In defence of Abbott in the eyes of the media

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  1. Recusant

    Recusant Active Member

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    I'll preface this by saying i disagree with the man on almost everything i've heard him say.

    This article raises valid points:

    http://www.themonthly.com.au/politicoz/latest

    Every point above is valid, but the source must be noted. I suspect the media is very unhappy about the lack of things for them to report on. Over the last few decades, politicians and the media have used each other to make their professional lives easier. Journalism has been almost completely replaced by "reporting". "Reporters" don't have to do much research - journalists do. IMO, the 24hr news cycle is harmful. It encourages "he said, she said" reporting and virtually no analysis. Rarely does a news outlet claim a statement by a politician to be completely or partially incorrect - and why that is so. It's astonishing that ABC's "Behind The News" - aimed at children - provides better analysis than most news stories we see in the prime-time news slots.

    So what is actually going on with Abbott? I think i'll wait a few months for some JOURNALISTS to help me understand it. Doesn't mean i won't continue to disagree with him in nearly every way :)
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Abbotts hard stand with the Northern neighbours. If they don’t like what we are doing, then let them peddle their cheap Asian made junk somewhere else.

    Who are the Northern neighbours going to sell their Junk too? China doesn’t want it, they make their own, and Europe buy’s all their stuff from China, other European countries or the USA.

    We don’t need our northern neighbours, as much as they need us. Australia is not running out of resources or land, but they are, and its time Australia started to get the upper hand and took advantage of that.

    Its time the dogs stopped dominating the house, and the master took control!!
     
  3. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    The election was two months ago, parliaments only been back for what... a couple of weeks?

    Yeah, that blog post is basically pointless and definitely not journalism. Plenty of other excellent stuff from the Monthly though.
     
  4. Recusant

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    We are not the top dogs. Dogs who think they are get mauled eventually. We're the jack russell who is mates with the bull mastiff and one day that top dog will falter. Our job should be to keep our noses clean so we can relatively easily change direction without history dragging us down. Japan refuses to acknowledge the crimes against the Chinese - that history may come back to haunt them one day.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    After Abbott said the ABC should support the government because its owned by the Commonwealth, I lost all respect for the man, and all sense of defence I'd afford him against the media.
     
  6. Gwendoline

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    Dogs love him:

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  7. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    And I bet even those dogs didn't need an invitation....
     
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    Please explain, I m interested in your thoughts, Japan/China....
     
  9. Rodneyk19505

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    Abbott is trying to run a government that is not in the news all the time. - small g. Unfortunately his inexperienced cabinet are feeling their way in, and making a few missteps, which is forgivable but also newsworthy. Labor (of the left and right) has also pulled its head in, haven't you noticed?
    His tactics are sound considering his total lack of telegenic appeal.:)
     
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    EDIT: not a journo but a lifelong observer (who isn't?):D
     
  11. Bowerbird

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    Telegenic appeal or not the man has yet to show that he is really considering all sides when it comes to decision making. I fear he is a classic case of decisions based on all the wrong reasons
     
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    Work, work, dig away. Eventually the journos will fall in line with the "majority view" and we'll have a change of government.
    First step is to get rid of the absurd and libelous idea that Labor is, or ever has been, divided in any way at all when in fact it's the Liberals that are divided and always have been.
    A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black (racist?).
    In another time and place, long, long ago, involving another people, it was decided that a lie repeated forcefully and often enough by the mass media would be believed by the people. And who suffers; certainly not the people! :banghead:
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    As we can discuss when knowledge becomes knowledge and information remains information, I certainly tend to take personal experience higher as to internet/news information.
    Part of my job is to deal with tourists, from all walks of life and all corners of the planet.
    One of them, a Swiss guy in his 50's recently mentioned, that news about/around Australia hardly makes it into Switzerland.
    However, over the last three months, that has changed.
    He never before watched so many news regarding our nation, and especially our new government, sadly all for the wrong reasons.
    Nothing positive was said about the Honorable Tony Abbotts and his new government.
    So, is this knowledge now or only information?
    And if you tend to believe its information only, why don't we have access to what other nations think about us?
    I let you decide....
    Have a great Sunday, regards
     
  14. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes! The ever accurate

    "Wot sum bloke sed in da pub!!"
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Ha Bowerbird,
    I can assure you, just, but really only just above the pub level......:wink:
    Regards
     
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    Its getting better and better,
    now boats are towed back, despite Abbott's public promise not to do so, press conferences are not hold any more or only when
    this mega dangerous man thinks its the right time to do so. So many secrets, so little trust.
    And according to refugees, they have been mistreated by our pride, the Australian boarder protection.....
    At the moment I would need a big bucket, to accommodate my throwing up....
    Abbotts is worse then Howard, massive mistake to vote for him and just shows, where we stand, mind state wise...
    Regards
     
  17. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    I think Big Tony and his TEAM are doing a good job of cleaning up the mess they inherited from the quasi dictatorship that is the Labor party.
    I think they should turn ALL the boats back and if any pull the old trick of forcing the coast guard to pick them up by sinking the boat they should be immediately returned to their point of departure.
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    What! Are you implying that Kruddy and Juliar considered all sides before making a decision and based their decisions on all the right reasons? Surely you are not that one-eyed BB! I can tell you this, Labor only ever considers the political cost/benefit to themselves when making a decision. The Coalition also consider the political ramifications of their decisions but secondary to getting the job done.
     
  19. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    What an ill-informed, racist, redneckish inhuman human being are you? Can't get much righter then right? I bet your lot arrived in boats as well, some 200 years back. Different things to different people....
    Australia has always gained from new arrivals, and if the Abbotts government wouldn't close the doors, we could further do so.
    Regards
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    You are not a natural born Aussie are you catts. I can tell by the poor english language skills. Yes we have gained from immigration and I am all for it if it is done properly. The welfare shoppers in boats trying to gate crash and que jump our immigration system I do not welcome, send them all back.
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Cats, are you a wog, sheesh. Yes you ave poor English language skills cobber, if ya wanna be a true blue ozzy ya betta pick up the slack mate, I'm tellin ya straight up.
    Lesson one: Gud'ay, ow ya goin, wanna come to the pub and throw down a cupple a skoonas. Why the F not, ya missus got ya by the short and curlies.

    See, nothing to it. Lesson two in speakin proper english tomorra arvo. Gotta go eat me tea.

    My highlight has nothing to do with AM's English skills
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    On the subject of "poor English language skills", there is no such word as que. The English language has a word queue which may be what you meant, the Americans use the word "cue".

     
  23. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    AADD

    Adolf Abbott's Demolishing Democracy

    That' s what it is all about, I think....

    regards
     
  24. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    So what? Do you want me to go through some of your messages and highlight your spelling and grammatical errors? Our errors, unlike the errors that catter makes, would not suggest English being a second language.
    Of course I cannot be certain, but going on the writing errors catter makes I suspect English is not their first language and that infers they were not born in Australia. Do you have a problem with my reasoning? Perhaps catter can tell us if they were born in Australia or not.
     
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    It only adds to my suspicion, that you, AM, are a very racist person.
    What difference would it make to you?
    Does it matter where I come from?
    I am Aussie, at least I think so, just not redneckish (sorry, poor English) by nature.
    Have you got anything important to say about the subject of this thread, Tony Abbotts?
    Or are you plain and simple on the man hunt for those, who doubt your little world?
    Regards
     

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