What does a "small government" look like?

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  1. 17thAndK

    17thAndK New Member

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    Less capable. More corrupt.
     
  2. 17thAndK

    17thAndK New Member

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    How touching. And devoid of thought. Your ramblings are as useless as those of some hemp-shirted desert-wandering sun-worshiper.
     
  3. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    But they still need to be accountable because the government exists to serve the people, not the other way around. People who say otherwise tend to think people should be commanded rather than served.

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    I'm sure you could figure out a way of transferring federal funds to meet state needs that it can't provide on its own.

    Please. The only difference is it's easier to catch your governor than it is to catch someone at the Pentagon.
     
  4. 17thAndK

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    Follow the bouncing ball. It is not necessary for them to agree with or even to be aware of each other for the lot of them to hold the same sort of addlepated opinions.

    The point is actually the counterpoint inherent in sociopaths trying to dictate the terms of a society they refuse to participate in to begin with.
     
  5. 17thAndK

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    Government exists to address the INTERESTS of the people, not their uninformed god-awful OPINIONS.

    Yeah, we call those "block grants", but they come with strings attached in that state governmnets often aren't capable of using the money as intended.

    That's not realistic. The spotlight shines brighter and brighter the higher up the ladder you go.
     
  6. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    That depends on who you're talking about. The President, the VP, SoS, close advisors, yeah. But most people in the Executive branch you don't even know the names of, yet they have an immense and very abusable amount of power.
     
  7. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    don't kid yourself, you set the tone in here

    arbitrage is huge, if you didn't know that, turn in your degree. You however have an even more fundamental lack of understanding, it is logically impossible for price to be the same in every currency, I have every expectation you can't understand that.


    bond markets
    ask the Russians and Chinese

    China will surpass us in real GDP if trends hold, they have already passed us in PPP. Size and stability of GDP is NOT the reason for dollar dominance now, it is the liquidity and depth of US bond markets and the transparency of the dollar on forex. You said it yourself, people with any sort of foundation should have known that...
     
  8. ErikBEggs

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    You sound like you are #teamChina

    :clapping:
     
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    Fat chance.


    "Small government" is best exemplified by a Somalia or a Zimbabwe. No "social welfare" in them puny administrative confections, no siree!
     
  10. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    you sound like you don't know reality
     
  11. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    I know the parrots are all team China.. and are rooting for China to control the world.

    China isn't even a considered a global superpower. You can stop praising a country that 99.9% of us would NEVER EVER want to live in.
     
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    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    you are such a dense poster- find and post where I praised China. Find and post, or shut up
     
  13. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    I don't cater to you.

    I tell it like it is. You seem quite fond of China.
     
  14. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    Yup, busted again, can't find anything can you. OK, as long as that's your standard of evidence, then you seem quite fond of North Korea.

    Kim Jong-un cheerleader you are, shows your intellect and your politics.
     
  15. 17thAndK

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    And then you drag it down.

    That would be degrees, Frankie. With an "s" on the end. And arbitrage used to be big. Electronics have made it small. Only the out-of-touch and internet suckers and trained seals have failed to notice that.

    No, it isn't. As any attempt to document that claim would soon enough reveal.

    All of your expectations here have crashed and burned. There is literally nothing left of your little toy-soldier world.

    Ah, the desperation of the extrapolator. There are worse arguments, but not many.

    No, they haven't. But why should reality matter.

    I know you fancy yourself some sort of player for hanging out at rumor-mongering, buzzword-slinging, scare-scenario websites, but here's an update -- that doesn't cut the mustard. That you couldn't draw the dots connectng size and stability to liquidity and transparency should have raised a red flag.

    Copying and pasting what I say is indeed your best strategy here.
     
  16. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    In truth both of these reflect myopic thinking as the United States is based upon the "dual sovereignty" where the States were sovereign over matters exclusive to the state and the federal government was sovereign over matters of all states and international affairs.

    The problem is that based upon political agendas these lines have become "fuzzy" to say the least.

    For example Republicans are wrong in believing that "equality in marriage" (e.g. same-sex marriage) or "abortion rights" should be left to the States because "equality" applies to All Americans and must be protected by the Federal government under the US Constitution (ref. "unenumerated Rights protected by the 9th Amendment and the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment).

    On the flip side are Democrats that support federal aid to education which is clearly a matter of state responsibility typically funded by state property and state sales and/or income taxes.

    Of note I would suggest that not only should the roles of government be divided based upon the dual sovereignty of state and federal government but that taxes should be also segregated. The federal government should basically rely on "income" taxes authorized by the 16th Amendment while the state taxation should basically rely on "consumption" taxes. I personally oppose state income taxation as well as state real estate taxes as real estate taxes are based upon arbitrary "values" of real estate. Real estate should be taxed based upon a sale tax at the time of purchase and not annual property taxes.

    One of the primary problems we have that leads to "big government" is when both the States and the Federal government are addressing the identical role and responsibility of government. It results in double taxation and double expenditures to accomplish the same role and responsibility of government.
     

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