151 Years Ago Today – Republicans Freed the Slaves

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  1. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    I didnt refer to the crime rate, I referred to the victim rate, because you guys are doing a terrible job. Protecting life should be a priority of government. Murder was lower when republicans ran the cities. Detroit is a prime example.

    What are you doing for education? Fighting successful charter and voucher programs tooth and nail? That these parents wait in lines and lotteries to get their kids in? You know better then them though huh? Funding is highest in the world, that dog won't hunt anymore. What other excuses you have? How many more must wait?

    What are you doing for jobs? Sicking the unions on any successful business in your areas you can? Taxing them to death? Dictating wages? Barring the poor from starting their own small shops via burdensome regulations?

    Or just more dependency that hasn't reduced a luck of poverty since the war on poverty started 50 years ago? More poverty reduction in the 5 before then the 50 since but you will dodge this too and we are spending more then ever. In a "recovery"
     
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    Actually most of the "pro-equal rights" Republicans ...were Northern Republicans.

    Today, they are the minority and the GOP's prime region is the SOUTH, relying on those same Dixiecrat voters that Strom Thurmond and George Wallace rallied in their 1948 and 1968/72 Presidential bids.

    There's a reason the "white hands" ad, talking about "less qualified blacks taking jobs from whites" ran in the North Carolina Senate race in the 80s........and it's because the Party of Lincoln and Eisenhower....had become the Party of Thurmond, Lott, and Jesse Helms.
     
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    Along with the points you made, ask a Rightwinger WHY don't blacks vote Republican?

    Guaranteed...it'll be something insulting about blacks. Maybe as tame as "Because Democrats have fooled them".....which means they think black people are STUPID, i.e. an insult.

    or more blatent and demeaning like "Because the Democrats give them welfare goodies"....which means they think black people are LAZY and GREEDY, i.e. an insult.

    And thus show the REAL reason, the one the Right denies, why blacks don't want to "hang out" with Republicans and rightwingers.
     
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    No, the Nazis were the conservatives of their day. They were against the progression they saw in Germany.
     
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    How does a Rightwinger argue the Taliban are "progressives".....when it was Virginia Republicans passed a law saying that a woman should be forced by the Government to have an ultrasound probe shoved up her vagina???
     
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    I think they say progressive for anyone they don't agree with even if they're fellow conservatives. It's like a buzzword for them. They don't actually know what it means.
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    I don't think it does. (Why do YOU say that?)
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Lott isnt a racist. He was kicked out for a trivial thing that Nancy Pelosi did but received no flack for. After all, Grand Cyclops "Robert Byrd is the heart and soul of the Democratic Party". Thurmond and Helms switched. All the other Democrats stayed. Including Gore's daddy who stood with JFK and LBJ in blocking civil rights in 1957.

    Besides, your party is still racist. Laws that discriminate based on race are racist. You may think "but it they are racist in order to get certain groups of people more money and power!". Well, what racial discriminatory laws aren't designed that way?

    Wrong is wrong, even when the end intended would be good.

    Before you reply, I am going to need a year when the Republican platform was for less equality under the law then the left called for. Just one year please. Please dont dodge like every other leftist here. If you can't - just leave this argument be for now, and go back to the threads that focus on how much you are going to take from others by force and spend it as you see fit.
     
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    151 years ago today, Republicans "forgot" to free the slaves in the North.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Killing another human that is deemed a burden is totally leftist. They believe the individual should be sacrificed for the whole. It is in pretty much every economic policy argument you guys have.

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    Who passed the 13th Amendment? Who only signed it with a gun to their head?
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Perpetrated by democrats. Florida had one republican during the Jim Crow era in its legislature. One. All others had been chased out by the KKK. Being republican used to get you killed in this country you know. Blacks that didnt vote democrat were lynched. Who do you think they went after? Any black people? Or only the "uppity" kind. I believe progressive Woodrow Wilson used that term. He is the birth of a nation guy and birth of the income tax. As a leftist he has no qualms with taking from others what he didn't earn. To spend on a war that we got in because of his Anglophilea
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives fought to preserve slavery.

    Conservatives set up a system of Apartheid in The South for 100 years.

    Conservatives today seek to roll back protections for blacks, women, gays, etc.
     
  13. Johnny-C

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    Why the STUPID term, "democrat party"? (Shows your bias from ignorance, every time you use it.)

    More nonsense.
     
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    Amen to that!!
     
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    This isnt true. The guy who resurrected the KKK called himself "progressive", so did Margaret Sanger. And we all know what the ethnic genocide she tried to pull off. Social darwinism is the worst. Then there is that hero of the Progressive Democrats, Japanese interning FDR. Who was nothing like spend less then you take in as you build massive infrastructure, get the job done and set the people up for a big tax cut while you send in troops so Democrats dont block black kids from schools - Ike.

    Anyway, when it comes to racial discrimination under the law, you believe in it wholeheartedly. That is all you should need to know. Why is your brand of racism better then others of the past? Is it better then equality? If not, why not?

