Russia planing for WW#3?

Very tough people, those Russians.

Putin doesn't mess around.

 

I give him credit for having integrity and not bowing down to the West. If he did, Russia would have fallen apart, which would have been just the way Germany, Poland, and some other nations would want her.

 

It troubles me that European brethren cannot coalesce in the face of an almost suicidal pact of destruction and extinction.

 

Russia has never in it's history been a center of culture and enlightenment....an isolated back water, they skipped the Age of Reason, completely missed the industrial revolution, and went straight to Communist revolution. They have always been paranoid and xenophobic.......but maybe we should send them flowers for trying so hard.

 

Putin has no integrity.

Putin uses a network of former KGB agents as a Russian Mob and Putin has his hands in everything from Drug Smuggling to Illegal Arms sales and is step by step eroding the freedoms of the Russian People.

AboveAlpha

 

You sell the glorious Russian people short, my friend. Have been around much longer and haven't had the security of oceanic isolation.

Descendants of the fearless and heroic Vikings, these noble people fended off the most fearsome of land military machines (the Mongols).

Remaining feudalistic later than their Western counterparts, history, given the state of contemporary Western society, has perhaps proven their course the most judicious.

The infernal stain of Communism, so pervasive today in the US under Obama, was a blight which contaminated many a state. A malaise of which even a noble and staunch polity of the such as Russia was not immune.

Peter The Great, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky and Catherine the Great provide more "enlightenment" than most contemporary provinces (the African Continent) have realized to date.

Europe's savior? Time will tell.

 

The Greeks are no brighter then you. When was the last time they invented something worth mentioning? Or are you talking about their blood leaching medicine days? Also dumb.

 

Also those nations were against it as evidenced by the fact they had to be conquered and couldn't wait to jump ship. If you like communism so much, go be a commie. But don't be a Stalinist denier, do you deny the holocaust too?

 

The West loves to make themselves the advocates of what is right and what is wrong, but then so do the Russians. They see every evil political system as having come from the West: Communism, Nazism, etc.

 

Did you understand anything I wrote?

 

Well uhhh, the Paps test among others.

 

Well either you are right, or you are wrong. If you are wrong, then what you assume about Putin is a reflection of you and what you would be doing if you were in his position. Frankly I think you're wrong, which doesn't say much for you now does it?

 

I am not even close to being wrong as far as Putin is concerned.

AboveAlpha

 

See now I know Putin differently. I know he was close to the Elder Ephraim of the Vatopedi Monastery in Mount Athos, and that his spiritual father now is the Archimandrite Tikhon of Russia, and they are not exactly the kind of people who will give him a green light to smuggle drugs and to sell arms illegally. Uhhh! Wasn't Putin the one complaining to the U.S. a few years back, about the drugs coming into Russia from Afghanistan?

 

Yes Putin did complain and then his network distributed such drugs.

AboveAlpha

 

No different than the CIA ... This is a silly conversation.

 

That sounds like Putin-Bashing! I wonder how you know all this stuff about him?

 

I didn't check out Keegstra. He seems to be a little fish. Zundel on the other hand is known internationally and went to prison in Canada as well as in Germany.
I could not find anything about him calling for violence...nothing at all.
But since you have seen everything personally with your own eyes, I guess I better believe what you say!!

 

If that was the case, then why are the drugs going into Russia, wouldn't they be going elsewhere? Besides what are the Russians doing in Afghanistan? I thought they left a long time ago?

 

Sorry I don't buy it. You are capable of finding Zundel on the internet but not what he did? Lol. Do you want me now to provide you a whole bunch of sites because I am to believe you can not find them? Lol you can find his name on the internet but not any info about what he did.Lol. Right.

You mention Keegstra's name and he seems a small fish to you but you never looked him up?

Well if you never looked him up how do you know his name and how do you know he's a small fish then?

Lol want to keep posing as being ignorant? really?

