War Crimes Tribunal Finds Israel Guilty Of Genocide Against The Palestinian People

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  1. Sherri Munnerlyn

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    "The Genocide Convention, unlike most other human rights treaties, doesn't establish an expert committee, or an organization to monitor its provisions. Instead, it allows any country that is party to the Convention to ask the relevant parts of the UN to take appropriate action (according to the UN Charter) to prevent or stop acts of genocide. This makes it possible to bring the issue before the International Court of Justice—and the court may order immediate protective measures to be taken while other steps are begun.

    http://www.cyberschoolbus.un.org/treaties/genocide.asp
     
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    Malaysian tribunal finds former Israeli general guilty of crime against humanity and genocideTamil Guardian 26 November 2013

    "Noting that that the verdict was declaratory in nature Yunus(*)suggested

    “What we can do is to recommend the KLWCT to submit this finding of conviction by the tribunal, together with the record of these proceedings to the chief prosecutor of the international Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations (UN) and the UN Security Council.”

    The tribunal was a result of complaints received by Palestine victims to the KLWCT.

    (*)http://www.tamilguardian.com/article.asp?articleid=9347
     
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    And has vowed to destroy Israel rather than make peace and be safe. Seems to add up to a deliberate genocide on their part if indeed there ever was one.

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    Not sanctioned by any qualified body, that's the laugh! :roflol:
     
  4. Face. Your

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    This wasn't even sanctioned by the UN it is a kangaroo court headed by a Muslim state with all Muslim judges except for one, it is the equivalent of having an all Jewish court at the Nuremberg trials.
     
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    No. Kahan ruled that Israel was indirectly responsible but Sharon bore "direct responsibility" for failing to predict the massacres. He was forced to resign as defence minister as a result of that ruling.
    Israel was put on trial because Israel was responsible for the safety of the refugees, and was responsible for allowing the Phalangist militia access to the camp. The IDF stood by and did nothing to prevent the massacres-indeed the IDF assisted the Phalange by firing illuminating flares over the camps.

    What I find remarkable is your inability and unwillingness to condemn Israel. On the contrary you seem eager to point the deflecting finger of blame elsewhere. This is tantamount to a tacit support of Israel's actions.
     
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    Why do Jews have words associated to only themselves - Pogroms and Holocaust (capital H). This does not help their cause.
     
  7. Gilos

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    The "Pogrom" is a Russian word, it was a special decree by the Tzar that designated only Jewish settelments, seems to me that if a murder did occur the least one can do is respect the tombstone.

    I heard of the Armenian Holocaust too, the common reference to the Jewish Holocaust is due to its scope that was unparallel in history.
     
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    Being found to "bear direct responsibility" and forced to resign doesn't fall into any category of 'reprimand' that I know. Unless a mild telling-off has changed its definition recently.
    I will repeat this until it eventually sinks in; if you are present during the commission of murder, and in a position to prevent it but do nothing, then you are as equally culpable as those who do the actual killing. Semantic waltzing won't change the facts, or the law.

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    Oh go away, you're boring me.
     
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    I seem to recall several brave and fearless IDF personnel being convicted for using Palestinians as human shields. Of course I could be mistaken in which case you will, no doubt, correct me. Won't you?
     
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    The major world problem and the special situation for Israel is that they are NOT yet guilty of genocide against the very peoples intent on belying "Never Again" (Jordanians, misnomered as Palestinians).

    Americans had Japanese people living in the USA when Pearl Harbor was attacked.
    Just as they did by invading Iraq after 911, these Japanese people were all rounded up and incarcerated as a preventive action against a possible enemy.

    After 70 year now, it ought be obvious to most liberal Jew that these people are like cancer to this slogan, Never Again..

    Now is the right moment to eliminate and remove, push Gaza into Egypt, and warn the West Bankers, while Iran and Syria have problems to deal with, and the Sanctions are still hurting.
    The Arab Spring has all the Muslim nations fighting amongst themselves.

    Now is the time for Ultimatums.
    Peace with out daily breaches in such an understanding, or else, Never never, again,
     
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    Never Again is all that Jews ought focus on.