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    It annoys them, that is why.

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    Ask them what they have planned.
     
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    Listen buddy, I'm English, and even I know the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the Rebel states. It wasn't until the 13th amendment was introduced, in 1865, that slavery also became illegal in the Union states.
     
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    Discrimination was practiced in the United States by both white republicans and democrats

    Up until the 1960s

    And it was Abraham Lincoln that said due to the difference the races
    There's no way negroes could live alongside whites as equals
     
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    prove it with evidence.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Still, more equal then Democrats at the time. He wasnt the only Republican. Look up Thaddeus Stevens. Fremont, the first guy they ran who formed the party. You dont have a year where the Democrats didnt call for more racial inequality under the law. As far as opportunity, you lose there too. High crime neighborhoods, refusal to allow charters and vouchers - even when they have been shown to get better results then suburban schools - you lose on equality of opportunity too. Today. Lets get over the history lesson since the left wants to rewrite it anyway and they will. Lets talk today. The Democrats try "equality of outcome" cultural marxist stuff, but it is a massive failure. Less drop in poverty in the last 50 years then in the 5 before the war on poverty. Don't you think that is a problem?
     
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    Democrats’ History of Racism

    by B. Christopher Agee
    July 30, 2012

    Here’s a bit of American history guaranteed not to appear in any government-approved history book. The Democrat party has, throughout its existence, represented the bigotry and racism they seek to project onto Republicans.

    The informed readers of this article are likely familiar with the racist roots of the political party aptly portrayed by a jackass, but much of the general population, especially outspoken Democrats, are woefully ignorant of any such facts.

    Ask the nearest Democrat about Republicans and race and even the mayor of a substantial American city might just respond with, “They are racist.” (http://mynorthwest.com/194/588559/Boze-Tacoma-Mayor-responds-to-Republicans-are-racist-comment)

    In reference to their own party, Dems will likely say they led the fight for civil rights throughout the years, though a cursory review of the party will prove this assertion wrong. For instance, this was the party that established the Ku Klux Klan as its enforcement arm. Powerful Democrat politicians have appointed klansmen to high-ranking positions in American government for a century, yet have somehow convinced the vast majority of blacks that Republicans are the bad guys! (http://treesforlunch.blogspot.com/2012/04/on-racist-democrats-gun-control-and.html)

    The KKK was used to intimidate voters, black and white, into voting Democrat – or not voting at all. (http://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/2565)

    Through violence, property damage, rape, and murder, Democrats were able to secure a huge majority of the black vote comprised of those afraid to cast an alternate ballot. Disgustingly, they have somehow been able to maintain that death-grip on the African-American community to this day. (http://africanamericanconservatives.com/2010/08/13/kkk/)

    When these reprehensible strategies, though unquestionably effective, did not satiate their need to keep the black population down, Democrat-supported legislation such as Jim Crow laws made sure these minorities would remain second-class citizens even after the ratification of the 13th Amendment. There are plenty of examples of heralded Democrats, including Presidents LBJ and Truman, expressing disdain for blacks in their own words. (http://www.humanevents.com/2011/07/10/democrats-should-know-jim-crow-they-created-him/)
    (http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...of-their-racist-party-roots/question-1109801/)

    Republicans, thankfully, emerged as the pro-freedom, anti-slavery alternative to the juggernaut that was the Democrat party. Despite the fact that significantly more Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act than did Democrats, the party of the left has somehow hoodwinked much of the black community into thinking they are its savior.
    (http://www.humanevents.com/2006/07/05/racist-democrats-vs-colorblind-republicans/)
    (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/10/09/al_sharpton_gets_civil_rights_history_wrong)

    [Excerpt]

    Read more:
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/democrats-history-of-racism/

    You asked for references of truth about Democrats, their ideals and philosophy of racism through their inception by Andrew Jackson. If you have the audacity to read just this article it may open your eye to the truth and the propaganda lies told to you by the Party you idolize.

    BTW: Your byline image of John Wayne is indicative of your hypocrisy. You idolize a Republican who fought for the right, slavery and against racism, everything your ideology is against.
     
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    No, I mean the abject levels of racism which the Republican Party promotes and harbors within its ranks.
     
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    Can you show any logical reasoning in your statement?
     
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    http://www.socialstudieshelp.com/Lesson_68_Notes.htm
    http://www.shmoop.com/progressive-era-politics/woodrow-wilson.html

    You love your income tax right? He gave it to you. Also, he is a big ole racist. Even hates most white people.
     
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    Yes, the Republicans were an admirable party 150 years ago, dedicated to helping the poor and oppressed.

    What went wrong with them?
     
  25. little voice

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    If we talk about today
    lets talk about elected And party officials
    Do you really think the Republican Party would have nominated an African American to president
    I hope you notice African Americans hold many key positions within the democratic party
    Up until very recently unless you go back over 100 years
    The only African American members of Congress were democrats
     

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