The Tea Party of 1773 and the Tea Party of today

In his recent book, America the Beautiful, Dr. Ben Carson draws a parallel between the Boston Tea Party of 1773 and the modern Tea Party movement that began in 2009:

I believe this makes for a very good (and fair) comparison; and especially the part about how the Tea Partiers of the late eighteenth century were portrayed by their detractors as mere "extremist, fringe individuals."

Comments?

 

I am really glad the author was better at medicine than he is in history

 

one significant difference between the two is the Boston tea party was not only revolting against the British crown, but the east India trading company


it wasn't just a fight against the state, but their corporate overlords

 

The Boston Tea Party would be considered a terrorist act today.

 

Dr. Ben Carson is a genius by any measure.

He nailed it.

The TEA Party is still in it's early stages with over 50 people holding seats in the U.S. Congress, Senate, and Governorships... there are hundreds of others in state offices.

The TEA Party is fighting the extremism and the self serving values of the Establishment Republicans and ALL of the Democrats. The more and more people that get burned by Obamacare, Crony Capitalism, and with the coming economic collapse due to QE and insane spending, the TEA Party will grow even more powerful.

We need fiscal responsibility and currently, the TEA Party is the ONLY force with economic sense.

 

eh, not exactly. The British system is nothing like our system. The East India Trading company basically had a monopoly.

 

Just typing for the fun of it these days huh?

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Probably just vandalism.

 

No, the authors reading of history is very poor. Where as in the medical field he was responsible for some innovative medical procedures.

 

Taxcutter says:
The coercive power of the Crown enabled the abuses of the East India company. without that coercive power, the corporate people lost their monopolistic pricing power. Just like GE today.

 

Ben Carson's grasp of neurosurgery may be brilliant by all a accounts, but his grasp of American history is sorely lacking.

This claim, which is the core of his thesis is false:

That doesn't make him a liar, it just makes him ill informed on a subject he obviously doesn't know much about.

The people who high five this construct, knowing that it is false.....well, that's just willful ignorance.

 

There is one parallel between the Tea Pary of 1774 (he even got the date wrong), and the tea party of today, which Dr Carson chose not to point out. This isn't surprising, since his grasp of history is poor.

The Boston Tea Party, and others like it, that occurred up and down the colonies led to a revolution that was led by rich men, the only one of its kind in history.

The tea party of today was created by well heeled corporate and political operatives.

 

I would start here

http://www.amazon.com/George-Washingtons-War-Revolutionary-Presidency/dp/140220406X

 

Question.

How can we acheive this "fiscal responsibility" you speak of without harming individuals?


I think most of us agree that we need to cut spending. But the repubs refuse to allow ANY military cuts, and want ONLY social cuts. Democrats want a combination of spending cuts in ALL areas., ( military, socially, and also increased revenue )

In a **********s mind, the only way that we can achieve fiscal responsibility is by destroying social saftey nets. Thats my problem with them I suppose.

 

Hard to believe when the democrats proposed a 10 year 47 trillion dollar budget to Ryan's 10 year 40 trillion dollar budget. What were they cutting?

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That is the anti Tea Party propaganda created for the great unwashed.

 

TEA Party is 100% for Military cuts... the Republicans you speak of are not TEA Party. I am glad I could clear that up.

TEA Party is good with closing many foreign bases, stopping military redundant programs, stopping tank building for a military that doesn't want them, and for pulling out of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.... It's telling that you did not know this. I wonder how many other liberals are not aware?

As far as harming people... YOU and your LIBERAL COHORTS and ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS are doing that right now. In your selfish spending frenzies you are destroying the future for children in significant ways. You are harming people by every study every conducted with the ongoing unemployment benefits that go on for far too long. It is shown that people actually find work when the benefits dry up.

The problem with our Liberal friends is that they know so much that just isn't so. - Ronald Reagan.

 

So you are condemning corporate monopolies and praising the tea party in the same sentence?

 

The history is wrong, and you know it. But it's what you wanted to hear, so you cling to the myth.

You're probably one of the fools who defended Sarah Palin's claim that Paul Revere was warning the British.

As to the tea party being a corporate creation. That's been obvious since day one.

You aren't stupid enough to tell me that hundrebds of grass roots groups suddenly appeared spontaneously overnight, all calling themselves variations of the same thing, completely equipped with mailing lists ,printed signs, websites, 501c4 applications, busses and bank accounts, are you?

We know that Americans for Prosperity, and Club for Growth are Koch fronts.

We know that the Tea Party Expess was created by a GOP public relations firm in California (the same people who ran the Grey Davis recall).

There wasn't anything spontaneous about what happened in 2010. It was an orchestreted campaign to rebrand the far right and reenergize the Bush dead enders.

http://www.alternet.org/story/14859...lites_behind_the_right_wing's_latest_uprising

Why do you think they fight so hard to hide the sources of their money??????

 

Taxcutter says:
Anyone who asserts the Tea Party was a corporate creation is exhibition either monumental stupidity or arrant mendacity. The corporations were and are doing just fine under the current situation. Why would GE want to change a cozy setup?

 

Your weak attempt at dismissal without rebuttal withers in the face of the available evidence.

Evidently you are claiming that you are stupid enough to believe that in the space of 60 days, hundreds of different groups of right wingers all woke up at the same time and decided to call themselves tea partiers, incorprated themselves, printed literature, set up websites, opened offices.......

You really believe that?????

 

I love libs.
Boston Tea Party = Terrorist act
Boston Marathon Bomber (the guy who killed a child by riddling his little body with nails over every square inch of his body...a horrific way to die) They feel sorry for and put on the cover of teen beat terror heartthrob magazine and they buy up the issue to hang over their beds.

Everyone knows the Boston Tea Party was not about taxes, it was over a youtube video. (For the Obama supporters......that's a joke)

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I love libs.
Boston Tea Party = Terrorist act
Boston Marathon Bomber (the guy who killed a child by riddling his little body with nails over every square inch of his body...a horrific way to die) They feel sorry for and put on the cover of teen beat terror heartthrob magazine and they buy up the issue to hang over their beds.

Everyone knows the Boston Tea Party was not about taxes, it was over a youtube video. (For the Obama supporters......that's a joke)

 

And of course demanding that taxes are cut and stop helping the poor is not self serving

Conservative logic

 

Please feel free to elucidate...

 

The Tea Party: masquerading as a libertarian movement, without losing their big government views on morality and personal choices.

 

By whom?

By those, perhaps, who believe (quite fatuously) that the British crown held legitimate sovereignty over the colonies?