Well if as you say you don't believe me, why didn't you go read for yourself? Why come back and ask me if as you believe, you should not believe me?

Which is it?

As for Keegstra like Zundel nothing is stopping you from reading their cases which are public domain. Don't pretend you can't find them.

R. v. Zundel, [1992] 2 S.C.R. 731 (1992)

R. v. Keegstra [1990] 3 S.C.R. 697

http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/zundel.html?xpicked=2&item=zundel

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/conv1097.html

http://www.nizkor.com/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/


Stop playing the ignorant but innocent. card with me. Ignorance posed as innocence is a waste of both our intelligences.





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How do you think? He reads public domain.

This playing the innocent-ignorant card is pointless.

No one is stopping you from finding out. Go look.

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=100&story_id=10067

http://www.scribd.com/doc/39932718/Corruption-and-Organised-Crime-in-Putin-s-Russia

http://rusmafiozi-eng.blogspot.ca/2011/04/whistle-blower-links-putin-to-organized.html

http://www.fas.org/news/russia/2000/russia/part07.htm

http://www.pauldavisoncrime.com/2012/02/vladimir-putin-godfather-of-mafia-clan.html


Yah yah I know. You couldn't find the above when you punched in the name Putin on yahoo.

 

Because it is part of my JOB to know such things.

Just as it was my JOB to learn everything there was to know about Soviet Premier Yuri Andropov....the at one time dying and delusional Soviet Leader who at one point was so sick mentally and Andropov had confided in a few of his long time aids that HE would be the one to destroy both NATO and the United States the KGB Agent's that were in East Berlin were walking right up to us and saying...."I think we BOTH have a problem!"

AboveAlpha

 

Alright then, let's see what you got there:

http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/...=2&item=zundel
You are browsing the ADL website.

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/conv1097.html
The Nizkor Project (Hebrew: נִזְכּוֹר‎ we will remember) is an Internet-based project run by B'nai Brith Canada which is dedicated to countering Holocaust denial.

http://www.nizkor.com/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/
This one starts with: "Mr. Zuendel,
My name is Jamie McCarthy. I am co-webmaster of the Nizkor web site, <http://www.almanac.bc.ca/>. As I imagine you know by now, Nizkor is dedicated to the refutation of the nonsense that is Holocaust-denial.

They of course tell you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!!
My foot! You don't go to the "victim" for the truth, neither to the perpetrator. You find yourself a neutral, unbiased source.
Like this one here from the International Red Cross:
http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm
Excerpts:
....
No Evidence Of Genocide
....
Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies". By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable.
....
In Slovakia, for example, where Eichmann's assistant Dieter Wisliceny was in charge, the Report states that "A large proportion of the Jewish minority had permission to stay in the country, and at certain periods Slovakia was looked upon as a comparative haven of refuge for Jews, especially for those coming from Poland.

Well, I hope you will read it. I just did for the first time.
But our dispute was not the holocaust itself, but WHAT Zundel had said. You insist he publicly called for violence against the Jews.
I said that is not true as I can't believe it.
That particular issue we will have to leave unsolved, IF you can't provide the proof to your statement.

 

Russia is small fish compared to even China, let alone the US. A resurgent Russia should be watched closely, but time being, they can hardly wage war with even their small neighbors.

 

I googled:
http://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-russians/leaders/yury-andropov/
Andropov was chosen by the Communist Party Central Committee to succeed Brezhnev as General Secretary on November 12, 1982, scarcely two days after Brezhnev’s death.
He consolidated his power by becoming chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet (effectively the president) on June 16, 1983.

Ill health overtook Yuri Andropov by August 1983, and thereafter he was never seen again in public. After several months of failing health, Andropov died of kidney failure in February 1984. He was succeeded by his former rival, Konstantin Chernenko.

Do you mean to tell me that you were already a grown-up at that time and had a JOB involving spying or investigating or collaborating with the KGB agents in East-Berlin?
Please, elaborate a little, so I actually understand your fantastic story.