    These debates and discussions are just delays while the "cancer" with is growing within Gaza, Iran, and the UN ferments and develops the means to accomplish what has been OVERTLY proclaimed as the impending genocide of The Jews.

    Israel has the nuclear capability to demand Iran dismantle the Nuke Facilities immediately or they will use their one singular advantage at this time, while it remains an advantage,... A-bomb the facilities.

    Neither Russia nor America need e invited to this discussion between Israel and Iran, since the Jews were put on notice that Jewish genocide has been publically proclaimed.
    Never Again is the point.

    Never again should nor ought these same people march slowly towards the point of no return, passively discussions things with the nations, which themselves, have NEVER tolerated such threats without direct preparation for military response.
     
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    Not so - "unparalleled" Stalin's Jews murdered 20 million Ukrainian Christians .

    Read and digest :

    ( article from Ynet written Sever Plocker -a Jew ) he admits :


    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish


    Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.
    Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

    We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

    Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

    In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.


    Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.


    All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened to the public. But who knows about this?

    Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD's and KGB's service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of "How could it have happened to us?" As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.


    And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."


    Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.


    Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. (a Jew) - Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.


    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin.

    They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.


    The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things

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    Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.



    source -
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html


    Most leading Bolshevik officials who took over Russia were Jewish or Jewish descent they - hated Christians.

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    Never again.... unless you are Palestinian..

    You obviously have never cared a fig about the Palestinian Christians who were also forced out by the Zionists.
     
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    On the contrary Liberal Jews have been waking up for a few decades now at how Israel goes against their conscience. Just needs a ticking point. Possibly quite near.
     
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    Im not denying the murders Stalin and his fanatics committed but I cant discuss on the Holocaust scope with Holocaust denier....lol, you need to learn the basics first.

    I would be willing to state the diffrence with someone who is not ignorant to history thou!
     
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    " Stalin's Jews murdered many millions more Christians than your claim of
    b u t -

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    I've said my piece and disproved your claim.



    Shaaa-lom
     
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    I care for the Jews, in this case, who initialed purchased their farms and lands from the Arabs living in Israel, and then have been attack ever after with the stated purpose of genocide, an the end of their State, Israel.
    I do not care what these bomb throwing, school bus terrorists say as they hurl rockets from where they reside into Israel.

    It they were foreigners doing this from an Island in the caribbean islands, I would support force by Americans, too.
     
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    His claims are funny.

    A Russian guy, merely married to a Jewish wife is the basis for accusing Israel of a holocaust by the very p[peoples of Gog and Magog now and still troubling the Jews so far away as Israel.
     
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    They didn't purchase squat.. in May 1948 they owned less than 6% of the land... and the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem was quite small.

    The Zionists killed over 400 British Peacekeepers before Statehood...
     
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    Sharon's responsibility for 'not anticipating' is a far cry from Arab's direct responsibility for a massacre they committed. Duh!
     
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    You surely are talking about British occupiers who brutally executed hundreds of Jews in Palestine and sent thousands of Jews back to Europe during WWII to certain death.
     
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    Looks like you failed to remove yr blinkers and have not read the whole article confusing Yezhov with Genryikh Yagoda who was a Jew ( if he was alive today - he'd have qualified to do Aliya - as many others Bolsheviks .

    Tthe author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in his work, "Gulag Archipelago, Vol 2," affirms that Zionist Jews created and administered the organized Soviet concentration camp system in which these tens of millions of Christians and Non-Jews died.

    On page 79 of this book he even names the administrators of this the greatest killing machine in the history of the world.

    They are Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda, and Naftaly Frenkel. All six were Zionist Jews
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    In 1970 Solzhenitsyn would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for literature.

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    The original ownership deeds of the Ottoman era still exist and displayed at the Museum

    It does not mean the Arabs had the rest, the entire South did not belong to either of them, in pop Jews were about half of the Arabs.

    40% is not that small.

    How many did the Arabs kill ?
     
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    Look at a map of Jerusalem circa 1900.

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    Every bit of arable land was under cultivation by Arab famers and had been since the Romans... generation after generation.
     
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    Aye, as the original names of many places got twisted in Arabic - prove, it was Jewish before and it is Jewish once again today.
     

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