"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    See? The rhetoric is working. I'm getting bored already..
     
  2. Hannibal

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    Time to run away?
     
  3. Brother Jonathan

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    It is. Whatever is claimed "officially" is thought to be the truth no matter what the facts are. Public school indoctrination to not question authority.
     
  4. Hannibal

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    Wrong again: The evidence is the evidence. Always question authority and look at the facts.
    More important: don't get mislead by the snake oil salesmen trying to sell you 'trutherism'.
     
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    Yes, exactly bro. Truth be dammed. Bearded cave dwellers dismantled, owned, and operated the entire US intelligence structure, for two hours, and defeated the biggest superpower (at the time), with box cutters, failed acrobatic pilots, and sheer brilliance. Now, don't you forget it. :)
     
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    NO inside help
     
  7. Hannibal

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    Talk about rhetoric.

    More bearded cave dwellers nonsense. Why do you 'truthers' invent these boogie men to try and sell your snake oil?
     
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    No 'bearded cave dwellers' sigmund,you keep repeating that lie
     
  9. Brother Jonathan

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    Let's look at one piece of evidence ignored by truth debunkers.

    How could tiny fragments of people be found on the roof of a building 250 feet from the WTC Towers if explosives were not used?
     
  10. Scott

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    (from post #106)
    The length of the craft in this picture can be calculated because we know the height of the Pentagon at the point at which it's as far from the camera as the craft is.
    http://0911.voila.net/index3.htm
    (top picture)

    We know the angle of the craft so the length has to be increased by about twenty five percent to get its true length. A 757 is twice as long as the Pentagon is high. The length of the craft behind the box in that picture, when increased by twenty five percent, is not twice as long as the Pentagon is high at the spot where they are both the same distance from the camera.

    This link used to go to where I showed the math but it's not working now.
    http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7208375&postcount=243

    It was working yesterday. Maybe it will come back.

    We don't know what happened to flight 77 but our not knowing doesn't make the proof that the craft that hit the Pentagon was too short to be a 757 go away. There are several plausible scenarios. Here's one.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk
    "9/11 - Painful Deceptions - (Full Length)."
    (44:00 time mark)

    The theory is that a 757 flew over the Pentagon and landed at the airport behind it...
    http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2170

    ...and the craft that hit it came in at a different angle.

    There are witnesses who say they saw a 757 hit the Pentagon and there are others who say they saw a much smaller craft.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10632

    This fits the scenario of there being planted fake witnesses and a few real ones.

    It seems that having an actual 757 hit the Pentagon would have been more difficult than a layman would expect.
    http://killtown.blogspot.com.es/2006/06/why-they-didnt-use-757-to-hit-pentagon.html

    The crash site is consistent with a smaller craft's having hit.
    http://physics911.net/missingwings/
     
  11. Hannibal

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    The first thing that comes to mind is planes exploding into occupied office buildings. Debris from the impacts alone flew in all directions. That would include human debris.
     
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  13. Brother Jonathan

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    That is impossible because the other tower was still standing directly between the first impact and the Deutsche Bank building while the Deutsche Bank building was behind the second impact.

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  14. Brother Jonathan

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    Tom Sullivan explains how it could have been done.
     
  15. Hannibal

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    The impacts blew debris in many directions, you've seen the videos. In addition: what do you think the collapsing buildings did to the humans still inside them? The crushing energy of the collapse ground concrete down and ejected it - human bodies didn't stand a chance.

    - - - Updated - - -

    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/major-problems-with-tom-sullivans-ae911truth-interview/
     
  16. Brother Jonathan

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    Some of those body parts were of first responders. They weren't in the airplane.
     
  17. Hannibal

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    Note where I said:

     
  18. Brother Jonathan

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    Gravity has zero lateral force. The building was 250 feet away. A collapsing building would crush a human not explode them.
     
  19. Hannibal

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    Squeeze a grape hard between your fingers. Clap your hands down hard on a raw egg.
    Do they just drip or pop and squirt?

    In addition: with controlled demolition the charges are directed inward in order to cut the supports. They are not directed outward to blow the building into other buildings.
     
  20. Brother Jonathan

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    You are ignoring the evidence. People are not built like grapes or eggs. When people get crushed they get mangled. They do not explode into little pieces.

     
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    stop muddying the waters with facts!
     
  22. Brother Jonathan

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    Welcome back Kokomojojo.
     
  23. Hannibal

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    You haven't posted any. Opinion is not evidence.

    You're wrong about what happens to bodies being crushed. A human head is very much like an egg.

    Smash a watermelon with a sledge hammer. Does it just get mangled?
    What would happen to a skull hit with many times that same force?
     
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    The appearance of exploded body parts is sufficient evidence for NIST to have at least looked for explosive materials in the WTC dust.

    Human heads are not liquid centered.

    A human brain is nothing like watermelon meat.

    Mangled and crushed not exploded, pulverized, and disintegrated.
     
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    This is your opinion.
     

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