Is that pork? Alcohol? Sorry, sir, you have to see another cashier.

Or - some Jews - i.e. Observant Jews, - Hell ! there are Jews in Israel who spit on Christian priests .

"Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passer by spat in his face.

The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.

On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop's 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.

Read and learn :

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...m-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099

 

Anyone who is for this is for religious apartheid, separate lines based on belief systems. my religion won't allow me to sell Halal food because I think it is a offering to a false prophet for a false god, so may I refuse all Halal products which cross my register? I think not, you are not for religious tolerance you are for apartheid plain and simple.

 

So where do you draw the line? Can radical evangelicals deny service to gays? Can Christian identity deny service to African Americans and Jewish people? Can I refuse to sell Halal and Kosher products because it contradicts with my faith? Can I have this Saturday or Sunday off from now into perpetuity because it's the Sabbath? Are Muslims allowed 5 breaks to pray?

I don't think you comprehend how serious I am about not liking to wait in lines.

 

Taking the store policy to the next level, we could have Muslim and Non-Mulsim lines at this store. Maybe bathrooms for men, women, and Moslems as well.

Come to think of it, how would an innocent customer even know that they might be approaching a Muslim cashier? Should we ask these cashiers to wear a yellow moon and star symbol on their clothes? You know - purely for ID purposes, of course.

See how ridiculous this becomes when you follow their logic?

 

I don't think I have the kind of wisdom to draw an ultimate line here. I'm just trying to put myself in other people's shoes.
As an employer I would not hire people who refuse to serve gays, African-Americans or Jews or any other group. I would not hire a Muslim if I had the impression he or she doesn't want to get in contact with my merchandise. I would however try to make prayer breaks possible for any Muslim who wants to do his job at my company. I had an Algerian co-worker once and his prayers did not take any longer than my cigarette breaks, so what the hell.

Maybe you misunderstand me, but I hate waiting, too. I always join the shortest line, so if I was refused service there and had to go back into a longer line, I'd be seriously pissed.

 

IMO if you choose to work there, you serve customers what they wish to purchase. If you don't like it, find another job.

That simple.

 

Only in the West.

 

The company operates in a Muslim neighborhood, in a Muslim city. Give them a break, they are trying to turn a profit and this probably helps their bottom line. London and Paris are the Meccas of the west now. Thousands of years of cultural history for those cities is changing, and the store just want to keep up. Would you open a hot dog stand in Baghdad? Probably not, and for the same reasons. You want to make cash and you want people to want to shop with you.

 

Infidel is an English word not found in the Quran. Jews and Christians are kafir

In earliest recited verses of Qur'an, such as Al-Kafirun, the term kafir simply divided Meccan community into believers and unbelievers. In later recited verses, particularly those recited after the Hijra in 622 AD, the concept of infidel - kafir - was expanded upon, with Jews and Christians included.

 

Funny, no one voted to allow mass immigration into London, so you can't be surprised when people get angry when the land of their birth is being fundamentally changed by the same people who blew up the London Underground, blew up a plane over Lockerbie, killed a soldier in broad daylight on a busy street, and of course who routinely burn poppies and thus desecrate the memories of loved ones who died in numerous wars.

Of course, the people who are naturally outraged at this are branded "racists", by the left wing propaganda machine.

 

Wonder if the sucking up to muslims in UK would trump their sucking up to gays. Would they force a Muslim baker to bake a wedding cake for gay couples?

 

You can handle a little diversity UK, don't get your knickers in bunch and stay clear of the riots. You forgot to mention those.

You have to have immigration anyway. The native population is below the replacement rate. You would have Japan's problems without it.

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You can handle a little diversity UK, just stay clear of the riots. You forgot to mention those.

You have to have immigration anyway. The native population is below the replacement rate. You would have Japan's problems without it.

 

The "Line" is that a store that sells items should respect it's customers FIRST, LAST, and ONLY, and any open register should be used to check out any item the store has to sell, unless it's controlled items like prescription meds, or there's a special cage for tobacco and alcohol sales that are seen in some markets.

The desires of the person operating the checkout register are simple to deal with and respect: the employer informs the prospective employee that as a checkout cashier they will be responsible for HANDLING and selling every item in the store, and they will indicate their willingness to do just that by signing an agreement that allows the employer to dismiss them on the spot if they refuse to perform their jobs as stated.

If they have religious objections to handling certain items, then it may be possible to place them in employment in special departments, but again, they will have to sign waivers acknowledging that they have been informed that their refusal to handle or process certain items may, and probably will, limit their ability to get promotions within the company. (a shyster would have to word the things, of course).

