Why are white people pro-diversity?

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  1. Frank Grimes

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    Mexicans are not slaves. Secondly Japan did in fact bring a lot of Koreans over to work in Japan during World War 2, and they turned korea in a giant slave labor camp. The only difference is that the Koreans went back home, American blacks did not. Lincoln himself thought that was a mistake.
     
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    And Blacks were here for hundreds of years, before they were freed. By the time the insanity of enslaving them here was ended, they had seriously deep ROOTS within American culture itself; just as deep as most White people.
     
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    The point was Japan did in fact bring hundreds of thousands of Koreans to Japan. Essentially though they didn't have to since they annexed the whole Korean peninsula.

    Black slaves had their own culture and white people had theirs, there wasn't one culture. This is emphasized by blacks even today. The real reason is that Africa was and is a (*)(*)(*)(*)hole.
     
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    The mere fact that people don't merge in Us or brazil ( let them be latinos. Wasp or blacks) is already
    A hint that multiracialism or multiculturalism will fail
    One day or another. You can't force people to live together if they won't want ( detroit. White flight. Gated community and racial getho) for exemple
     
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    Thats just it the Koreans didn't become Japanese and your right Lincoln didn't end slavery because he loved black folks, he thought the practice of slavery itself was immoral.
     
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    Of course it is failing, it always has failed since it is human nature.

    Whites build successful civilizations, then come the locusts to feed because they can't make their own. It is the simple truth. Mexicans on one hand claim we are racist, and then they demand to move in and live with us. Blacks kick and scream to live in neighborhoods right next to the people they don't like.
     
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    I'm really tired of this constant race baiting. The only thing that should be important is the conduct of a person,not the color of their skin. I worked with a lot of Blacks and Hispanics on my job and for most part, they were all nice. I have met some I truly dislike. My one Daughter is married to a Hispanic who is lazyer than hell. My Grand daughter is married to a Hispanic that is working two jobs while also going to college. We have good and bad in all races and we can't judge them all by a few.

    Why is it since Obama got elected, race has come up so often? Not only the hate for the man because of his color, but his backers see race in everything that comes up.
     
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    right, and black people never became like white people, they just didn't have any good immigration options.
     
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    It is not baiting, it's honest discussion. What I find interesting is how uncomfortable white people are with this topic when others bring it up at the drop of a hat.

    I also worked with blacks in the military. The EEOC crap was never ending and I really tried to be color blind but my black colleagues would not have it.
     
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    Sometimes its hard for the average white person to understand where black folks are coming from for the simple fact you have never had to deal with the racism or discrimination that black folks have dealt with all their lives. For example many folks don't want to believe it, but in alot of cases it is totally different when a white person is pulled over as compared to someone black. There is still subtle racism that is prevelant in America and I will give you an example. I was in a IHOP and a white guy was in front of me and paid with a credit card the cashier who was white took his card swiped it he signed the bill and was on his way. I stepped up handed her my card and she automatically asked me to see my ID, so of course I asked her why didn't she ask the white customer in front of my for his ID and she couldn't answer the question. I have also been in line behind a white customer before and he hands her a card and she swipes it as credit, when I step up she ask me is that going to be debit which requires a pin number. So until you have experienced racism or discrimination it is hard to understand why some folks always question it or believe it is there.
     
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    superbad, do you not understand the flip side? black men commit crimes at seven times the rate of whites, so it is completely rational to take more precaution with black men because your risk is higher. Remember Jesse Jackson's quote?
     
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    What you're saying is only partly right. You are leaving out a whole lot, such as the historical REALITY that African Americans were here a VERY long time before they were freed. And that the nuances we see in American culture (the multicultural MOSAIC) is a result of combining (mixing) of many cultures. The natural assimilation of cultures is what many dreaded taking place, but it is happening right before our eyes.

    Also, I can only wonder what Africa might have been, had Europeans gone to that land, used its people and pillaged it so. :(
     
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    Man!! Thank you for the breath of 'sanity'. Some people in this forum (and beyond it), just don't see America as it is. They think that only THEIR experiences are real/valid.

