What Happened to Democrats?

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  1. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    It appears the Democrats have moved to the right and become more like Republicans used to be!

    What I truly wonder is how full if s(*)(*)t people like you are who keep posting the crap about messiah and worship. Don't you have a rational thought of your own?
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    To be sure, Congress thwarted him on Gitmo, and Congress is the body that reauthorized the Patriot Act.

    Nonetheless, I don't expect facts to carry much weight with you.
     
  5. Kranes56

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    I know it's really funny. It's like they listened to Obama, and what he said he would do as president. Then they compared what he said, with his actions.
     
  6. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO! Yeah, a good bit of his "promises kept" merely required Obama to say that he was going to do something. As in, the promise was "kept" as soon as he made it. For instance, he said that he would work to persuade Europe to tighten restrictions on Iran. Just the fact that he said that meant that he had already "worked to persuade Europe". There was no way that this "promise" could ever be broken. The simple fact that he told reporters that he would "work to persuade Europe" to do something, counts as "working to persuade Europe."

    Then there are several "promises kept" that were nothing more than Obama complying with international treaties that predated his administration.

    Only a partisan sack-swinger would look at that list and not come away with the idea that it had been inflated with inconsequential nonsense.
     
  7. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To better illustrate what I'm talking about. Check out this "promise kept":

    Push for a college football playoff system.

    They marked it as "promise kept" because, and I quote, "As far as we can tell, Obama didn't twist the arms of NCAA officials, but he made at least four public statements between November 2008 and April 2009 that he thought college football needed a better way to determine its champion." Simply making the "promise" meant that it was "kept". It's an inflated softball list if ever there was one.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Why would you care since according to you he is doing what Repub wanted.
    Psssst, no one is worshiping President Obama, you have been drinking at the right-wing propaganda koolaid fountain too long.
     
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    A paraphrased quote from MSNBC's Chris Matthews, "Whenever Barack speaks I get these thrilling tingles up my thighs." Now what's sad about that is not necessarily that it came from the mouth of a MSNBC pundit but that NO leftwinger EVER condemned him for saying that. So, yeah, a great number of leftwingers acted as if Barack really was their Political Messiah back in 2008 and for almost all of 2009.

    In fact there are increasingly bitter and fanatical dead-ender Barack Obama supporters posting on political forums across this nation that act as if someone is insulting their personal deity every time someone dares to criticize Barack. So if it consistently looks, acts, and sounds like a worshiper of Barack Obama then it's definitely not JUST a emotionally disinterested Democratic Party voter defending a president.
     
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    lol.
    "He's a radical!" - No, he's really, really not. "Oh well anyone to the left of him doesn't count. That makes him an extreme leftist."

    Please.
     
  11. Whaler17

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    Yeah, I observed what I saw and heard what high profile Democrats have said. For example:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/18/barbara-walters-admits-we-thought-obama-was-next-m/

    "“He made so many promises,” she said, The Blaze reported. “We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole Obamacare or whatever you want to call it, that Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.” - Barbara Walters

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ts-we-thought-obama-was-next-m/#ixzz2rhEi7yfc
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter"

    Educate yourself before you claim to know something and maybe you wont look like such a moron in the future. Just trying to help you out.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So...who pressed to have the ability to kill American citizens with drone strikes? I suppose you have never heard of veto power.
     
  12. Whaler17

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    I enjoy proving myself right. That Obama would betray his constituents, as he obviously has done. But no sane person would actually carry through on his promises to appease leftists by forwarding their agenda, it is insane.

    pssst: Read it and weep:

    “He made so many promises,” she said, The Blaze reported. “We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole Obamacare or whatever you want to call it, that Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.” - Barbara Walters

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ts-we-thought-obama-was-next-m/#ixzz2rhEi7yfc
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    He wants to grow government to around 50% of GDP if you ask him. You think government earns half?
     
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    To understand the 21st Century Democrat mind you must go back to their own great Socialist demi-God, Frankie Roosevelt, continue through the "accomplishments" of his star pupil, Lyndon Johnson, and see the culmination in today's quintessential socialist autocrat, Barack Obama.

    They want a socialist welfare state, modeled almost exactly on George Orwell's "1984"! Go back and re-read the chapter that contains "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_and_Practice_of_Oligarchical_Collectivism

    THAT is exactly where this whole twisted socialist "Democrat" "progressive" mangling of the country is going. Right before your eyes....
     
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    I can see from your avatar that you have an affinity for clowns.
     
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    No, I didn't vote Democrat and in fact never have since I was 18 years old and stupid.
     
  17. Kranes56

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    Oh I'm laughing at something else. Like for example how it's not just how he says stuff, but in the end action is taken upon what he said what he wanted done. Whether you like it or not, Obama isn't an idiot and he made promises he knew he could keep. Whatever you think of him, you can't deny it was done.
     
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    Yeah, "Push for a college football playoff system." Real heady stuff there. I'm sure you're proud of your hero. It's pretty cool actually; you get to keep your idol and you only had to trade a few long protected civil rights for the privilege.
     
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    1. I hate Obama.
    2. No one is saying they're all going to be life or death situations, but he said he would do it, and it was done. Respect that basic fact.
     
  20. tomfoo13ry

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    Odd that you'd get so defensive over someone you "hate"...
     
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    Just as much when I hear someone trashing the right. If I want political change, then I have to stand up for both sides.
     
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    Why does the left have to lie to make a point? In 2009, the Obama Administration was looking into buying an under utilized prison in Illinois to house the GITMO prisoners. The problem was that the prison would cost the Federal Prison Bureau $150 Million, and another $50 Million to install fences and cameras that would be required. The White House asked the House Appropriations Committee to include the $200 Million in the 2010 Appropriations Bill, but Democrat Leadership refused. The bill was signed on December 19, and did not include the money. So, you need to thank Nancy Pelosi and he cronies for the lack of funding

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/us/politics/23gitmo.html?_r=0

    What a cop out. While in the Senate, Obama was a member of the Foreign Relations, and the Homeland Security and Government Affairs committees. So, he was familiar with the data that was being obtained, and the methods. Throughout his Presidential Campaign, he spoke out against Warrantless Phone Taps. Yet, he did not end them after being elected, and signed a bill to extend them in 2011. During the Bush Administration, the NSA could monitor any call coming in from overseas. Obama expanded the NSA's authority to include all calls. Even those between US Callers.

    I guess you missed the fact that Obama order a drone strike on Anwar Al-Awlaki. During that strike, there were actually four Americans killed. One was of them was Al-Awlaki's 16 year old son. If you look at the facts (not the Holder propaganda), Awlaki was nothing more then a recruiter for Al-Qaeda. Everyone that he recruited got caught. There were no US Citizen lives lost due to Awlaki, but Obama order the Drone strike. Since all four were American citizens, the drone strike was a violation of their Constitutional rights.

    Further, Eric Holder released a brief stating that such drone strikes could be carried out in the US without Judicial oversight.

    You would be right if Obama had limited those strikes to the tribal areas of Pakistan as Bush had done. But the drone strike on Al-Awlaki took place in Yemen. That was not the first strike in that country. More recently, Obama order a drone strike in Somalia. So, Obama has not limit the area of these strikes.
     
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    Yeah, if you need to rely on an idiot like Barbara Walters to make your point, I think you should be looking in the mirror for the moron, because your ice is thinner than your thoughts.

    Keep tryin' though, captain.
     
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    Uh-huh...So you think that because I called your list of "promises kept" a softball list that I was "trashing" someone? You're going to have to explain that one to me.
     
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    She is all yours lefty, not mine. YOU have to live with the fact that you are like her!!!
     

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