I cannot understand all the fighting over gay rights

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  1. little voice

    little voice New Member

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    I am a 83 year old straight man
    Can someone please explain to me How it affects me Or my children or grandchildren
    If gay people Get married
    And why elected officials spend time and money over this fight

    I do not think the human body was designed to do the things they do
    But as long as both parties like what they're doing why not let them do it
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Because a long time ago people said we don't like things that challenge our masculinity.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no problem what they do behind closed doors. But why do they want to flaunt their life style over everyone? Keep it to yourself. Have you ever watch the television show Glee? Beautiful music and dancing. But a third of the cast is either gay or plays gays.
     
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    little voice New Member

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    I had never heard of the show
    I like bob's burgers And family guy
    Maybe you should use your remote
     
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    Liberalis Well-Known Member

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    Existing is not flaunting, nor is being gay a lifestyle. The reality is that many people involved in musical theatre like that shown in Glee are gay. Why would the show lie and erase them from reality?

    What you want is for gays to disappear so you can pretend they don't exist.
     
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    little voice New Member

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    What two other people do to each other or with each other
    Can't be a threat to my masculinity
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about keeping there private lives to their self? I don't need to know about their sex life, that is personal.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what? You mention ONE SHOW where there are a few gay (or playing gay) characters!

    Do you realize how many shows are on TV that FLAUNTS heterosexual sexuality (and I mean. . .pretty hard core, unlike the occasional hugs or kisses between gay characters in Glee)?

    Guess what. . .if ONE THIRD of the cast is either gay or plays gays. . .that means that TWO THIRD of the cast "flaunts" heterosexual behavior!

    Get used to it. . .I personally am a lot more offended by very descriptive sexual behavior on TV (whether it be hetero or gay. . .but it is overwhelmingly hetero sex!), violence, and destruction than I am by two gay men hugging or even kissing, or two women holding hands!

    Get real!
     
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    So what gay person came up to you and gave you a graphic description of their sex life? Probably not a one. The problem you have with gay behavior is what is in your head about what it means to you, it has nothing to do with what real people do or don't do. You have a mental image of what you think they do, so where did that come from? Real people?, or did you watch gay porn? I've noticed people who tend to have such negative opinions of gay people also tend to have very filthy minds.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's because you are a secure, real man. My husband feels the same, as do my son and step son.

    And, I certainly do not feel that my femininity is threatened by lesbians!
     
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    As long as your standard is the same for straight couples. I don’t want to hear about what gay couples do in their room any more than I want to hear about what straight couples do in their room.

    But I also don’t expect a straight couple to keep their relationship a secret. If you want to have a picture of your significant other at your desk, ok. If you want to hold your SO’s hand in public or even give a little kiss goodbye in public, feel free. It is when you start holding homosexuals to a different standard that bigotry raises its head.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did a gay man ever forced you to listen to the intimate details of his sex life?

    Or do you consider the mere mention of the "male" name of his partner to be a display of his "private sex life?"
     
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    I think folks would be a whole lot more tolerant if the gays didn't try to ram it publicly in their faces. But they can't help themselves, instead of just going about their business and getting married while the straight folks ignore them, they just have to flaunt it. I don't care who ya are when someone tries to rub your nose in something, they're just asking for a fight, then the idiots wonder why they get one.
     
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    So, who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    It's pretty simple why elected officials spend time and money over this fight. Christians, and specifically, the more fundamentalist Christians.
     
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    It's not really about any kind of legitimate fight for "rights." It's just about having something to complain about. Like I keep saying, give these people whatever they're asking for and they'll find some new reason to claim to be oppressed tomorrow. I don't think most gay people actually want to get married to be perfectly honest with you. I think the only reason this is even a big national issue is because there are still some people who want to preserve the timeless traditional definition of marriage. If nobody cared, then nobody would be demanding gay marriage. Because it wouldn't be a crusade.
     
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    It's an issue because of denial of the legal rights that accompany marriage. Tax situations, estates, legal adoption, beneficiary designation, death benefits. On and on.
     
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    It wouldn't be so bad if liberals and gays weren't so dishonest in their approach. They claim that gays deserve equal protection under the law....they have that. Straight people aren't allowed to marry someone of the same sex either....

    There is also the assumption that homosexuality is somehow "normal". There is nothing that supports that. I just believe this issue could be resolved if there was an honest dialogue.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are partially correct!
    EVERY gay person obviously doesn't want to get married. . .just as every heterosexual person (or couple) want to get married. . .and it is obvious that younger people have less interest in marriage now than young people did even 20 years ago, and that a couple having a child without being married, and raising that child together is no big deal anymore. In fact, I have 6 nephews and nieces who are between the age of 24 and 33, and 4 of them have decided not to get married, but have children whom they are raising with their life partners (and, no. . .none of them are homosexuals!)

    But the fact that even gay people who have no interest in getting married are fighting for the legalization of SSM, and the fact that heterosexual couples who are already married (and some have been for over 42 years. . .as myself) also choose to fight for the legalization of SSM clearly demonstrate that it is a LOT LESS about "marriage" than it is about EQUAL RIGHT UNDER THE LAW, and not considering a portion of the population as "second rate citizens" because of their choice of partner!

    And I agree that, once gay marriage becomes legal across the US (and it will within the next 5 to 10 years), there will be a lot less talk about it, and a lot less reason to advocate for equal rights for gay people. . .since the goal will have been reached and, as you state so well, it will no longer be "a crusade!"

    So.. . .why delay the inevitable?
     
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    So you hate religious people? OK then.
     
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    I have never read any "honest dialogue" coming from you!
     
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    Gay people have equal rights.
     
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    No, that's just the argument they're using to rationalize their crusade. If nobody opposed them, they wouldn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about such benefits. It wouldn't be a big deal to them. It's only a big deal because somebody doesn't want them to have it. It's cat string theory. It's only fun while the string is moving. But once you drop the string, the cat gets bored and walks away.
     
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    Sure you have. You just hate the fact I am usually correct.
     
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    Please explain how are they flaunting it.
    They want to get married
    I don't think any gay person has asked anyone's permission accept the proper authorities
    That still does not explain how it affects me or my family
    Why public officials waste time and money in this fight
     

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