What's the Christian argument against rock music?

What's the PR?

 

Did you post this from a time machine? Where are you now the 1950's?

 

Not really into them---did love some of the Clash--even with their leftist slant.

I don't disagree. I didn't discover the wonders of Classical until I was in college and was forced to listen in music studies. But if your child is listening to dark, unhealthy verses, or grabbing onto verses that demean people---women or races---its up to you as a parent to decide what YOUR child will be influenced by.

 

they were after the youth dollar. since youth (those not castrated by religion) were big on opposing parental mores, 'dark and menacing' was quite appealing. it was of it's time.

 

the clash were leftist? must have been some very low grade socialism, since my lefty radar didn't pick it up.

meanwhile, what do you mean by 'dark, unhealthy verses'? for me that would be overwrought sappy love songs which suggest life isn't worth living without "insert object of affection here". teens have enough to worry about without feeling it's legitimate to be tortured to almost suicidal ideation by failed romances. it would also be mainstream R&B type pop music, invariably performed by young females dressed as prostitutes. almost all Rap would qualify, but I do have respect for Eminem's outstandingly poetic work. bad commercial rock (like Kings Of Leon) also make the naughty list.

 

Aside from the fact it is made up? All the satanic talk about Led Zeppelin stemmed from Jimmy Page buying Alister Crowley's house. But a better test is to listen to or read their lyrics. They really only wrote three basic types of , mystical crap, crap about cars, and crap about women. The rest were rebadged blues standards

 

well said!

 

At what point did I say anything was wrong with it -

 

You said that some Christians are against dancing to rock music.

Why is that?

 

How is that all made up? Ray Cole knew led zeppelin and its members. When a groupie asked Jimmy Page if he sold his soul to the devil, he said, "jimmy went into a rage".

 

OZ...has a point.

Remember when some Christian Groups were burning KISS albums and telling everyone KISS was code for KNIGHTS IN SATAN'S SERVICE?

Gene Simmons the bass player and co-singer of KISS was quoted as saying...."I don't care what they do with the albums, burn them, run them over with cement trucks or throw them in a Volcano for all I care as LONG AS THEY BUY THEM FIRST!!! LOL!!!!

AboveAlpha

 

It was explained in the original post you responded too

 

I saw Black Sabbath in the same week both bands where touring in Sydney - Kiss as always was getting reamed over this santanic crap. After the opening number at the Sabbath show, Ronnie James Dio asked for the house lights to come up. He then addressed the audience. "Black Sabbath and another band here at the moment have been attacked over what we stand for. Remember this. We are entertainers, we put on a show, we make a record. All to entertain you. Everything after that is in your own head"

Crowd went nuts - and the band got on with it

 

Is there any evidence for that claim? Or is it just some stupid conspiracy theory?

 

And what was Robert Plant's opinion of Richard Cole

And Plant talking about Jimmy

 

http://www.snopes.com/music/hidden/kiss.asp

 

I am going to agree with you---love sad songs.....make me cry. How healthy is that? When I was young, my argument was yours....that we ought to worry about the wholesome sad songs that put you in a depression.

But as I get older---I realize that back in the day of my teenage "confusion" I was taking on and celebrating some values that weren't healthy for me. Now you can't tell a 17 year old not to listen to music of his/her taste but you can to some extent control what a 10, 12 or even 14 year old girl is listening too. And parents should.

And most Rap is absolutely off limits.

 

you certainly can't tell a 17 year old what not to listen to, but if they've been exposed to a wide enough variety of the 'good stuff' during their younger years they'll usually be quite discerning and make decent choices. it's like anything with 17 year olds - you can't suddenly impose rules and regulations on them at that age - the horse has already bolted.

 

Yep. I agree.

 

Are you a fan of rock/metal music?

 

You think I was kidding.

There are Christian Groups who STILL to this day think KISS stands for Knights in Satan's Service.

Check out THIS stupidity and there are MANY other Christian Links saying the same.

The blatant of the rock musician disregard for religion is manifested in the various occult practices, they practice free sex, homosexuality, and also used hallucinogues like LSD, marijuana, hashish, and masculine which serves as social catalysts. They also practice witchcraft, necromancy, necrophillo and even satan worship. These people came to be popular known as "Hippies".

The Hippie culture spread so fast that Rock groups began to adopt elements of their life-styles and even propagated them through their sough, though the Hippies became less known as the years rolled by, rock groups like Eagles, Kiss (Knight in Satan's Service) and MDC (Millions of Dawn Christians) began to assimilate much of the 'hippie culture.They even professed alliance to satanic cults. Some rock performers became numbers of the church of Satan in San Francisco.

There are two types of Western Music becoming increasingly popular in our land. Hard Rock and Heavy Rock. The former consists of incessant beats on the drums for protracted periods of time while the latter gets its name from the sharp metallic sound produced most rock groups seek to revolutionize the world with their gospel of free sex, drug abuse and rebellion.

Our youth may argue that mere listening to such music does not affect them. But the fact is it does. Dr. Adam Knieste a musicologist who studies the effects of music upon people states, "it is a powerful drug, music can poison you, lift your spirits, or make you sick without you knowing why! Rock fans may be also surprised to know that since the 1970s a new technique entered the field of music backward making.

A technique by which subliminal messages are reversed and these led into the main music track in such a way that when the tape is played on reverse a totally different message is conveyed. And what are these messages? Praise to the Satan, blasphemy to the Church and Christ and so on. James Yaroll, a noted Brain researcher holds that the human brain has the ability to scan. Pick up an translate any message in reverse, even at subliminal level, eventually incorporating them into the conscious sector of the brain automatically.

LINK...http://e-pao.net/epSubPageExtractor.asp?src=leisure.Rock_Concert.Go_for_Gospel_Music_by_Simon_Raomai

AboveAlpha

 

Rock music is sexual, therefore Christians hate it - as it makes them paranoid.

No sex equals disempowerment, and hence paranoia.

 

I'd just like to point out that almost all of the pioneers of rock and roll were Christians. Many of them led wild lives, but not a few were devout Christians too. Gospel music strongly influenced rock and roll.

For example Richard Wayne Penniman (Little Richard) has been a preacher.

And these guys: [video=youtube;BBNvJUPpzCw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNvJUPpzCw[/video]

 

When referring to me being "unorthodox", I was referring to the idea that I'm a very fundamentally reformed Christian, however I still like some "metal" music. Those bands I listed were the tip of the iceberg, and the fact that they're "dumbed down metal" (whatever that means) in your opinion, is of little consequence to me. What I'm talking about by saying I'm "past it at 45", is that I've grown up a little bit, and the "rage against the establishment", and "teenage angst", don't really apply to me much anymore. I'm not a teenager, and I don't "rage" against that which I'm a part of. However, I do have 2 teenage boys that may be just as "wild" as you.
While I'm currently enjoying "Bullet for my Valentine", I don't fool myself into thinking that I can somehow relate to the music, I just enjoy it. But, I'm sure you may also think that they are "dumbed down" as well. What do you mean by "dumbed down"?

 

I think this thread was created before I made an account here so I missed this.... bit this:

Is dead on.