Birther Movement Capitalizes On Loretta Fuddy's Tragic Death

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  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Trench warfare. We'll never agree on anything, rahl, except perhaps the possibility that deep in the dark recesses of your own mind you may agree I may be right when I say that this doctrinaire, deceitful, jive-ass nothingness doesn't deserve such loyal, steadfast followers as you of his Praetorian Guard. What discipline you show in refusing to discuss at all the fact that he has lied through his teeth about a thing that affects 1/6th of the entire economy of the United States!

    But it remains to be seen who are "some of the dumbest people to have ever graced the internet". This Obamacare lie has already overwhelmed your precious President Transparency... what's going to happen if people start picking at the other piles of his ****? I'd keep my troops on at least Yellow Alert if I were you, Commander... this isn't over yet by any means, and you've got more than three long, weary years to go in your mission to defend this half-witted moron!
     
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    whether you agree or not is irrelevant. there is nothing questionable about his birthplace.


    it's quite obvious actually.
    the ACA has nothing to do with his birthplace or his eligibility, both of which have been proven beyond any and all doubt.
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    It is interesting though.

    Typical of Birthers is that they start from a position of hating Obama and anything and everything he stands for- and then decide his birth place is questionable.

    I think that is readily apparent in this thread. They equate their opposition to what Obama does as a rationalization for believing a bizarre conspiracy theory that would at a minimum include at least 1 Republican governor and 1 Republican Director of Health of Hawaii.
     
  4. Pollycy

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    Sorry to bust into your Praetorian Guard "foxhole", but, just to clarify, what a lot of us "birthers" hate is rotten, damned despicable serial LIAR!

    Once a man LIES to you about something really important, you can have no confidence that he won't lie over and over again, and, that he hasn't lied repeatedly before! If you guys still believe in this deceiving crudball, then too bad for you! As many times as I've seen "birthers" cursed and reviled for being so gullible and stupid, I have to ask such learned gentlemen as the two of you -- how does it feel to realize that you have placed so much faith and trust in such a dirty, lying nothingness as Barack Obama...?
     
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    That has nothing to do with the fact that Obama's natural born citizenship has been proved.
     
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    Apparently many Birthers (not you of course.....) hate that liar so much that they are willing to lie, slander dead people and pretend rumors and gossip are evidence.

    See the point which you and Birthers get confused by, with your blind hatred of Obama is that you have to believe not only that Obama lied, but that the Republican Governor of Hawaii- the state election chair for John McCain- also lied.

    And that the Republican Director of Health of Hawaii also lied.

    And the Democratic Governor of Hawaii lied.

    And the late departed Democratic Director of Health of Hawaii lied also.

    And that the Hawaiian Registrar of Records lied

    Oh and that Obama's parents lied when he was born, and that Hawaiian newspapers lied when he was born.

    Birthers conflate their political distrust for Obama with being Birthers.

    But Birthers will believe that EVERYONE who tells them what they refuse to believe is a liar.

    Why? Well because Birthers have to believe that Obama can't possibly be President. No other answer is conceivable to them.
     
  7. Pollycy

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    We have seen, time and again, that where the will to deceive, connive, and control is backed by enough power, money, and influence, all the right "levers and gears" can rather easily be shifted into motion to accomplish what any faction has set as its goal, jeff. There have always been way too many weird, "one-off" inconsistencies in the Obama "story", so, when this man has been guileless enough to allow himself to be caught in a flat-out, bald-faced LIE, then, as I said, "Once a man LIES to you about something really important, you can have no confidence that he won't lie over and over again, and, that he hasn't lied repeatedly before!"

    If after all this, Obama is still good enough for you, then he's good enough for you, jeff. Obviously, he's not good enough for me, and now that he's shown so clearly and irrefutably exactly what he is, he never can be. I'm done with this, and we're still stuck with Obama until noon on January 20, 2017. You win, again.
     
  8. Walter Powers

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    Okay, I just don't understand why the birthers get so much ridicule. I mean, Obama's past seems pretty shady to begin with, and IN HIS BOOK it said he was born in Kenya! He was kind of asking for it! We now that's false and a lie.
     
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    Apparently many Birthers (not you of course.....) hate that liar so much that they are willing to lie, slander dead people and pretend rumors and gossip are evidence.

    See the point which you and Birthers get confused by, with your blind hatred of Obama is that you have to believe not only that Obama lied, but that the Republican Governor of Hawaii- the state election chair for John McCain- also lied.

    And that the Republican Director of Health of Hawaii also lied.

    And the Democratic Governor of Hawaii lied.

    And the late departed Democratic Director of Health of Hawaii lied also.

    And that the Hawaiian Registrar of Records lied

    Oh and that Obama's parents lied when he was born, and that Hawaiian newspapers lied when he was born.

    Birthers conflate their political distrust for Obama with being Birthers.

    But Birthers will believe that EVERYONE who tells them what they refuse to believe is a liar.

    Why? Well because Birthers have to believe that Obama can't possibly be President. No other answer is conceivable to them.
     
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    You really don't know why Birthers get so much ridicule.

    First of all it is because Birthers lie.

    Lies like "and IN HIS BOOK it said he was born in Kenya!"

    And Birthers ignore that the State of Hawaii has repeatedly and consistently confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    That includes two Governors of Hawaii, two Directors of Health of Hawaii, and the Registrar of Records of Hawaii.

    Why do Birthers get so much ridicule?

    Because they are willing to pass off any lie, rumor, gossip, slander or innuendo as a fact, while rejecting each and every official confirmation that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    They deserve less respect than the people who believe in a Flat Earth.
     
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    Okay, I do not understand why the birther lies continue. Obama never said that he was born in Kenya and there is nothing shady about his past. You just do not like his upbringing.
     
