Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by SourD, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This was before the Texas incident and he said it was racist and not to be tolerated.
     
  2. JavisBeason

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    noone is condoning what this white guy did despite the obvious attempts at diversion from some on here to avoid the more pressing issue at hand, the double standard of hate crime legislation.

    He is not a poster child for the cause.... but this is clearly a case where true hypocracies are being exposed.


    This guy should get the same punishment that this guy gets....

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com...olice-charge-a-13-year-old-and-a-15-year-old/

    if you aren't going to charge them with a hate-crime, you can't charge this guy in TX with hate-crime either.

    all the criminals in both my story and the texas story should have the book thrown at them, but hate-crime both, or hate-crime neither.
     
  3. apoState

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    You guys have heard of "evidence", right? Simply attacking someone of a different race is not sufficient evidence for bringing a hate crime charge if you want any chance of conviction. Had this white dumbass not videotaped himself using racial slurs in conjunction with his attack he wouldn't have been charged with a hate crime because there wouldn't have been sufficient evidence for that. He would have just been charged with assault or battery or whatever it is called, just like the black assailants. Do many blacks call it "Knockout Whitey"? Yes. Do I think think the cases of blacks knocking out white people is racially motivated? Yes. But that doesn't mean the DA had sufficient evidence in any particular case to prove it was race based beyond a reasonable doubt. Show me a case of the black kids saying something like "Let's kick that cracker's ass" prior to the assault in which they weren't charged with a hate crime and I will say you have a point. Almost 30% of people convicted for hate crimes are black so they do get charged with hate crimes. But supposedly we live in a country of laws in which the prosecution actually has to have compelling evidence for any particular charge, otherwise they are just throwing tax payer money away.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How in HELL do you know that?. Do you hang out with young black toughs an awful lot or what?

    I think there is some effort being made to charge whatever blacks that they have CAUGHT and CONVICTED as yet with hate crimes. The problem is that really grainy surveillance photos that don't even identify the assailant very well are somewhat difficult to prove motive with. They're especially bad at this when you compare them with some idiot who took the picture on his own (probably)HI DEF PHONE and then TOLD a COP he'd done it FOR THAT SPECIFIC REASON.

    In any case I don't think the case will ever go to court. I don't think they can try you for a crime until AFTER you're released from a mental institution, and I don't see that happening for this Yahoo for a long time.
     
  5. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Simple! He is the ONLY ONE who was stupid and arrogant enough to not only TAPE the attack, but also to make racial comments that showed that he PREMEDITATED this attack and SELECTED a Black elderly man specifically because he was Black.

     
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    DOJ (Eric Holder) brings hate-crime charges against “knockout game” suspect….when suspect is white. That's all that needs to be said except Holder is a racist.
     
  7. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope. . . it's just that THIS White man was just too dumb and too arrogant and not only did he tape himself, but he also made a RACIST comment that demonstrated the premeditated, RACIAL nature of this specific attack.
     
  8. AmericanNationalist

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    Which is unfortunate, but may be necessary for the State. It's the worst case scenario to the 1964 resolution to the problem of segregation. It was the sincere hope and desire that African-Americans could achieve a high sense of dignity and self-worth. The reality is that only 5%(at best) of the African-American population has met this criteria, while the vast majority of African-Americans are and will remain at the lower levels.

    It may not be politically correct to say a eugenics program, but 1) Sanger herself sang the praises of this eugenics program and 2)Your correct, they mostly force it on themselves.

    Through the destruction of Radical Liberalism(and a plain lack of common sense), the minority classes will hang the noose around their own necks but the problem is, is that we ourselves are suffering from a lack of civil protection from the law as a result of Liberalism.

    If we can keep ourselves somehow from going down with the rest of the crap, it's a victory for the American State and for our own survival as a social class.
     
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    DOJ (Eric Holder) brings hate-crime charges against “knockout game” suspect….when suspect is white. That's all that needs to be said except Holder is a racist.
     
  10. Sadanie

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    Anyone hurting someone else during a Knockout game attack should be charged and go to jail.
    However, it is obvious that, in the example you give, the culprit was a 15 year old. . .NOT an adult.
    Underage children, no matter what their race or their size are not usually charged as ADULTS (and shouldn't be). The guy in Texas was a 28 year old man, AND they have a recording showing that he PREMEDITATED the attack specifically against an ELDERLY BLACK man.

    While I certainly do not excuse ANYONE practicing that dangerous, destructive "game," it is obvious that it is a lot easier to charge someone with a hate crime when there are RECORDINGS detailing his intention, AND he is an adult!
     
