1 in 4 Americans doesn't know earth orbits sun.

I didn't claim you did say that. Go back and read!

No they are not! They are not saying or implying that "home schoolers" are terrorists. If that were the case, then my friends kids wouldn't have been able to fly to France!

They are saying that terrorists want to home school their children. Its one way of recruitment and it exhibits mistrust of the gov't.

 

You are saying homeschooler hate the government? Really.
Do you think at they want a better education for their kids that it is proven the public school system can't provide.
Typical stereotyping as usual from the progressives. Homeschoolers hate the government.
Again I ask you did they have drills against homeschoolers ? Yes or no?

 

Quote it if you can prove it.
I said progressives are shooting up schools which is proven

 

Nope, didn't say or imply that!
Some of them don't like the big bad gov't teaching their kids evolution. They would rather teach them creationism, which we know to be wrong. But hey, I guess indoctrination is ok even though we know creationism is worng.

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So you admit that I didn't claim you said that the people that love the government are attacking the government?

 

Were they having drills against those people just because they were home schooled? No! They were having those drills because terrorist, who hate the gov't, would rather pull their kids out of gov't schools. They hate the gov't and mistrust the gov't. Those terrorists are probably just going to create more terrorists.

And when you can prove me wrong, let me know! But I bet you run before you have a chance to admit it.

 

1 in 4 adults has IQ less than 80. For some reason we always forget that.

 

But by state standards they have to teach them evolution. Hello.
Where is the progressive outrage on Muslims and the growing increase of homeschooling? Afraid of the public system and wanting to teach their religious beliefs to their children?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/21/muslim-families-turn-to-home-schooling/?page=all

 

I have a feeling homeschooling and creationist science programs in the south are a culprit

 

To say that homeschoolers hate the government is progressive stereotyping as already noted.

This is only one example, but consider the Cimerelli family from California. The six girls received intensive musical training from their mother as they were home schooled. They made some videos including covers of One Direction, and they became world-wide YouTube stars. They are now paid for their music, and most of the girls are still in their teens. It is a value judgement on my part, but I don't think a public school would have given the level of success they now have.

Another example, is Macy Kate who just turned fifteen. She and her band mates also don't attend public school. They have tutors and attend virtual high school.

Home school doesn't work for every one, but it is a useful alternative to public schools.

 

Tests have shown that the dumbest people by far are the inner city minorities, the democrats base.

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you have a feeling, but no evidence, typical in the way the left forms their political beliefs.... Homeschoolers are only 2% of children, it is mathematically impossible for them to grow up into 25% of all adults.

 

Just enough evolution(which they still attribute to a god setting into motion - which is unfounded in science and biology) to pass a test.

But this is off topic. Can you prove that home schoolers are labelled terrorists by the DHS simply because they are home schooled? How did my friends children fly to France last year if they were labelled a terrorist?

I bet the only evidence you can provide is what you THINK is proof, but its really not. It will not prove that the US had a drill just because they were home schooled. But it will prove that the US had a drill because terrorists(who hate the govt) are willing to pull their children out of gov't schools. These terrorists could be teaching children how to be terrorists!

 

1st I listed two possible contributors.
2nd I said "a culprit" insinuating they are contributing factors, not sole factors.
3rd homeschooled children today do not reflect todays adult population. apples and oranges

so save your caveman and math for the preschoolers.

 

I have no problem with 'government' schools in fact it should be mandated that all elected officials up to and including the President send their children to one. NO more private schools allowed for our elected rulers. If it means more security at that school well that's what will have to happen.

Until then get 'bent' on calling out home schoolers....

 

Some do. Those schools are often among the best in the world, unsurprisingly!! The Bronx High School of Science for example has graduated 8 nobel prize winners, and 7 nobel prize winners in physics alone. That is more than all American private and home schooled kids combined, from one public school.

They just so happen to routinely have about 40,000 applicants per year and only accept about 1,000. When you can be that selective, it is entirely unsurprising that it would achieve those sorts of results. They get their pick of the elite young people of the largest city in the country. Most private schools don't have quite that luxury, but most DO get to choose who they admit and can easily expel underperforming students. Regular public schools don't get that luxury!!

