones on the exchanges.

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lol. sigh.. I love name callers who can't read.

 

What is "different" ? As I have shopped both the Exchange, and non-Exchange, and also supported by your own links. there is no difference. All must meet Obamacare. You are beat. Know when to shut up !

 

l am beat seriously? Sorry bud but you don't seem to understand what is written. What you are saying is not what the article says.

You do not seem to grasp that a plan can meet the minimum requirements and still be different from one another. it is set up like that right on the exchange for example. Bronze and platinum plans are different yet they both meet the requirements.


from the same link-

" Whether or not the policies you will find off the exchange are a better deal for you than the on-exchange plans isn’t clear yet, and will vary by market. “I don’t think we have a good sense of that,” said Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry group. But, he added, it makes sense to check.

Another possible reason for shopping off the exchanges is if the networks offered by the plans you find there don’t include your own doctor or hospital, said Sara R. Collins, a health policy expert at the Commonwealth Fund. In some cases, insurers are seeking to control costs by narrowing the networks of plans offered on the exchanges. "

 

I don't think you understand what your options are...

You go on the exchange (when it works), and it takes the place of a free brokerage. Your other options are to shop direct at all providers you can find for the same plans offered on the exchange... or you pay a broker to shop and explain them to you.

 

Domat does not understand. They are stuck.

 

Not true.

in case you missed it

"from the same link-

" Whether or not the policies you will find off the exchange are a better deal for you than the on-exchange plans isn’t clear yet, and will vary by market. “I don’t think we have a good sense of that,” said Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry group. But, he added, it makes sense to check.

Another possible reason for shopping off the exchanges is if the networks offered by the plans you find there don’t include your own doctor or hospital, said Sara R. Collins, a health policy expert at the Commonwealth Fund. In some cases, insurers are seeking to control costs by narrowing the networks of plans offered on the exchanges. " "


If they all have to be exactly the same why would it not be clear? Especially when they have to be the same price if it is the same plan.

 

Subsidies.

 

From 35 previous links:

"If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance."

Why on earth would you believe anything else they tell you?

 

Jack...of Jack in The Box has always been one of the great leaders favorites...so Ive sen JACK to the Whitehouse to lend em a hand...and a bag of fries...


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Jacks promised to make a report by SUnday evening

 

What about subsidies? The article mentions the subsidies at the start. It is obvious if you are eligible for subsidies the exchange plans are 100% the way to go. Nothing unclear about it.

It is clear that it being unclear has nothing to do with subsidies.

"However, the site offers more than a thousand plans from 60 insurance companies that you can buy if you aren&#8217;t looking for subsidies. "

 

Obama's got his work cut out for him, that's for sure.

 

It is clear they are unclear. You are presuming why they are unclear... and I am suggesting that it is unclear whether or not these plans will be discounted for those who are not able to get subsidies as an incentive to provide worse plans than the exchange or not for slightly less money.

You are attempting to be "right" about a stated ambiguity in an article. Lets get back to the topic. The ACA requirements are retarded and bad for the people. That is the bottom line. I don't need to be paying for things I don't need... forcing me to is... unamerican.

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101218418

If canceled, not even 1% will pay more for Obamacare: Study

This notion, perpetuated by the right, that everyone will be paying more for health insurance ("triple the coverage! With higher deductables! And worse coverage!") is bovine excrement.

 

No, only forced at the point of a gun from the IRS.

 

What?? Are trying to say that the plans that have to be the same price (if it is the same plan) might be discounted? I don't get it.

Anyhow your following rant is not on topic.

 

Your link is bogus BS. Just like Obama's lies. Here it is again. click on it folks. Its 100% scat.

http://www.familiesusa.org/

I don't know who the (*)(*)(*)(*) you are. Or if you even pay for your health insurance as is. But I know on NO ONE who has lost their plan, and who is not eligible for a subsidy, who now gets a less expensive deal. You can't document such for me across the board.

 

You and every other right-winger. Forgive me for not giving a rat crap about your anecdotes.

Btw that link, like your ideology, doesn't work.

 

The link works fine. And its the link YOU POSTED ........... Hahahahahahahahahahaha !! It leads to BS other than you claimed it did !!
DOH !!!!!!

How are you covered by health insurance ? Who pays for it ? Hahahahahahahahaha !!

 

Perhaps we are both misunderstanding eachother... because it seems to me that you are suggesting that even though the exchange plans charge more for less coverage... the agencies themselves may create at some point in the future ACA compliant plans that are better than what is available on the exchange... and better than what is available now for the money?

 

You are definitely misunderstanding me as I never even suggested anything I quoted from you above.

You can buy plans that are different from the plans that are found on the exchange is all I wrote. You can do that today.

 

Ok, the link works now.

Attacking the source is a fallacy, especially when they aknowledge that some premiums will go up (1.5 million in total). The majority will not, even if they don't qualify for subsidies, and as many as 71% of 15+ million on the individual market qualify for either Medicaid or subsidies. You're not rebutting a thing with all your forced laughter and anecdotes, sorry.

 

It was your link. From your post. I only pasted it again. Can you possibly own what you post ? Give it a try for once. Its a sign of manhood.

Numerous reports have documented that the rates are going up in 47 out of 50 states. My rates are going up. How about yours ? Or are you a subsidy parasite ? Or still on Mommie's plan ?

Tell us !!