  11. After Hours

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    lol, you should read some of the comments sections on articles written about this hate crime.

    A lot of right wing retards consider this payback.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ah, and here are some pesky facts your average conservative doesn't want to hear. They are too busy trying to play the victim.
     
  12. After Hours

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    So, you're basically admitting that slavery and jim crow laws were products of conservatism? Good, I've been saying that for years.

    It's about time a right winger actually admits the truth.
     
  13. Sadanie

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    Yep, your comment is a good example of what is WRONG with so many on the extreme Right: They don't want to HEAR the full context of issues, they ONLY want to make up their mind on the minimum informations required to meet THEIR agenda!

    Duh! Talk about making one's mind based on NOTHING related to the evidence in a case!

    No wonder you are a Zimmerman supporter!

    Maybe you could send some money to this guy too for his "defense' fund! His attorney was totally lost when he was told that his "my client has bipolar disorder" defense didn't make sense!
     
  14. AmericanNationalist

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    When did I ever say that? Where did I ever say that in this post? Where did I even identify as a 'Conservative'? I reject the Neo-Cons and the Tea Partiers might as well be pretenders at this stage. I'm a Centrist-rightist, I care more for America than I do those tub of lard called politicians.

    I'm observing a social-cultural FACT. The ghettos, the destructive violence, etc, the poor neighborhoods did not come from nowhere. And no, fixing House pricing didn't cause it either. It's a shock to some of you I know, but they actually take pride in this "community".

    And it's not that I advocated for State-authorized Eugenics. It's that the Eugenics currently practiced is self-mutilated and actually approved of, by both their own community and by the Liberals who supposedly "support them".

    In light of that support, I actually concur with it as being the far better option, then simply keeping the degenerates around who end up sullying the 5% of African-Americans who rose above these pathetic "prospects".

    Equality can only be had when people are actually equal, so get rid of the leeches and allow the prosperous African-Americans to be the African-American community at large.

    Either that, or said leeches could actually stand not to cry 'racism' and try to improve their miserable lot but you and I both know they have a fat chance of that ever happening.
     
  15. After Hours

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    I'm sure conservatives called the liberal progressive whites who ended slavery and who put an end to jim crow laws "self loathing whites" too.

    Just sayin'
     
  16. Really People?

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    Lol. with nothing indicating that Eric Holder brought up said charges...

    Mod Edit ~ Maintain focus on the thread topic.
     
  17. jthorp24

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    How about more opportunities for everyone? Your white guilt is showing. You are trying to combat racism with institutional racism. Affirmative action programs and racial quotas have NOT worked. They have actually had a negative impact. They are the perfect example of liberal programs that sound good, but don't work in the real world.
     
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    My post that you quoted acknowledged that point. Geez.

    Crack however is a worse drug than cocaine. However, the sentence discrepancy between the two drugs is ridiculous.
     
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    LOL How do I know? I payed attention when they first started broadcasting the stories then I noticed the obvious change in the story as it became epidemic. Or in your mind do you really think the black people who are sucker punching white people would never call it knock out whitey game? And they also just happen to only find the one white person in their neighborhood by "accident" to knock out? I mean seems normal a black person who would sucker punch an elderly white guy would also have the moral stature to never call him "whitey".

    But just to be clear, Zimmerman was a race crime with no evidence whatseover, but your grainy VIDEO footage of blacks knocking out whites isnt enough?
     
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    Lincoln stated that blacks were not equal to Whites........and wanted to ship them all back to Africa.......he was a realist not a self-loather. Unfortunately, he was unable to fully carrry out his plans and we are left with the consequences today........knock-out games, low test scores, cities that don't function, increasing welfare state, children without fathers, 600 people rioting at a movie theater on Christmas Day, hundreds if 'teens' flash mobbing a mall in New York........in other words, the same things that they would be doing with their "brothas and sistas" back in Africa had Lincoln been able to follow through with his plan.
     
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    and blacks never call someone a cracker or honky when they don't get charged.
     
  22. After Hours

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    Thanks for admitting that slavery and jim crow laws were products of a conservative mentality.
     
  23. jthorp24

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    They weren't. You attempting to rewrite history will not change that.
     
  24. After Hours

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    Lol, it's the conservatives who attempt to rewrite history.

    Thankfully, there's a significant amount of racist conservatives who are honest about it.
     
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    Nope. You are the one trying to rewrite history.

    The Democratic party has always been the racist party and will continue to be. First it was slavery, then Jim Crow, now it's keeping blacks down in society by enabling them.
     

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