    The simple solution is to find people of another group, talk with and spend time with them; see what's REAL in their lives.

    You said:
    And that explain 90+% of the inaccuracies many White Americans in this forum espouse on a daily basis. It is something I've lived with virtually all of my adult life.
     
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    We are not mono-cultural, I have no idea where you get that idea. Ask black people about their culture.

    Africa would be the same, it does not work like that. There are many black tribes in the amazon that have had no contact with the outside world. On the other hand Korea was leveled in 1938, enslaved, leveled again in 1950, then came back to be a world leading economy. Germany was destroyed in 1945, they are now an economic powerhouse. Motivated and talented people will always rebuild in short order.
     
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    crime stats are not reality? sure.

    “There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

    -Jesse Jackson
     
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    People need to SEE the WHOLE DAMNED THING now... instead of just one side at a time. It is time for that.

    Questions:

    What of Black American Culture (pros/cons) are a result of White American Culture?

    What are some of the literal problems with White American Culture, which due to social-unawareness persist affecting all other cultures within the American Mosaic?


    Now, I don't expect the deepest answers here in this internet forum, but the profound answers lurking within each of us (even from our unique perspectives) are indeed an important part of the real and lasting solutions which are integral to the legacy of racism, that none who are American can truly deny.

    In other words: Those who are in denial... need to pull their heads out.
     
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    YOUR overall interpretation of crime stats... likely BS.

    ANYONE can contrive a crappy portrait of reality, even using "stats" and facts. (Seen it, been there.)

    Certainly, it's time for a more socially-holistic approach; that BS you are spouting above, is divisive nonsense. (There is too much of it in America and it is significant part of this nation's overall problems; politically and otherwise.)

    The MANNER in which you are attempting to paint "reality", absolutely infuriates and disgusts me.
     
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    There we go, it's all white people's fault.

    The violence and anti-intellectual attitude in black culture exists everywhere there are black people in numbers. The only person who can decide to not be violent is the same person, so assigning blame for such a personal decision is rather stupid.

    Sorry America, we are stuck with these morons
     
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    90% of those crimes are committed against other black people, also certain types of crimes but if we look at all crimes as a whole black folks account for 28% while whites account for almost 69% yet black folks are incarcerated at 42% whereas whites are only incarcerated at 34%.

    The majority of crimes committed against whites are committed by other whites, but what is amazing is you will only talk about the ones committed by blacks.
     
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    which puts you at odds with every law enforcement agency out there, and puts you at odds with reason. There is no 'interpretation' as Jesse said, my chances are better off around white people.
     
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    Who said that America was, "mono-cultural"? I actually implied the opposite.

    What the hell are you talking about here?

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    That isn't what I said.

    Please get a grip on yourself.
     
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    Actually that is not true because once we were brought here as slaves we lost our language, our religion, our culture, our God. That is the reason 98% of the descendants of slaves can't tell you what part of Africa they are from because we were cut-off, pretty much bastardized.

    There are several reasons for that today.

    She wasn't always a (*)(*)(*)(*)hole until she was corrupted by western civilization.
     
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    all that means is that we tend to avoid each other.

    I am completely in favor of getting rid of drug use incarceration, you are right, that part isn't fair and I do what I can to end that.

    I am also in favor of black men stopping the shooting of other black men, period. The problem is that black people then blame it on me, why?
     
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    If you say so.

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    Can you give me an example of where a black man killed another black man and then claimed it was whites that made him do it.
     
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    Exactly. And that is what I meant about people trying to PAINT a portrait of America from a single perspective.

    I think the figure is around 86% of Whites experiencing crime, comes from other White Americans.

    So, KNOWING that, I realize the problem is CRIME ITSELF and solutions need to be aimed at the causes or reasons... NOT necessarily at African Americans.

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    Frank Grimes, you are on ignore.

    (You are trying to waste my time.)

    Best Regards.
     

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