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    In his book it says that he was born in Hawaii.

    Idiotic and easily disproved falsehoods like "IN HIS BOOK it said he was born in Kenya" are perfect examples of why birthers get so much ridicule.They believe stupid stuff.
     
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    Nowhere has Obama ever claimed he was born in Kenya.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Correction, they make up stupid stuff
     
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    All I was saying that if he didn't want people to question his birthplace, maybe he shouldn't have had this falsely published:

    http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/obama_was_actually_born_in_hawaii.png

    I think that the President was born in the US, he was simply doing this to sound more exotic so more people would buy his book. It is justified outrage on the part of the so-called birthers to want this checked into, since he did do that.

    What is that supposed to mean?

    You want the shady parts of his past? How come he was president of the Harvard Law Review without publishing a single one of his law reviews?
     
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    Lets back up a moment- here is what you initially claimed

    Obama's past seems pretty shady to begin with, and IN HIS BOOK it said he was born in Kenya!

    That of course was false from the get-go. Did you lie- or were you mistaken?

    This is important of course- because Birthers regularly lie about President Obama's past- and that is a lie we have heard often from Birthers.

    Secondly- that didn't justify any 'Birther outrage'- the publication was only discovered in 2012- it was so obscure that the fine Birther researchers took 4 years to discover it- 4 years of Birther lies, speculation and innuendo before they found this brochure.

    Finally- the author of the brochure says that the error was entirely hers.

    Which of course makes since- because Barack Obama had been telling national publications since 1990 that he was born in Hawaii.

    How does that make Obama's past shady? I mean to anyone other than a Birther?

    And of course....like so many Birther claims is once again false. Is it a lie? Depends on whether you intended to deceive.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12705.html

    But an unsigned — and previously unattributed — 1990 article unearthed by Politico offers a glimpse at Obama's views on abortion policy and the law during his student days, and provides a rare addition to his body of work.

    So once again- why do you find this 'shady'- and how does that compare to the law review editors before and after Obama?
     
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    you're starting to see the light j. we shall overcome your false expectation of racism, I think we have. politicians and presidents should never use race as a shield. posters should never affect a hypocritical calling.

    one day you will understand, for now, like rahl and Frankie fogbow, I admire your loyalty and dedication to your cause.

    think Chicago.
     
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    Still yet, for anyone to believe the copy of Obama's BC is not a fraud is pathetic and laughable. The officials were verifying that the copy was authentic, not that the info was.
     
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    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

    On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.

    In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is
    sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents
    are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the
    same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24
    p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein
    Obama.

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/09-063.pdf
    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
    records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
    was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/12/reverse-engineering-dr-onaka/
    Alvin Onaka, Registrar of Records, Hawaii:
    1.The original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.
    2.The file number for the Certificate of live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is 151 61 10641.
    3.The information contained in the “Certificate of Live Birth” published at http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate and reviewed by me on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached with your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/arizona-s-secretary-of-state-finally-gets-what-he-asked-for

    This is what Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett has to show for two months of writing emails and nearly a week of nationwide ridicule in his investigation of President Obama's birth certificate: a single sheet of paper.

    Hawaii officials sent the man in charge of Arizona's elections a one-page verification late Tuesday that President Obama was indeed born in their state in 1961.
    There were no surprises in the document. It said the same things Hawaii officials and the president himself have been saying for years and it matched the information that appeared in a copy of the president's long-form birth certificate released by the White House last year.

    But for Bennett, a Republican and co-chairman of Mitt Romney's Arizona campaign, it was something he hoped would quickly put a bewildering chapter of his career behind him.

    "At the request of numerous constituents, I merely asked Hawaiian officials to verify the information contained within President Obama's original birth certificate," Bennett said in a written statement on Wednesday. "They have complied with the request and I consider the matter closed."

    Most authenticated proof of eligibility in the history of American Presidents.

    And it just proves once again- Birthers will not believe anything except that Barack Obama cannot possibly be President.
     
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    Fuddy only certified the copy of what they were told was the original. The rest is interpretation and wanting to believe.
     
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    Birthers are morons
     
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    Non-birthers like you are hopeless, gullible, and are the real morons!:roll:
     
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    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

    On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecord...ate_042711.pdf

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.

    In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is
    sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents
    are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the
    same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24
    p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein
    Obama.

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecord.../05/09-063.pdf
    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
    records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
    was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/...ring-dr-onaka/
    Alvin Onaka, Registrar of Records, Hawaii:
    1.The original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.
    2.The file number for the Certificate of live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is 151 61 10641.
    3.The information contained in the “Certificate of Live Birth” published at http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate and reviewed by me on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached with your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckrak...t-he-asked-for

    This is what Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett has to show for two months of writing emails and nearly a week of nationwide ridicule in his investigation of President Obama's birth certificate: a single sheet of paper.

    Hawaii officials sent the man in charge of Arizona's elections a one-page verification late Tuesday that President Obama was indeed born in their state in 1961.
    There were no surprises in the document. It said the same things Hawaii officials and the president himself have been saying for years and it matched the information that appeared in a copy of the president's long-form birth certificate released by the White House last year.

    But for Bennett, a Republican and co-chairman of Mitt Romney's Arizona campaign, it was something he hoped would quickly put a bewildering chapter of his career behind him.

    "At the request of numerous constituents, I merely asked Hawaiian officials to verify the information contained within President Obama's original birth certificate," Bennett said in a written statement on Wednesday. "They have complied with the request and I consider the matter closed."

    Most authenticated proof of eligibility in the history of American Presidents.

    And it just proves once again- Birthers will not believe anything except that Barack Obama cannot possibly be President.
     
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    How am I gullible?
     
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    :roflol::roflol:
     
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    Birthers are morons.
     

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