Confirmed!!!

Not too long after Obama become president many of us claimed that he seemed to base his decisions on politics first. His decisions were based on what was good for Obama, and what was good for the democrats. To hell with what is actually good for the country.

IMO the new book out by Gates totally confirms this fact. It reveals the clear inside decisions were indeed made for political reasons. Oh and it exposes the incompetence of Biden and Hillary. It is just another reason why Hillary would be a lousey president!

 

it doesn't but keep repeating the noise machine nonsense.....they love the pub.

 

The left trying to spin Gates' book as portraying Obama, Hillary and Biden in a positive light is pretty amazing, but there are specific allegations in the book that Hillary and Biden are going to need to address in time.

 

Then point them out. I have read the experts have you?

 

If Hillary is to be appointed the next president there is nothing you or I can do about it. If so, the decision has already been made.

I think she would be the ideal person to be the next stooge in a long line of stooges.

 

Karma

What "experts" are you quoting? I would hazard a guess they are from the whitehouse spin committee, or the DNC.

 

There's been a quote from the book circulating, according to major news sources, that Gates was "shaken" when he heard Hillary say to Obama that her position on tactics in Iraq had been politically motivated. Did you really not hear about it?

 

All national level politicians running for the presidency (Left or Right) are automatically some sort of scum, because considering all the things they have to do, the under the table deals, and so forth and so on that they have to commit to in order to rise that high, they are all as bent as a used staple. The only meaningful standards by which to judge one's potential effectiveness as a president therefore are issues of politics, ideology, and a fundamental history of competence.

Now for Obama, simply being a member of the Democratic Party did not automatically make him a potentially useless president, and so I'll give him a pass on that one. Ideologically, however, he was mentored by a string of radical socialists and outright Marxists and by a racist Liberation Theology promoter by the name of "*******N America" Reverend Wright . . . and so that should have raised a few -- you know -- red flags in the fevered brains of even that clueless half of the Democratic Party's pool of citizen voters who got patented Obamagasmic leg tingles every time the First Term U.S. senator spoke on the 2008 campaign trail; which segues into the last point. As a first term U.S. senator who spent only 140 days actually attending to his senate duties before (confirmed by insiders) he abandoned them to begin preparing full time for his presidential bid, Barack simply did not have enough experience at the national level (and absolutely no history of leadership or management involvements) to possibly BE an effective president. Even half brain-dead Obama supporters should have comprehended that salient fact.

As for Hillary Clinton, unlike Obama she actually had sufficient experience and at least some dabblings in management and leadership activities prior to running for president in 2008 to at least qualify among minimal lines. Better, though, had she been a former governor. Anyway she was known to be tough as nails and yet willing to cross party lines as a senator in order to get things done. So, unlike Obama, she probably could have reached legitimate and respect-based compromises with the Right after becoming president. Ideologically, her history indicates that although definitely a liberal in sentiments she was no where near to being either an outright socialist nor Marxist -- unlike Obama.

Finally, we come down to her character. Urk! But still one does not have to actually like the personality of a president in order for the guy or gal to be an effective president of all the people. Would she have been such a president? I dunno; but I strongly suspect that she would have been a far better president than Obama has turned out to be . . . and so at least that would have been something.

 

complete BS

 

If they can spin ACA in a positive light they could do the same for Hitler or Satan herself.

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I know. Hillary and Biden's incompetence has been exposed for years.

 

so lemme get this straight, a man who has pandered to public opinion and earned a living doing that continues to do things which are politically expedient and that surprises people ??????

We knew what we were getting in 2008 yet people voted for him. This all on us. It's like getting mad at the fat kid who ate the last doughnut when it was put in front of him.

 

The only reason people voted for him was he looked black. Actually he is 50% white, 40% arab, and 10% black. It was purely a racist vote.

 

Hey Karma, good news! Obama gave another 85b out and you and people like you weren't powerful enough to get any access to it. Congratulations, another win for the people! The people loyal to Obama!

Speaking of Obama loyalists, did you see the lady in charge of the IRS investigation is a major Obama supporter? Gave like 10% of her yearly take home to his campaign. She must be totally unbiased and trustworthy. Go team left wing!

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All on you maybe, I didnt vote for the man.

 

All the book does is reinforce the opinions observant folk already held. Nothing BoBo did was illegal, just stupid, venal, political and inept.