And what happens if a radical vegan is assigned to a check out register, and refuses to sell cow corpse and chicken corpses, and even milk and eggs, as the loonier vegans would be loathe to do? What happens, does the store have to have a "Muslim" line, a "Kosher" line, a "piscetarian" line, a "radical vegan kook" line, a "Nut Free" line (vegans not allowed), and a Organic Mother Nature line?

What if there's only one registor open before midnight, and the muslim is running that....do all beer sales stop?

 

I think that patronizes Muslims and encourages extremists.

I wonder if the idiot policy we are talking of was even their idea. It sounds like some classic liberal and guilt ridden self righteous Caucasian attempt at placating Muslims and was initiated by some guild ridden gentile.

If a Muslim can't serve gentiles then why would they work in a gentile store in the first place? They would believe they could only work in Halal stores.

I doubt the Muslims in the store where this idiot policy was attempted initiated it.

I do not doubt there are Muslims who want to get accommodation at all kinds of places. I just am saying on this one I think its tempting to give all Muslims a bad rap on this foolish idea.

I am sure there are many who also agree it was a stupid idea and do not need the kind of appeasement you talk of.

That's just my opinion though. I can't speak for anyone else.

 

I think this entire subject has been blown out of all proportion. The way I see it is that if a muslim or any other strict follower of a religion feels he/she cannot serve/handle certain products on the basis of some crazy religious belief, then as long as the company does not discriminate against other staff who refuse to serve customers on the same dopey religious grounds, then so be it. It's not as if a similar practice is not standard in many retail outlets including major supermarkets here in the UK anyway. For example, if I want to buy a bottle of wine in my local Waitrose supermarket here in London, it's against company policy for any member of staff of the said store under the age of 21 to handle the transaction. Instead, it has to be handled by a supervisor who is over 21. This entire subject is in truth a non-issue.

 

Muslim employees refuse to do the job they were hired to do. The key word here is 'refuse'. They demand that the employer accommodate their absurd demands at the expense of the customer What exactly does it have in common with your example and who do you think you are kidding?

 

As Trout stated in a large company such as Walmart or a Grocery Store it is easy for an employer to accommodate a persons religious beliefs but if a Muslim applies for a job and get's it at a small convenience store and refuses to sell Beer or refuses to sell Pre-made Pork Sandwiches....well tough luck as they knew going in the conditions.

AboveAlpha

 

Heck, I'll tell you what the next step is: A Muslim teacher in a public school will refuse to teach some of her female kids unless they start wearing burkas. And I'd be willing to bet the admins will back her up on it.

 

Unlikely as such Muslim Extremists would never teach girls in the first place as in their minds women are for breeding.

As well any Muslim Teacher having the credentials to teach in U.S. Public Schools is not going to be an extremist.

It really is sad too because at one time Muslim Nations were leaders in Science, Medicine, Technology and this was all lost due to Extremism.

AboveAlpha

 

True enough.

Won't happen here. In Europe, however -

 

Yes, they can and should be accommodated by being reassigned to other duties. Creating Halal cash registers is not the kind of accommodation that leaps to mind, it's a spit in the face of the customers and is frankly discriminatory

 

I would say that such Muslims are extremely rare in the United States as there are MILLIONS of Muslims living very peacefully in the United States and they came here to get away from the Islamic Extremism and Waring between competing religious sects.

I know many Muslim families and they are very proud of their new country and all the Muslims I know living in the states have become American Citizens.

But as will any demographic you are going to get a percentage who are a pain in the ass....just look at the small percentage of Christian's who attempt to kill Planned Parenthood Doctors.

AboveAlpha

 

After the French Muslim Riots almost a decade ago, you had the usual talking heads waxing philisophical about what it meant, and of course many asked if such could happen in the US. The prevailing notion I kept hearing was that Europe, that most enlightened of places, almost actively discourages assimilation into the larger culture while the US, although flawed, encourages it. Thus you get Muslims coming over who seek to learn the culture, for the most part while ghettoization of immigrants has continued in Europe into the third and fourth generation. Another thing is the ambient racism of Europe in that the native Whites there and/or their cultures almost prevent social climbing for Muslims and other darker-skinned immigrants, while in America it's much more possible for immigrants to do so (see: People, Boat). I can't really say I disagreed with their assessments regarding Europe.

 

I was astounded when FRANCE passed a law that forbid Muslim Women to wear a Veil. LOL!!!

Of course France also passed a law forbidding the use of the word...E-MAIL...and their reason was the word was eroding the French Language!! LOL!!!

Enlightened my ASS!!

AboveAlpha

 

That's - well, to paraphrase the sig of one of our posters: "Hello. I'm from Europe, the place racism comes from."

The veil thing amazed me. The only time IMHO that women should not wear them or burkas is while getting your drivers license ID picture taken or while driving - seems they'd interfere with peripheral vision and would be a safety issue.