Also, much of the failure of all education is down to poverty. Private schools with no admission standards in poor neighborhoods seriously underperform wealthy suburban public schools. The best predictors of educational achievement are the education of the mother and the socioeconomic background of the child. Public vs private is not significant causal factors.

Now having offered some context and undermined the nonsensical notion that private schools are somehow inherently better, I have to say that public schools in general are TERRIBLE!! The average private school as well. That is not because of "socialism" as some have claimed in this thread. In fact the very opposite is true. It is because of capitalism and the state.

Public schools are NOT training kids to be intelligent, thoughtful, informed, and creative individuals. They are training them to be cogs in the capitalist system. The models our schools most resemble are prisons and factories. You still see that factory model at work so very much today. Churning out good capitalist producers, who are incapable of doing much more than being minor cogs in a system. What are we trained to actually do in most schools? It certainly IS NOT to think critically about the world around us. The material is constantly fluctuating, but the key message never changes. The things that are reinforced ever single day are that kids should sit in one place quietly, do their work, not only do their work but do it on a deadline, obey authority, pledge allegiance to the flag, etc. That is what we are training our children to be. to be docile citizens and to produce for their capitalist bosses. Learning to obey authority teaches kids to obey the state and their capitalist bosses. Learning to sit quietly and work teaches them to be good workers. The same for doing work on a deadline. There are of course alternative models, but they are scarce and often underfunded and mocked by wider public (very often by the homeschool and private school crowd).

We should actually encourage our children to challenge authority, think for themselves, be critical thinkers, learn about what they find interesting, etc. That will never happen though, because the system depends on having uneducated voters and a vast hoard of semi-educated workers to drive the capitalist machine. Not everyone can be the CEO, so training everyone like they are going to be simply wouldn't work, because then you would have a lot of overeducated and overqualified burger-flippers. Those people would cause problems.

 

And progressive terrorist could be building Lego homes. That's not what they are training for. It was their explanation of their training. Not mine.
If they would have been having a drill for progressive school shooters the left would have been up in arms. Yet most of the recent shooters were progressive or came from a progressive family. So why pick homeschoolers? I ask you. Wouldn't the recent trend shows that the progressive shooter is more likely.

 

I assume you're in America? Your public schools are famous all around the world but for the wrong reasons although I must admit I didn't think it was that bad.

Your public school system looks like it is desperate for serious reform, maybe not so much the education itself but the students. It looks like you need to work more on behavior and discipline of the students, your schools are more like prisons with police and metal detectors. God knows how one could learn in an environment like that.

 

Well, How racist of you to notice....
And how do you think the people you'd find at the faculty lounge at Harvard vote?
Versus say how the Klan votes?
You know, if you were playing the stupid conclusion game......

 

And pray tell us how England is so much better? When the youth is throwing rock's at Prince Charles car?

It wouldn't happen in America

 

Again, the only evidence you provided doesn't prove your case. Those drills were not done just because they were home schooled. Home schoolers are not considered terrorists just because they are home schooled.

If home schoolers were considered terrorists, then my friends children wouldn't have been able to visit France last year. This is how I KNOW you are wrong. Its just your inability to be able to accept the FACT and have them support your beliefs.

 

I'll save the math for people who actually understand that you cannot 'influence' an adult who didn't go to homeschool, with one who did. You form opinions while knowing nothing

http://www.ontariohomeschool.org/studyHSadults.html

http://www.usnews.com/education/hig...12/06/01/home-schooled-teens-ripe-for-college

 

So you are saying possible terrorist can't travel?
Explain the Boston Bombers

 

how racist of you to bring up racism, I was simply pointing out the known data which we all know is true but only some of us are honest about it

 

(CNSNews.com) -- David Duke, a former grand wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, has joined(*)President Barack Obama, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in expressing support for the Occupy Wall Street movement, whose protests have been marked by anti-Semitism. - See more at: http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/f...upy-wall-street-movement#sthash.pzhzW52H.dpuf

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Lol the klan supported ows.

 

Perhaps you can cite the study you were quoting?
You weren't disputing that the GOP cleans up in the Earth Centric Universe crowd, right?
The GOP also does very well with Creationists, don't they?
And they do extremely well with Global Warming Deniers, a special kind of sub group.....don't they?

So why do you think that most PhDs vote Democratic?

 

I know four of these people Bachmann, Palin, Cruz, and Lee.