 

Obama gave an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and to defend ALL of its people.

Obama did NOT fire Eric Holder when he stood before the American people and proclaimed that his justice dept would give deliberate differential justice based on RACE of those clearly breaking the law, because he felt that "His People" were more deserving.

Eric Holder's actions were blatantly Illegal. By extension, Obama's an accessory and co-conspirator to the crimes of Eric Holder. Both have violated both their oaths, the Constitution, and their duty to the American People.

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The left doesnt care if soldiers die for political gamesmanship. They just don't. If 10000 lived would have to be sacrificed to get her in office they would gladly shed them. She would in a heartbeat. It won't hurt her chances except with military moms. This is the truth.

 

Unfortunately, politicians do not pay the slightest attention to the Constitution...

 

Doing what is good for the country means he wouldn't be elected.

 

Barack Obama has been characterized as "an enigma rapped in a puzzle." Ryan Lizza of "The New Yorker" said it best " . . . Perhaps the greatest misconception about Barack Obama . . . is that he is some sort of anti-establishment revolutionary. Rather, every state of his political career has been marked by an eagerness to accommodate himself to existing institutions rather than tear them down or replace them . . . "

It's clear that both the "right" and "left" have had trouble processing Obama's institutionalism. The Obamaphobes have exaggerated his "liberal" instincts into "radicalism," ignoring the fact that a president who took advice from the likes of Bob Gates probably isn't a closet Marxist-Leninist. The "left" has been frustrated, again-and-again, by the abyss that exists between Obama's professed principles and the compromises that he's willing to accept, and some "liberals" have become convinced that he isn't one of them at all.

President Obama displays such a peculiar combination of traits as president that in a new book by Columbia law professor Philip Bobbitt about Niccolo Machiavelli called "The Garments of Court and Palace," convinces me that to "succeed," Obama has been "forced" to become a neo-Machiavellian.

Here's passage that Bobbitt quotes from "The Prince" --- " . . . A prince must sometimes practice the ways of beasts, he should choose from among them the fox and the lion, for while the lion cannot defend himself from traps, the fox cannot protect himself from wolves. It is therefore necessary to be a fox in order to recognize traps, and a lion in order to frighten wolves . . ." The way I see it, Obama does the fox thing pretty well. He recognizes traps and generally avoids them. But he needs more lion.

Let me leave you with the following thought --- It's pointed out in "Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary as War" that while serving as Defense Secretary, Bob Gates gave Obama high marks, saying privately in the summer of 2010 that the president was " . . . very thoughtful and analytical, but he {was} also quite decisive . . . " Gates adds that " . . . {he} had a similar approach to dealing with national security issues . . . " Or to put it another way, Obama is an ideologue and a pragmatist all at once.

 

Not an argument at all.

So, you think it is fine to play games with soldiers lives to win elections?

 

Well since he is not playing with peoples lives........its complete BS.

But dont worry, you will not be able to understand the second time around. You will act confused and pretend to not have a clue.........or you could prove me wrong by showing us that you are intelligent by understanding. Which will you do??? I know, but need you to supply the evidence that confrms my beliefs about you. Lol

 

But, but, but............the media is biased, right??? So you believe the media when it says that Gates was "shaken", but yet you don't believe the media when they report on something that you don't like??? The media is only biased when you want them to be, huh?

This is why we can't take conservatives seriously. They claim the media is biased, but then when conservatives spout of insane stats or numbers and the liberals ask them where they got those numbers..........they say, "the media." It just baffles the sane mind.

 

She was. I am talking about Hillary who makes war votes based on what will give her more power. Despicable and treasonous in my book. Good thinking for democrats.

 

Do you agree that election concerns should dictate military policy? This is why the left can't be taken seriously. You have no standards. All you care about is more power, more handouts, more of the failed policies of people who died long ago.

 

Not a chance. And I don't believe this idiocy, that the public has no say in the matter. Hillary by every single pundit, was supposed to be president in 2008, and Obama swept her aside like she was the rag doll she is. Don't give me this "it's already settle! Nothing you can do" crap.

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Well of course not. But the fact is politics is politics. That's how the government works. I'd love it, if it were not so, but it is. The last president to do what was best for the country, and not for politics, was Bush, and look what happened to him? The next person to step up after Bush, will think long and hard before doing what is best for national security over politics. There are simply too many stupid people that can vote.